# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 304
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6122 "2025-06-23T17:43:40Z")
Seems more likely that he’d declare that the sun NOT rise, and then, when it does, claim that it didn’t, at which point MAGAland will agree and the press will write earnest articles suggesting that the bright warm thing in the sky _could_ be something other than the sun. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6123 "2025-06-23T18:03:33Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Is the USA at war with North Korea? No, and it never was “declared” yet that was not some run-around by Truman of the Constitution. It happened “pre War Powers Act” yet if Congress dis-approved, it’d have been over even before the first time Truman fired General MacArthur… Truman fired MacArthur [only once, in 1951.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relief_of_Douglas_MacArthur) > [@Coriolanus](#): > > …The power of Declaration of War is entirely in Article II of the Constitution… Article I, Sec. 8, actually: “The Congress shall have Power… To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water…” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6124 "2025-06-24T00:38:11Z")
Is it a Gish gallop of clusterfucks or one, huge festering cf? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6125 "2025-06-24T01:01:19Z")
It’s a distraction. Start a war, and everything else is forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6126 "2025-06-24T01:14:52Z")
I was referring to the whole administration, not just the latest affront. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6127 "2025-06-24T01:15:44Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Is it a Gish gallop of clusterfucks or one, huge festering cf? I think it is like a malignant cancer that started in the lower colon, but then spread to the spleen, and on and on… ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6128 "2025-06-24T03:07:55Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Is it a Gish gallop of clusterfucks or one, huge festering cf? It’s more like watching a chihuahua trying to mount a succession of dobermans. [The felon just claimed there’s a ceasefire between Iran and Israel.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/iran-launches-missiles-drones-israel-083917263.html) > [@](#): > > DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — U.S. President [Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/people/donald-trump/) said that Israel and Iran had agreed to a “complete and total ceasefire" soon after Iran launched a limited missile attack Monday on a U.S. military base [in Qatar](https://apnews.com/hub/qatar), retaliating for the [American bombing of its nuclear sites](https://apnews.com/article/israel-iran-war-nuclear-talks-geneva-news-06-21-2025-a7b0cdaba28b5817467ccf712d214579). Iran said that as long as Israel stopped its attacks early Tuesday morning, it would halt theirs. > > Israel did not immediately acknowledge any ceasefire, but there were no reports of Israeli strikes in Iran after 4 a.m. local. Heavy Israeli strikes continued in Tehran and other cities until shortly before that time. > > “As of now, there is NO ‘agreement’ on any ceasefire or cessation of military operations,” Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi wrote in a post on X. “However, provided that the Israeli regime stops its illegal aggression against the Iranian people no later than 4 am Tehran time, we have no intention to continue our response afterwards.” It’s pretty sad when one can trust a regime like Iran’s over an American president. [And how did that ceasefire agreement come about when Iran is not negotiating with _either Israel or the United States_?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-point-holding-talks-israel-182928716.html) > [@](#): > > Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister Majid Takht-Ravanchi has said talks with the United States or Israel are off the table following the US overnight attacks on Iranian nuclear sites. > > During an interview aired on a programme of German broadcaster ARD, Takht-Ravanchi said there was currently “no point” in continuing negotiations while Iran was under attack from Israel and the US. > > “We do not want to have talks for the sake of talks,” he stressed. [Co-conspirator Vance shows he’s exactly like his idol: stupid.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/jd-vance-roasted-line-inadvertently-081245567.html) > [@](#): > > Vice President JD Vance faced ridicule Sunday on social media over what critics mockingly suggested was an inadvertent insult of President Donald Trump. > > Appearing on NBC’s “Meet The Press,” Vance was defending U.S. strikes on Iran as he told anchor Kristen Welker that he could “certainly empathize with Americans who are exhausted after 25 years of foreign entanglements in the Middle East.” > > “I understand the concern, but the difference is that back then we had dumb presidents,” Vance said. “And now we have a president who actually knows how to accomplish America’s national security objectives.” > > The comment raised eyebrows, especially given how Trump was president for four years during