# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 298
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6002 "2025-06-19T19:07:56Z")
Isreal is playing him like a cheap fiddle. Meanwhile, the press is making him out to be some sort of brain-trust “weighing his options” and “reviewing plans”. BULLSHIT! He’s thinking about Hamberders and flag poles. He doesn’t have a fucking clue what is going on in the world and he’s gonna get a lot of people killed. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6003 "2025-06-19T19:18:15Z")
Trump undoubtedly has no idea how much of a joke his perpetual “in two weeks” promises have become. They won’t mention it on Fox News, nobody on his staff will tell him, and it’s not like he watches late night comedy. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6004 "2025-06-19T19:27:38Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > . I dunno if they use TNT or whatever, yet their explosive power is akin to nukes. Not really. They generally only have about a ton of high explosive as compared to thousands of tons of explosive power for nukes. It’s just that by penetrating deep into the earth before they explode, their shock wave couples to and travels though the earth, as opposed to a surface blast which will coupled to the air which bounces off the surface of the earth. You might be thinking of something like the [MOAB](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-43/B_MOAB) which can be used to take out low lying tunnels but probably not hardened targets deep underground. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6005 "2025-06-19T20:01:16Z")
If the deeply-buried Iranian nuclear-development site could be destroyed by airstrikes, Dubya would have done it years ago, or Trump in his first term. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6006 "2025-06-19T20:18:37Z")
It would be pretty funny, in a bad way, if trump tried to bunker bust the site, and failed. Either the planes all get shot down, or the bomb just doesn’t have the size, the thrust, the penetrating power to get in there and get the job done. Just a limp fizzle. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6007 "2025-06-19T20:25:43Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And that’s enough of an update for today. No offense intended, but the word _relentless_ tends to spring to my mind when your posts show up in this thread. Also _exhausting_. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6008 "2025-06-19T20:26:03Z")
ISWYDT 😀😜. Bravo. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6009 "2025-06-19T20:37:50Z")
How could they _possibly_ have foreseen she’d do terrible things? 🙄 > **[Some Democratic senators regret voting to confirm Kristi Noem as DHS secretary](https://www.aol.com/news/democratic-senators-regret-voting-confirm-212355699.html)** > > Some of the seven Democrats who voted for Noem say they'd now oppose her in the wake of Trump's aggressive deportation plans and last week's incident involving Sen. Alex Padilla. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6010 "2025-06-19T20:40:30Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Just a limp fizzle. Even so, there will be a little mushroom cloud. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6011 "2025-06-19T20:53:57Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Even so, there will be a little mushroom Every time I see that commercial for the Ryze coffee with the little mushroom dude, I think, “is that what Stormy Daniels was talking about?” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6012 "2025-06-19T21:57:49Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > limp fizzle Fred Durst parody band! ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6013 "2025-06-19T22:01:52Z")
But isn’t he his own parody? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6014 "2025-06-19T23:10:08Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > he’s gonna get a lot of people killed He already has e.g. the USAID debacle. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6015 "2025-06-20T00:00:04Z")
Not to mention the disastrous COVID-19 response in the United States. Not to mention the inane decision to move the United States embassy to Jerusalem. Not to mention… How many of his policies, to the extent he even _has_ any, do not necessitate someone’s death because of his incompetence, ignorance, ego, corruption, and stupidity? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6016 "2025-06-20T00:12:17Z")
All true. I just went for the low-hanging fruit. I can understand living in a bubble – I’m kind of in one myself – but what kind of bubble do you have to be in to miss concluding, “That boy ain’t right in the head?” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6017 "2025-06-20T03:59:02Z")
[The felon caught a temporary break.](https://www.aol.com/appeals-court-lets-trump-keep-024021943.html) > [@](#): > > LOS ANGELES (AP) — An appeals court on Thursday allowed President [Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/people/donald-trump/) to keep control of National Guard troops he deployed to Los Angeles following protests over immigration raids. > > The decision halts a ruling from a lower court judge who found Trump acted illegally when he activated the soldiers over opposition from California Gov. Gavin Newsom. > > The deployment was the first by a president of a state National Guard without the governor’s permission since 1965. > > In its decision, a [three-judge panel](https://apnews.com/article/immigration-national-guard-california-lawsuit-trump-protests-f60fc70db5e389cfa7655884ffe2b3fc) on