# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5902 "2025-06-17T09:07:18Z")

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Is it just me or does the “crowd” in the background look a little “enhanced” in the DoD picture? And the sky surprisingly blue?

Here’s another photo from the day.

[![](https://www.toledoblade.com/image/2025/06/15/1140x_a10-7_cTC/Trump-Miltary-Parade-1.jpg) ](https://www.toledoblade.com/image/2025/06/15/1140x_a10-7_cTC/Trump-Miltary-Parade-1.jpg)

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5903 "2025-06-17T09:45:58Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Is it just me or does the “crowd” in the background look a little “enhanced” in the DoD picture? And the sky surprisingly blue?

I’m pretty sure that’s not a picture from the parade. Just some photo they found to make Trump feel good. And convince MAGAs that it wasn’t a bust.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5904 "2025-06-17T11:43:16Z")

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Given recent aviation events in that area, it strikes me as incredibly irresponsible to have a number of helicopters in the air at the same time.

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**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5905 "2025-06-17T11:45:08Z")

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Maybe it was to attract the kind of crowd who go to NASCAR races for the crashes.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5906 "2025-06-17T11:46:50Z")

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I can’t argue against the current administration being a wreck, a train wreck.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5907 "2025-06-17T12:51:55Z")

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To be fair, I heard on the radio that they closed Reagan for the parade.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 12:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5908 "2025-06-17T12:53:55Z")

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Wait, are ICE supposed to round up people from farms and hotels or not? The White House is turning into the Waffle House (I didn’t come up with this, but it’s great).

[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-reverses-guidance-pausing-ice-raids-farms-hotels-restaurants-wapo-reports-2025-06-17/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-reverses-guidance-pausing-ice-raids-farms-hotels-restaurants-wapo-reports-2025-06-17/)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5909 "2025-06-17T13:19:48Z")

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Waffle House is next.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5910 "2025-06-17T14:02:32Z")

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They’re backpedaling from enforcement in rural areas because that’s where MAGA votes are.

Cities are being targeted because that’s where Democratic opposition is strongest.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5911 "2025-06-17T14:10:26Z")

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And that is the civil war the magaflatearthers want and have been orgiastically fantasizing about.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5912 "2025-06-17T14:29:23Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Do we have any indication of how Trump feels about his parade’s poor attendance and imprecision in marching?

I’m expecting any moment an Executive Order mandating the creation of a mounted lancer unit, which will be equipped with gold-plated plumed helmets. And capes.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5913 "2025-06-17T14:58:26Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > So, I spoke to Charlotte Clymer, an activist and DC-based writer, who covered the topic in her [Substack](https://charlotteclymer.substack.com/p/the-worst-military-parade-ive-ever) “Charlotte’s Web Thoughts.” She served in the US Army from 2005–2012, including three years in the 3rd US Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard).
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> > As for why we saw what we saw, she said, "I don’t think this was a protest against Trump, or anything adjacent to anti-fascism or concern with how the government is operating. I don’t think it had anything to do with that. **I think this is just because they were treated very poorly and they didn’t care. I think the soldiers who were misstepping during the parade — there were a lot of them — were just tired, annoyed, probably to some extent angry, and they just did not give enough of a shit to march to a high standard of excellence."**

My underlining. The bolded section is Monty’s.

Why did Charlotte chicken out in her comments? If the soldiers were “tired, annoyed, and angry,” then WHY? And why were none of their supervisors holding them to a “high standard of excellence” **in this particularly important parade??** 🤨

I don’t know who this writer is, but what was she afraid to come out and say? The snippet says she’s an “activist” – so why the wimpy comment?

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5914 "2025-06-17T15:05:20Z")

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I want to severely beat around the head and neck the copy editor who let this headline through:

> US reverses guidance pausing ICE raids on farms, hotels and restaurants, WaPo reports.

Though I know that the copy editor probably isn’t human.

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5915 "2025-06-17T17:26:30Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I don’t know who this writer is, but what was she afraid to come out and say? The snippet says she’s an “activist” – so why the wimpy comment?

I suspect it is because she doesn’t _know_. She is projecting how she would have felt in the same circumstance. It’s perfectly valid. I would have felt exactly the sme way, and in fact did at a couple of parades I ws required to attend.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5916 "2025-06-17T17:30:06Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> And why were none of their supervisors holding them to a “high standard of excellence” **in this particularly important parade??** 🤨

How would they do that - threaten them? With what? I doubt recruitment and re-enlistment numbers are good enough these days that good soldiers can be cashiered for lackluster marching.

And how do we know that their supervisors didn’t feel the same way?

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5917 "2025-06-17T17:37:32Z")

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That’s what I thought also.

1. The superiors felt the same way.
2. They didn’t notice.
3. The troops involved will get lots of remedial practice in the upcoming weeks.

D) All of the above.

Been there and done that.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5918 "2025-06-17T17:38:09Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> And how do we know that their supervisors didn’t feel the same way?

Just using this as a starting point.

All the doomsayers here (and elsewhere) always say the military is 100+% MAGA, supporting everything Dear Leader says. My limited experience with active and recently serving is more like 50-60%. But I have no idea what reality is.

The fact of the sloppy marching (which even I could see) combined with lack of order and discipline evident coming from the officers and noncoms, and add a bit of Fortunate Son trolling, and I no longer know what to believe!

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Cross posting from P&E, figure people would need an appropriate venue for venting. Another Democratic politician has been detained/arrested by ICE outside of an immigration hearing. Between Noem’s statements about “liberating” LA, Trump saying they’re specifically going after large cities and now this I wonder if ICE has received updated orders regarding meddlesome Democrats…

> **[Brad Lander, NYC comptroller and mayoral candidate, is arrested outside...](https://apnews.com/article/brad-lander-nyc-immigration-court-arrest-6ed341297efab31a08a14421674d8ed8)**
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> New York City comptroller and Democratic mayoral candidate Brad Lander has been arrested at a federal building in Manhattan after he linked arms with a person that authorities were attempting to detain.

> A reporter with The Associated Press witnessed Lander’s arrest at a federal building in Manhattan. The person Lander was walking out of the courtroom was also arrested.

> Lander had spent the morning observing immigration court hearings and told an AP reporter that he was there to “accompany” some immigrants out of the building.

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> [@Red\_Wiggler](#):
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> They’re backpedaling from enforcement in rural areas because that’s where MAGA votes are.

Except, in spite of the ambiguous headline, they are backpedaling from the backpedaling, and are now resuming the enforcement on agriculture and hotels.

I am wondering if and when the crops in the fields go unpicked and the prices of produce will skyrocket. Or maybe the raids will resume after the tomatoes and lettuce have been harvested and shipped.

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**Post date:** [June 17, 2025, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/5921 "2025-06-17T17:52:50Z")

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_IF_ it was a photo op it’s a good one. I 99% think it’s real, but these days…

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