the quarter-century period Vance referred to, alongside George W. Bush, Barack Obama and Joe Biden. > > Vance also promised the current strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities wouldn’t turn into “some long, drawn-out thing,” saying: “We’ve got in, we’ve done the job of setting their nuclear program back.” > > But moments later, he appeared to contradict that assurance by adding: “We’re going to now work to permanently dismantle that nuclear program over the coming years, and that is what the president has set out to do.” Personally, I think infuriating yet another country to the point of launching missiles at American consular posts and American military units is conducive to achieving those goals. Unless, of course, those goals were to accomplish exactly that. But, hey, he must be doing great! What’s that? [Worldwide Caution it is.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/state-department-issues-worldwide-caution-223322301.html) (Formatting unchanged from the cite.) > [@](#): > > ([NewsNation](https://www.newsnationnow.com/)) — On Sunday evening, the [State Department issued a “worldwide caution”](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/ea/worldwide-caution2.html) security alert, almost 24 hours on from [attacks on Iranian nuclear sites](https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/us-strikes-iran-aftermath-hegseth/) by the United States. > > In a release on its website, the State Department said, “The conflict between Israel and Iran has resulted in disruptions to travel and periodic closure of airspace across the Middle East. There is the potential for demonstrations against U.S. citizens and interests abroad. > > ## ‘Worldwide caution’ security alert issued > > “The Department of State advises U.S. citizens worldwide to exercise increased caution. Please read carefully our Travel Advisory, country information, and any recent security alerts when planning travel at [https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages.html.”](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages.html.%E2%80%9D) > > It follows the Department of Homeland Security’s issuance of a [National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin.](https://www.dhs.gov/ntas/advisory/national-terrorism-advisory-system-bulletin-june-22-2025) > > [US strikes ‘obliterated’ Iran’s nuclear ambitions: Hegseth](https://www.newsnationnow.com/world/us-strikes-iran-aftermath-hegseth/?ipid=promo-link-block1) > > “The ongoing Iran conflict is causing a heightened threat environment in the United States,” the release said. “Low-level cyber attacks against US networks by pro-Iranian hacktivists are likely, and cyber actors affiliated with the Iranian government may conduct attacks against US networks. [Not to worry, though! The felon put a bright-eyed 22-year old in charge of counterterrorism. What could go wrong?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-superfan-22-running-counterterrorism-154242746.html) > [@](#): > > The qualifications of a 22-year-old Trump loyalist leading counterterrorism efforts across the nation have drawn fresh criticism after [Iran vowed payback for U.S. strikes](https://www.yahoo.com/news/americans-could-face-hostage-taking-034058826.html) on its nuclear facilities. > > Thomas Fugate, a former Trump campaign worker, is leading the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships—a division of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) that oversees terrorism prevention, ProPublica reported [earlier this month](https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dhs-thomas-fugate-cp3-terrorism-prevention). > > But the reality of his experience is raising concerns: He is a former gardener and grocery store clerk who graduated from the University of Texas at San Antonio just 12 months ago. Aside: Isn’t one of the main talking points the magaflatearthers have against a prominent Democrat her working as a bartender when she was in college? Continuing. > [@](#): > > The Republicans Against Trump X account added in a post, “As major U.S. cities brace for possible terror attacks in response to the strikes on Iran, just a reminder of who Trump put in charge of terror prevention. God help us all.” [Pakistan has some harsh words for the peace prize wannahave felon.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/pakistan-flip-flops-trump-nobel-124553357.html) > [@](#): > > Pakistan condemned President Donald Trump for bombing [Iranian nuclear facilities,](https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-june-21-2025) less than 24 hours after saying he deserved a Nobel Peace Prize for defusing a recent crisis with India. > > The Pakistani government on Saturday credited the “decisive diplomatic intervention” and “pivotal leadership” of Trump in brokering a truce with India, after a massacre of tourists in [Indian-controlled Kashmir](https://www.foxnews.com/world/heres-why-flare-up-between-india-pakistan-over-kashmir-matters) in April,. The nuclear-armed rivals stepped closer to war in the weeks that followed, attacking each other until intense diplomatic efforts, led by the U.S., resulted in a truce. > > The next day, however, it condemned the U.S. for attacking Iran, saying the strikes “constituted a serious violation of international law” and the statute of the International Atomic Energy Agency. [That’s all peachy keen, though, because we have allies! _Or do we?