the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously concluded it was likely Trump lawfully exercised his authority in federalizing control of the guard. > > It said that while presidents don’t have unfettered power to seize control of a state’s guard, the Trump administration had presented enough evidence to show it had a defensible rationale for doing so, citing violent acts by protesters. > > “The undisputed facts demonstrate that before the deployment of the National Guard, protesters ‘pinned down’ several federal officers and threw ‘concrete chunks, bottles of liquid, and other objects’ at the officers. Protesters also damaged federal buildings and caused the closure of at least one federal building. And a federal van was attacked by protesters who smashed in the van’s windows," [the court wrote](https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/06/19/25-3727.pdf). "The federal government’s interest in preventing incidents like these is significant.” > > It also found that even if the federal government failed to notify the governor of California before federalizing the National Guard as required by law, Newsom had no power to veto the president’s order. [Although I’m a San Francisco Giants fan, today I’m rooting for the Dodgers!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/federal-agents-denied-entry-dodger-180703698.html) > [@](#): > > Federal immigration agents in a line of unmarked white vans and SUVs attempted to enter the parking lots of Dodger Stadium on Thursday morning, sparking a wave of speculation online about potential immigration enforcement at the ballpark. > > But, according to [Dodgers](https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers) officials, the agents were denied entry to the grounds. > > In photos posted on social media Thursday, a procession of vehicles appeared to attempt to enter Dodger Stadium through the ballpark’s main Sunset Gate off Vin Scully Avenue around 8 a.m. However, they were prevented from passing through a security checkpoint leading to the parking lot. [Russia tries explaining reality to the felon.](https://www.aol.com/russia-warns-world-millimeters-away-075215262.html) > [@](#): > > A U.S. attack on Iran, which President Donald Trump is reportedly preparing for the possibility of, would “radically destabilize the entire situation,” warned Russia’s deputy foreign minister, as the war between Israel and Iran continues to escalate. > > Sergei Ryabkov [told](https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/russia-warns-us-not-help-israel-militarily-against-iran-2025-06-18/) Interfax news agency on Wednesday that Russia has advised the U.S. against direct involvement in the conflict, which has already killed [hundreds in Iran](https://www.en-hrana.org/the-fifth-day-of-israeli-attacks-on-iran-a-review-of-the-incidents/?hilite=israeli+attacks+iran) and [dozens in Israel](https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-857892) since it [erupted less than a week ago](https://time.com/7293976/israel-iran-attack-war-hezbollah/). > > Ryabkov’s comments come after Trump [demanded Iran’s “unconditional surrender”](https://time.com/7295400/trump-us-iran-israel-war-khamenei-strike-fordow-unconditional-surrender/) as he openly pondered authorizing U.S. strikes on the nation’s [nuclear program](https://time.com/7294133/iran-israel-nuclear-program-attack/). Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei [rejected Trump’s demand](https://time.com/7295471/iran-supreme-leader-khamenei-warning-trump-united-states/) on Wednesday and warned that the U.S. would suffer “irreparable damage” if it joins the war. [The felon froths at the mouth over Juneteenth.](https://www.aol.com/donald-trump-appears-knock-juneteenth-010750610.html) > [@](#): > > President [Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/) appeared to criticize [Juneteenth celebrations](https://www.yahoo.com/news/juneteenth-2025-know-holiday-145601230.html) in a post on social media, saying there are “too many non-working holidays in America.” > > “It is costing our Country $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to keep all of these businesses closed,” Trump said on June 19. “The workers don’t want it either! Soon we’ll end up having a holiday for every once working day of the year.” > > The president did not specifically name the holiday in his post. > > Juneteenth commemorates the [events of June 19, 1865,](https://www.yahoo.com/news/juneteenth-sunday-whats-significance-behind-100055901.html) when the last Black slaves of the Confederacy were ordered free following the arrival of Union troops in Galveston, Texas. > > It has long been celebrated by Black Americans, but it rose to national prominence in 2020 amid protests against racial inequities, sparked in part by the police killings of [Breonna Taylor](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/local/breonna-taylor/2020/09/12/breonna-taylor-shooting-timeline-details-180-days-since-her-death/3394405001/) and [George Floyd](https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-floyd-protests-did-224932587.html). It was officially [recognized a federal holiday by then-President Joe Biden](https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-sign-juneteenth-bill-today-122602271.html) in 2021. > > It wasn’t immediately clear what costs Trump was referring to in his post. Private companies are not forced to close on federal holidays, [and many don’t.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/06/19/open-closed-juneteenth-2025/84259695007/) [Aww, the toddler’s feelings are hurt.