# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6142 "2025-06-25T02:38:26Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Look, I fully agree this attack was illadvised, morally wrong, and illegal, but if you’re going to carry out a military attack, what say you do it in a military manner?

Setting: Oval Poker Game, with VP, Marco, Chief of Staff and some military guy who was told “You **will** like to play poker with the President”

> Trump: Just to let you all know, I’ve paid the dealer to stack the deck. Heh, did I say that out loud, just kidding.  
> _cards dealt_  
> Trump: What a lousy hand. What is the maximum raise we’re allowing? I’d like to increase that anyways. And all of you are in.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6143 "2025-06-25T04:34:34Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> Correct me if I’m wrong, yet I do not believe I’ve ever heard a president say “Fuck” to the press before.

Biden was caught on a hot mic saying “this is a big fuckin’ deal” during the Obamacare signing ceremony. He wasn’t President yet, and he was overheard rather than saying it directly, but it kinda sorta counts.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6144 "2025-06-25T10:20:55Z")

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_Addendum to today’s update_

[Giuliani is now on the Homeland Security Council.](https://www.aol.com/news/giuliani-lewandowski-among-members-homeland-002104576.html)

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> President [Donald Trump](https://www.cnn.com/politics/president-donald-trump-47?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) announced his appointments to an advisory council inside the Department of Homeland Security on Tuesday, with a list that includes a right-wing news commentator, former lawmakers, Trump’s former attorney Rudy Giuliani and a top former campaign adviser.
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> The announcement by Trump and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem says the council, established first in 2002, will provide “real-time, real-world and independent advice on homeland security operations.”
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> The list includes right-wing political commentator Mark Levin, as well as Giuliani, who helped lead efforts to try and overturn the 2020 election results and was later sued for defamation by two Georgia election workers; a lawsuit he lost before a jury in Washington, DC.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6145 "2025-06-25T11:03:53Z")

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Never fails - The bad penny keeps coming back.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6146 "2025-06-25T11:32:22Z")

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I think you may be overvaluing their worth.

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6147 "2025-06-25T12:19:31Z")

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I wonder how many fake studies will be cited when RFK, Jr.'s report that vaccines cause autism comes out in September.

[Exclusive: US CDC vaccine presentation cites study that does not exist, author says](https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/us-cdc-report-shows-no-evidence-linking-thimerosal-containing-vaccines-autism-2025-06-24/)

> June 24 (Reuters) - A review on the use of the preservative thimerosal in vaccines slated to be presented on Thursday to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s outside vaccine committee cites a study that does not exist, the scientist listed as the study’s author said.
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> The report, called “Thimerosal as a Vaccine Preservative” published on the CDC website on Tuesday, is to be presented by Lyn Redwood, a former leader of the anti-vaccine group Children’s Health Defense.
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> It makes reference to a study called “Low-level neonatal thimerosal exposure: Long-term consequences in the brain,” published in the journal Neurotoxicology in 2008, and co-authored by UC Davis Professor Emeritus Robert Berman.
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> But according to Berman, “it’s not making reference to a study I published or carried out.”

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6148 "2025-06-25T13:11:41Z")

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Republicans lying. Imagine my shock.

> [@Cervaise](#):
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> He wasn’t President yet, and he was overheard rather than saying it directly, but it kinda sorta counts.

Was he wearing a tan suit?

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6149 "2025-06-25T15:46:21Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Was he wearing a tan suit?

I distain many of Trump’s sartorial choices; but he is yet to appear in tan.

I can only surmise that if he did, it would be impossible to tell where the suit ended and his overly botoxed face began.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6150 "2025-06-25T15:51:24Z")

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In this case, “he” was referring to Biden who was caught saying “fuck” on a hot mic. Wearing a tan suit is apparently an impeachable offense to some in this country.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6151 "2025-06-25T17:04:10Z")

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Good thing she doesn’t hold office.

[![](https://www.hola.com/us/horizon/original_aspect_ratio/25caf32694ae-gettyimages-2202598378.jpg?im=Resize=(960),type=downsize) ](https://www.hola.com/us/horizon/original_aspect_ratio/25caf32694ae-gettyimages-2202598378.jpg?im=Resize=(960),type=downsize)

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6152 "2025-06-25T17:17:37Z")

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Is that picture AI generated or is she trying to ape her husband’s expression?  
[![](https://img.particlenews.com/img/id/4HWJqm_126jZQSy00) ](https://img.particlenews.com/img/id/4HWJqm_126jZQSy00)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6153 "2025-06-25T17:28:38Z")

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Not AI. This was a real fashion choice.

> **[Footwear News](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/melania-trump-wears-beige-pointed-193324276.html)**
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> Footwear News is a leading shoe publisher reporting on the latest in shoe industry business, sneaker trends, fashion news and celebrity style.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6154 "2025-06-25T17:39:37Z")

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Would it be correct to call her dress a tan suit?  
BTW: She does not look happy at all. Not that I mind.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6155 "2025-06-25T17:40:10Z")

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She always looks like she’s sucking a lemon.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6156 "2025-06-25T17:47:05Z")

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Better than an orange.

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**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6157 "2025-06-25T17:49:23Z")

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🤣 🤣 🤣

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6158 "2025-06-25T18:08:57Z")

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Or an _I really don’t care. Do U_ jacket.

Pure class from top to bottom this family is.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Would it be correct to call her dress a tan suit?

What else would it be.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6160 "2025-06-25T20:01:12Z")

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> [@dasmoocher](#):
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> > [@Reuters article](#):
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> > But according to Berman, “it’s not making reference to a study I published or carried out.”

AI strikes again. I’d ask “When are these guys going to learn?” but the answer apparently is “Never.”

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6161 "2025-06-25T20:25:03Z")

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Of course they don’t learn. Use AI enough, and you really do lose the ability to think.

[AI tools may weaken critical thinking skills by encouraging cognitive offloading, study suggests](https://www.psypost.org/ai-tools-may-weaken-critical-thinking-skills-by-encouraging-cognitive-offloading-study-suggests/) etc.

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