_](https://www.yahoo.com/news/countries-ditch-nato-summit-trump-151721496.html) > [@](#): > > Key allies are shunning the U.S. after it bombed Iranian nuclear sites with Israel. > > South Korean President Lee Jae-myung and Japanese Prime Minister Shigeru Ishiba on Monday both announced their intentions to skip the upcoming NATO summit at the Hague. South Korean sources [confirmed](https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1204237.html) that Jae-myung’s decision was in part due to Trump’s attack on Iran, while the Japanese prime minister has [cited](https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2025/06/23/japan/politics/ishiba-nato-trip/) “various circumstances.” > > “Despite the pile of issues to deal with on the home front, the administration had seriously considered attending this year’s NATO summit,” South Korea’s presidential office told reporters on Sunday. “However, considering various pending national issues and uncertainty in the Middle East, the president has decided not to attend the summit.” > > Japan’s leader has attended every NATO summit since 2022, making this a significant snub. > > This move shows that the U.S. is growing increasingly isolated due to its support of Israel and its unprovoked aggression towards Iran. This escalation shows our allies that the U.S. is no longer as committed to the traditional principles and customs of the Western world. [Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had some interesting comments for Hegseth in regards to the attack on Iran.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/aoc-brutally-bursts-trump-world-101411119.html) > [@](#): > > Defense Secretary [Pete Hegseth](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/pete-hegseth) received praise from President Donald Trump’s supporters for not leaking U.S. plans to bomb Iranian nuclear sites ahead of time, prompting ridicule from critics at what they saw as a laughably low bar for congratulations. > > Newsmax host Todd Starnes was among those who applauded the former Fox News personality, who earlier this year was embroiled in the so-called Signal-gate scandal after The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg was accidentally added to a group chat discussing strikes in Yemen. > > “Not a single leak. Well done, @SecDef,” Starnes wrote on X, formerly Twitter. > > Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) led the mockery of such applause. > > “This is like applauding a grown man for being able to wipe their behind,” she wrote on X. “Not exactly a vote of confidence.” [Felon Junior is as much of a bigot as the felon is.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/don-jr-publicly-mocks-dem-045408049.html) > [@](#): > > In a blatantly racist blow to Democratic Sen. Alex Padilla, who was tackled and handcuffed by immigration officers, Donald Trump Jr. posted a meme to his public X account that read: “I don’t really care, José.” > > The discriminatory post referred to earlier comments from Vice President JD Vance, who on Thursday called the senator “José,” a stereotypical moniker used by conservatives to describe people of Mexican descent. Trump Jr.’s Saturday post included an AI-generated photo of Vance smoking a pipe and wearing a sombrero hat. [Have we already added SCOTUS to the bootlicker brigade?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/win-trump-supreme-court-lifts-204141006.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON − An ideologically divided[Supreme Court](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/supreme-court/) on June 23 agreed to pause a judge’s order requiring migrants be given the chance to contest they’d be harmed if removed to countries other than their own, a win for the Trump administration’s efforts to rapidly deport them. > > “Fire up the deportation planes,” the Department of Homeland Security [said on social media](https://x.com/DHSgov/status/1937273682465894869). > > The decision came over the objections of the court’s three liberal justices: Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan and Ketanji Brown Jackson. > > Sotomayor wrote that her colleagues are “rewarding lawlessness.” > > “Apparently, the Court finds the idea that thousands will suffer violence in farflung locales more palatable than the remote possibility that a District Court exceeded its remedial powers when it ordered the Government to provide notice and process to which the plaintiffs are constitutionally and statutorily entitled,” she wrote in a sharply worded, 19-page dissent that Kagan and Jackson joined. “That use of discretion is as incomprehensible as it is inexcusable.” [That tells me what the final outcome of the following case is going to be, as if there were any doubt.