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-house-rips-reporter-disgraceful-201128376.html) > [@](#): > > The White House made it clear this week that any criticism towards President Donald Trump and his personal life won’t be tolerated. > > During an episode of “The Contrarian” podcast with Jennifer Rubin, former CNN correspondent Jim Acosta commented on the ICE raids taking place in California. That eventually led to him taking a jab at Trump’s late first wife, Ivana. > > Before marrying Trump in 1977, Ivana lived in Canada. Originally, she spent her days in Czechoslovakia. She passed away on July 14, 2022. > > Though it seems incredibly wrong, Acosta felt comfortable dissing Ivana while on “The Contrarian” podcast. > > “Where are the ICE raids at the Trump properties? Could somebody call ICE on the Trump golf course in Virginia? You’re telling me there’s nobody in there that is undocumented or has some kind of squirreliness going on with their paperwork. Give me a break,” Acosta said. > > “How many immigrants has he married? He’s got one buried at his golf course in New Jersey! Isn’t she buried by the first hole or the second tee or something like that? Immigrants always doing the jobs that Americans don’t want to do!” Yeah, the dig at the deceased was a bit tacky. But, let’s be realistic here. The felon is a lot tacky and Acosta had a valid point. [More human mystery at the hands of the Second Felonial Era](https://www.yahoo.com/news/pregnant-us-citizen-detained-border-144914584.html) > [@](#): > > ([KTLA](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/pregnant-u-s-citizen-detained-by-border-patrol-agents-in-l-a-county-we-didnt-do-anything-wrong/)) – A pregnant U.S. citizen who was detained by federal agents approximately two weeks ago has since given birth to a healthy baby girl, but her boyfriend is now being held out of state and her problems are far from over. > > Cary López Alvarado told Nexstar’s KTLA that she “tried to remain strong” during the scary ordeal, which took place outside a building where her boyfriend and cousin were doing maintenance work on June 8. She was nine months pregnant at the time. > > Video taken by López depicts her struggling with a masked agent wearing a Border Patrol uniform asking to see her identification as she was protecting a truck carrying her boyfriend Brayan Nájera and cousin Alberto Sandoval — the latter of whom is also a U.S. citizen. & > [@](#): > > The then-soon-to-be-mother was taken to a processing facility in San Pedro, where, according to her, the agents automatically assumed she was undocumented. > > “[They said] ‘But you’re from Mexico, right?’ And I’m like ‘No, I’m from here,’” López said. “[They asked] … ‘Where’s here?’ and I’m like, ‘Here, the U.S., Los Angeles.” > > “They put us in chains, so I had a chain from my hands under my belly that went all the way to my legs,” she added. “Every now and then, I would fix my hands because I felt like I would be putting too much pressure because the chain went under my belly.” ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6018 "2025-06-20T04:48:26Z")
Fetterman is “no comment”. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6019 "2025-06-20T06:08:43Z")
The ICE Raid at Dodger’s Stadium… (coundn’t find the right youtube vid, so this is paraphrased… from _Slapshot_…) _“The fans are standing up to them, the Security Guards are standing up to them! The Peanut Venders are standing up to them, and By God, If I could get down there, I’d be standing up to them!”_ Good Job, Dodger Security ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 9:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6020 "2025-06-20T09:05:15Z")
Not much of a fan of AI art, but grudging points awarded for the deep cut. Abbott: “You’re showing your ignorance again!” Costello: “What’s the use of having ignorance if you don’t show it?” ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2025, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6021 "2025-06-20T10:24:43Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > 30,000 lb (14,000 kg) [GBU-57] Massive\_Ordnance\_Penetrator Yes, firstly they are a much later evolution of TNT explosives. Yet, as you said, the first thing they have to do is penetrate whatever rock or reinforced concrete before the big kaboom. A B-2 can carry two of these things, and I’ve no idea if it’s better to wait till the first one does its job, yet basically the 2nd (3rd, and so on) have to be as precise on their target as the first. I’m not looking at the rock/concrete thickness & depth numbers, yet my recollection from yesterday is it may well take 3 or 4 of these things to get to their deep underground target, and a lot of that has to do with how much and what kind of reinforced concrete - which is much more difficult to penetrate than rock. I reckon intelligence has some idea of all that yet even if four follow each-other and form the same kind of tunnel, if it doesn’t take out the complex down there then five and six or however many will be needed. Wiki said the Air Force has admitted to having 20 of these things, and perhaps mixing in some of the lesser ones might be part of the plan, yet if this complex isn’t taken out, the whole thing was a critical mission failure of extreme belligerence the Iranians will certainly retaliate against. Heck, even if it is a measurable success. There are 40,000 US troops within what is considered their targeting range. So it may not just be ballistic missiles raining down on Tel-Aviv but lots of other places that will kill American troops. And then what have you got? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=297) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=299)