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-says-kilmar-brego-garc-151628419.html) > [@](#): > > The Trump administration said a Salvadoran man who was mistakenly deported and then brought back to the US on criminal charges will “never go free” on American soil, even though a judge ordered his release. [The Big Bullshit Bill takes another trimming. And this one will have the felon chucking ketchup left, right, and center (but mostly right).](https://www.aol.com/republican-attempt-rein-federal-judges-165952050.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats forced the removal of a provision in Republicans’ sweeping domestic policy bill that sought to restrict the power of courts to block federal government policies with injunctions or restraining orders. > > Democrats are challenging a broad range of provisions in the “One Big Beautiful Bill Act” for compliance with Senate budget rules that Republicans are relying on to bypass the 60-vote hurdle in the chamber to advance most legislation. > > A Democratic aide on the Senate Budget Committee confirmed that Senate Parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough, the in-house referee, ruled the provision did not comply with the “Byrd rule,” which says provisions must be directly related to taxes or spending. [And finaly, a bit of amusement. The felon really cannot spell anything correctly.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-botches-own-name-most-024418724.html) > [@](#): > > President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) on Sunday posted a message on his Truth Social website thanking the B-2 pilots who took part in [this weekend’s attack on Iran](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ap-ml-mideast-wars-us-iran-israel_n_6857e3e5e4b05236097fb44f?k68). > > But the president’s message had one key flaw: He misspelled his own name. > > “The GREAT B-2 pilots have just landed, safely, in Missouri. Thank you for a job well done!!!” Trump wrote, and then signed his message in all caps: “DONAKD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!” I have some advice for you, Donakd. _Dyxj idd 'bs suw!_ ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6129 "2025-06-24T03:57:24Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I thought that troll natureboy was already banned. [Hehehehehehehe.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/natureboy-is-permanently-banned-for-antisemitism-and-arguing-moderation/1020035) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6130 "2025-06-24T05:02:34Z")
Someone on Reddit called the an irresistible chode meeting an immovable asshole and I thought that was pretty apt. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6131 "2025-06-24T07:04:47Z")
_I accidentally posted the following in the schadenfreude thread._ [I have no way of adequately describing this.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-bizarre-n-word-calls-165447885.html) Bizarre just doesn’t have the oomph for it. it also is too pathetically like a little boy trying very hard to get his daddy to like him. > [@](#): > > As the U.S. braced for Iran’s next move in the Middle East, President Donald Trump rambled on social media with a bizarre post where he invoked the “N word” but meant nuclear and referred to Vladimir Putin as “THE BOSS.” > > “Did I hear Former President Medvedev, from Russia, casually throwing around the “N word” (Nuclear!), and saying that he and other Countries would supply Nuclear Warheads to Iran?" Trump wrote on Truth Social. > > The post and a series of others fired off on Monday suggested the president was watching television and posting about it in real time amid escalating conflicts around the world. > > “Did he really say that or, is it just a figment of my imagination? If he did say that, and, if confirmed, please let me know, IMMEDIATELY.” Trump continued. > > The president then wrote that the “‘N word’ should not be treated so casually. I guess that’s why Putin’s ‘THE BOSS.’” ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6132 "2025-06-24T09:59:27Z")
Maybe little donnie thinks he can snatch the moniker away from that big poopyhead, Bruce Springsteen. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6133 "2025-06-24T13:39:48Z")
It would appear that we have a new maxiom\*: in addition to getting involved in a land war in Asia and going up against a Sicilian when death is on the line, “Never boast about brokering a ceasefire in the Middle East.” Even when both parties are indeed on board (and that’s kind of fuzzy in this case), it’s likely to have the lifespan of a sickly mayfly. \* From a one-act play, _Laundry and Bourbon_. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6134 "2025-06-24T22:38:03Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “Did he really say that or, is it just a figment of my imagination? If he did say that, and, if confirmed, please let me know, IMMEDIATELY.” Trump continued. Has anyone let him know yet? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6135 "2025-06-24T23:01:44Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > Has anyone let him know yet? He can’t handle the truth. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6136 "2025-06-25T00:05:12Z")
I was disappointed he didn’t throw in “Thank you for your attention to this matter” ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6137 "2025-06-25T01:47:19Z")
So is the “TWELVE DAY WAR” (now give me the Nobel Prize) not really over? Even if (credit to John Lennon) “If I want it?” Trump sycophant writer: > Sir, I can only inform your lordship that only “decade”, “century” and “millennium” are available. The latter - meaning the last bigly word I used - worked - well was used by Hitler regarding the Reich. > I can consult Starbucks who have Italian words that might be useful, if your lordship does not consider anything less than 1,000 can be used? ETA: Holy shit. Just caught his angry rant at Israel & Iran > They don’t know what the fuck they’re doing (walks away) Correct me if I’m wrong, yet I do not believe I’ve ever heard a president say “Fuck” to the press before. Nixon probably on the tapes. But to the press? To the world? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6138 "2025-06-25T02:08:33Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > ETA: Holy shit. Just caught his angry rant at Israel & Iran > > > They don’t know what the fuck they’re doing (walks away) Another classic case of Trump psychological projection. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6139 "2025-06-25T02:17:04Z")
I’ve no idea what he’s talking about with some “0” bomb that Israel apparently didn’t do. I agree with him that these two countries have been fighting a long time. Yet he declared peace. This is just to my not-so-young-self unprecedented and he is so un-hinged right now: > **[Trump in angry outburst aimed at Israel and Iran](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cwygp9d44zeo)** > > The US president expressed his frustration at the conduct of the two nations. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6140 "2025-06-25T02:27:37Z")
[Is anyone surprised? Bueller? Bueller?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/complaint-alleges-doj-official-emil-222445443.html) > [@](#): > > A top Justice Department official nominated by President Donald Trump to fill a [federal appeals court vacancy](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-taps-controversial-top-doj-official-federal-circuit/story?id=122282435) allegedly suggested the Trump administration should defy judicial orders that sought to restrict their aggressive efforts to deport undocumented immigrants earlier this year, according to a whistleblower complaint from a fired DOJ career official. > > The 27-page complaint, provided to the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Justice Department’s top watchdog and obtained by ABC News, alleges that Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove and other top DOJ officials strategized how they could mislead courts regarding the administration’s [immigration enforcement efforts](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-immigration-crackdown-ripples-us/story?id=118742035) and potentially ignore judges’ rulings outright. > > The allegations from Erez Reuveni – who was [fired from the department](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-places-attorney-leave-after-struggling-maryland-migrant/story?id=120526466) in April after he appeared in federal court in Maryland and admitted to a judge that the government had mistakenly deported accused MS-13 member Kilmar Abrego Garcia to El Salvador – were delivered to the Senate on the eve of a confirmation hearing for Bove to serve on the powerful 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals. [Also not a surprise: “Alligator Alcatraz”.](https://www.aol.com/alligator-alcatraz-migrant-detention-center-173057975.html) (Formatting as in the cite.) > [@](#): > > A new migrant detention facility officials are calling “Alligator Alcatraz” is slated to open in Florida’s Everglades next month, according to [Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier](https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-asks-supreme-court-let-191938392.html). > > The federal government on June 23 approved a proposal to open a 5,000-bed detention facility on 39-square miles of land in the Everglades, Uthmeier said in an[interview posted on X](https://x.com/AGJamesUthmeier/status/1937178826099798155). > > “The perimeter’s already set by mother nature,” Uthmeier said. “A lot of people thought maybe it was just a joke, but we’re serious.” > > Here’s what we know so far about the so-called “Alligator Alcatraz.” > > ## What is ‘Alligator Alcatraz’? > > So-called “Alligator Alcatraz” will be a site as part of a new detention facility located in the Everglades in South Florida. > > The facility sits on a 39-square mile vacant airfield with a roughly 11,000 foot runway. It will have 5,000 beds and open in early July, Uthmeier said. He also said the facility is intended to be temporary. > > “We’ll have some light infrastructure, a lot of heavy duty tent facilities, trailer facilities,” Uthmeier said. “We don’t need to build a lot of brick-and-mortar.” > > Uthmeier said he believes the facility will house both detained migrants from Florida as well as from other states around the country. > > ## Where is ‘Alligator Alcatraz’? > > The detention facility is proposed to be on the site of the Dade-Collier Training and Transition Airport in Ochopee, Florida, Uthmeier said in a [video](https://x.com/AGJamesUthmeier/status/1935741644101374271)on X. > > “This is an old, virtually abandoned airport facility right in the middle of the Everglades,” he said. Among all the other problems with this, anyone want to bet there was an environmental impact statement even started for this inanity? [The felon says no vacations until the Big Bullshit Bill passes!](https://www.aol.com/trump-says-no-vacations-until-175522681.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump on Tuesday told Senate Republicans to lock themselves in a room if necessary to work out their differences and pass the megabill that will fund his second-term agenda. > > “To my friends in the Senate, lock yourself in a room if you must, don’t go home, and GET THE DEAL DONE THIS WEEK,” Trump posted on his social media platform while on his way to the NATO summit in the Netherlands. “Work with the House so they can pick it up, and pass it, IMMEDIATELY. NO ONE GOES ON VACATION UNTIL IT’S DONE.” > > Both the Senate and House are under pressure to reconcile differences between the House and Senate versions of the bill and get it to Trump’s desk by July 4. No word on if he issued this statement from a golf course. [What do you know? The flexing of OPM (Other People’s Muscles) was rather ineffective.](https://www.aol.com/news/exclusive-early-us-intel-assessment-193907136.html) > [@](#): > > The [US military strikes on three of Iran’s nuclear facilities](https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/22/politics/trump-iran-strike-decision-inside?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) last weekend did not destroy the core components of the country’s nuclear program and likely only set it back by months, according to an early US intelligence assessment that was described by seven people briefed on it. > > The assessment, which has not been previously reported, was produced by the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Pentagon’s intelligence arm. It is based on a battle damage assessment conducted by US Central Command in the aftermath of the US strikes, one of the sources said. > > The analysis of the damage to the sites and the impact of the strikes on Iran’s nuclear ambitions is ongoing, and could change as more intelligence becomes available. But the early findings are at odds with President Donald Trump’s repeated claims that the strikes “completely and totally obliterated” Iran’s nuclear enrichment facilities. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth also said on Sunday that Iran’s nuclear ambitions “have been obliterated.” > > Two of the people familiar with the assessment said Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium was not destroyed. One of the people said the centrifuges are largely “intact.” Another source said that the intelligence assessed enriched uranium was moved out of the sites prior to the US strikes. > > “So the (DIA) assessment is that the US set them back maybe a few months, tops,” this person added. > > The White House acknowledged the existence of the assessment but said they disagreed with it. Yeah. Let’s enter into another war because the felon and his co-conspirators disagree with the professionals. [Co-conspirator Kennedy ordered to shut his lying mouth.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-chair-asks-rfk-jr-160833246.html) Let’s jump to the germ of the matter. > [@](#): > > “Congressman Pallone, 15 years ago, you and I met. You were, at that time, a champion of people who had suffered injuries from vaccines. You were very adamant about it. You were the leading member of Congress on that issue,” said Kennedy. > > “Since then, you’ve accepted $2 million from pharmaceutical companies in contributions, more than any other member of this committee,” he continued. “And your enthusiasm for supporting the old [Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices], which was completely rife and pervasive with pharmaceutical conflicts, seems to be an outcome of those contributions.” > > Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), ranking member of the health subcommittee, immediately raised a point order, saying Kennedy was “impugning Mr. Pallone.” > > Subcommittee Chair Buddy Carter (R-Ga.) asked that the clock be paused. After a brief back and forth with committee members and staffers, he acknowledged it was a valid point of order and asked Kennedy to retract his remarks about Pallone. [Another grilling of co-conspirator Kennedy was even more blunt.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrat-tells-rfk-jr-lied-174659803.html) > [@](#): > > Rep. Kim Schrier (D-Wash.) accused Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of lying to Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.) when he told the senator he would maintain [a key federal vaccine advisory committee](https://www.yahoo.com/news/rfk-jr-fires-cdc-independent-212603040.html) “without changes.” > > During a budget hearing held by the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Health, Schrier, a pediatrician, described the dire impacts of skipping childhood vaccinations for illnesses, such as whopping cough. > > “You know what’s great? There’s a vaccine that prevents this,” Schrier told Kennedy. “We rely on the advisory committee on immunization practices, a panel of experts, to recommend which vaccines people should get at which ages and the like.” > > “Now I know Sen. Cassidy had concerns about your views on this, and so when he voted to confirm you as Secretary of HHS on Feb. 4, he explained that decision by saying on the Senate floor that, ‘If confirmed, you will maintain the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices without changes,'” Schrier recounted. > > “But then two weeks ago you fired all 17 experts on that very committee. Mr. Secretary, question for you, did you lie to Sen. Cassidy when you told him you would not change this panel of experts?” Schrier asked. [The Second Felonial Era is, of course, the administrative equivalent of a headless chicken.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-scrambles-rehire-key-110004483.html) > [@](#): > > Federal agencies are rehiring and ordering back from leave some of the employees who were laid off in the weeks after President [Donald Trump](https://www.cnn.com/politics/president-donald-trump-47?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) took office as they scramble to fill critical gaps in services left by the [Department of Government Efficiency-led effort](https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/17/politics/musk-doge-future?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) to shrink the federal workforce. > > The Trump administration’s quiet backtracking from the firings and voluntary retirements — which are also paired with new hires to fill vacancies those departures created — come as federal agencies are still implementing their [“reduction-in-force” plans](https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/02/politics/federal-workers-left-in-limbo?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) as part of a push for spending cuts. > > Experts warned that even though the Trump administration has backtracked on some of its efforts to shrink the federal workforce, the rapid rehirings are a warning sign that it has lost more capacities and expertise that could prove critical — and difficult to replace — in the months and years ahead. [The felon and his co-conspirators are throwing a tantrum becuase they’re not being allowed to deport people to a concentration camp in South Sudan.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-accuses-judge-unprecedented-150550448.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — A fight over the fate of a group of migrants the Trump administration wants to deport to South Sudan flared up again on Tuesday as the Justice Department accused a federal judge of “unprecedented defiance” of a Supreme Court decision the previous day. > > Solicitor General D. John Sauer [filed a motion](https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24A1153/363774/20250624095640753_DVD%20Clarification%20v4.pdf) at the Supreme Court seeking clarification of the [Monday evening decision](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-allows-trump-deport-certain-immigrants-third-countries-rcna209419) that lifted nationwide restrictions on the administration’s ability to send migrants to “third countries” they have no connection to. > > The move from the Trump administration comes as the government itself has been accused of violating court orders, including by the judge handling the deportation case, Massachusetts-based U.S. District Judge Brian Murphy, who has come under heavy fire from MAGA world. > > Immediately after the Supreme Court action, Murphy said in a docket entry that he did not believe the justices blocked his May 21 order that prevented the men being sent to South Sudan. > > The detainees are currently being held in a U.S. facility in Djibouti. Plaintiffs says all eight are subject to Murphy’s order, although previously only six were mentioned in his May decision. > > Murphy’s understanding was that the high court had blocked only his earlier ruling that set nationwide rules giving those affected a “meaningful opportunity” to bring claims that they would be at risk of torture, persecution or death if they were [sent to countries](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration) the administration has made deals with to receive deported immigrants. [The military had to fake up anothr attack to keep the felon from giving away all the information about the actual attack.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-almost-sabotaged-own-secret-163143263.html) > [@](#): > > The U.S. military was able to carry out its strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities on Saturday without Iran firing back, but leading up to the daring mission, U.S. officials feared Donald Trump would tip off Tehran. > > The president had been speaking openly with reporters and posting on social media about Iran for more than a week as the conflict between Israel and Iran escalated. He held off revealing his ultimate intention, but appeared to be toying with the Iranians. > > In the end, the Trump administration was able to pull off the mission, but according to the [_New York Times_](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/22/us/politics/trump-iran-decision-strikes.html), planners began to worry that Trump would give Iran too much warning and devised a decoy to throw off suspicion. Look, I fully agree this attack was illadvised, morally wrong, and illegal, but if you’re going to carry out a military attack, what say you do it in a military manner? Remember back in the First Felonial Era when the felon was only concerned about “his numbers” not looking bad? [Check out the Second Felonial Era’s numbers!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/devastating-poll-shows-trump-americans-145930712.html) > [@](#): > > A bombshell CNN poll found that a clear majority of Americans disapprove of President Trump’s decision to launch [airstrikes in Iran](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-begs-israel-not-drop-070340782.html). > > The [poll](https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/24/politics/trump-iran-strikes-poll-cnn-ssrs) found that 56 percent of Americans disapproved of military action in Iran, while only 44 percent were in favor. It also found that 58 percent of those surveyed believe Trump’s actions will make Iran a bigger threat to the U.S. > > The vast majority of Democrats (88 percent) and most independents (60 percent) said they opposed the strikes, while most Republicans (82 percent) broadly approved. But just 44 percent of Republicans said they strongly approved of Trump’s actions—a much smaller cohort than the 60 percent of Democrats who strongly disapproved. [US Army veteran suffering from PTSD “self-deports”.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/purple-heart-veteran-shot-action-154345381.html) > [@](#): > > A U.S. Army veteran, awarded the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in combat, has self-deported to South Korea after being informed[he could no longer remain in America](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/marine-corps-baton-rouge-mama-trump-california-b2774867.html)under President [Donald Trump](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/donald-trump)’s [hardline immigration policies](https://www.yahoo.com/news/la-archbishop-slams-trump-cruel-010400289.html). > > Sae Joon Park, 55, a [green card holder](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/victor-avila-ice-arrest-san-diego-b2773868.html) who has lived in the U.S. since the age of seven, departed on Monday following a removal order stemming from drug possession and failure to appear in court charges from over 15 years ago. > > Park attributes these past offenses to years of untreated [post-traumatic stress disorder](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/post-traumatic-stress-disorder) (PTSD), which he developed after being wounded in action in Panama in 1989. > > “I can’t believe that this is happening in America,” Park [told NPR in an interview](https://www.npr.org/2025/06/24/g-s1-74036/trump-ice-self-deportation-army-veteran-hawaii) before his departure. “That blows me away, like a country that I fought for.” > > Having arrived in the U.S. from South Korea in the late 1970s, Park grew up in Los Angeles. Seeking direction, he enlisted in the U.S. Army after high school. > > “I wanted direction and [to] better myself and maybe help serve the country,” he explained. > > At 20, he was deployed to Panama as part of the 1989 U.S. invasion to topple Manuel Noriega’s regime. During a firefight, he was shot. > > “I realized I was shot,” he recounted. “So I’m thinking, ‘Oh my God, I’m paralyzed.’ And then thinking, ‘Oh my God, I’m not just paralyzed. I’m dying right now.’” A bullet was miraculously deflected by his dog tag, saving his life. There’s more at the article. Try to remember that PTSD was not as well-known at the time, IIRC. [First we had Jewish space lasers and now we have Biden T-storms!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-complains-biden-let-thunderstorms-160309656.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump got a little tongue-tied [speaking with reporters on Air Force One](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-ignores-ukraine-war-declares-154127110.html), appearing to suggest his predecessor had left the United States vulnerable to attacks by forces of nature. > > Asked by one journalist about the [threat of Iranian retaliation on U.S. soil](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-backtracks-booting-mullahs-ceasefire-152833596.html) following strikes against three nuclear sites in the Islamic Republic over the weekend, the president was quick to pin the blame on Joe Biden. > > \*“\*Biden let a lot of **supercells** into the United States. He was an incompetent president. He had no idea what he was doing,” Trump said in audio of the exchange obtained by Fox News. > > “It was gross incompetence,” he went on. “Among everything else, he let a lot of **supercells** in, many from Iran. But hopefully we’ll take care of them. What Biden did to this country should never be forgotten.” ---
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> [@dasmoocher](#): > > Another classic case of Trump psychological projection. _Psychopathic_. When referring to anything involving him, \*psychopathic" is always the correct word choice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=303) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=305)