# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 314
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6322 "2025-07-04T09:52:53Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Sorry about any formatting issues. I’m rather tired. It’s been a long week, felt like an entire year. Always much appreciated! With all these examples of injustice appearing all too often, I can only wonder when or what the tipping point will be. All of this nuttiness is so random it’s hard to even categorize t.hem all. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6323 "2025-07-04T12:54:13Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > examples of injustice Has the felon yet exceeded the number of concentration camps Dolph set up outside the “homeland”? [It seems SCOTUS doesn’t care.](https://us.yahoo.com/news/supreme-court-sides-trump-administration-203545535.html) (The **bolding** and _italics_ are mine; the hypocrisy most definitely is not.) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON – The [Supreme Court](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/supreme-court/) on July 3 backed the Trump administration in a dispute with a federal judge over the administration’s attempt to deport eight migrants to South Sudan. > > The high court said its [June 23 order](https://us.yahoo.com/news/win-trump-supreme-court-lifts-204141006.html)overriding the judge’s requirement that a group of migrants be given a meaningful chance to show they would be harmed if removed to countries other than their homeland applies to the eight being held at a military base in Djibouti. > > The Department of Homeland Security said the migrants would be in South Sudan soon. > > **“These sickos will be in South Sudan by Independence Day,” Tricia McLaughlin, a DHS assistant secretary, said in a statement. _“A win for the rule of law, safety and security of the American people."_** Maybe I’m hoping against hope. My hope is every pilot, every ship captain, ever railroad conductor, and whatever the term is for the person running all the other modes of travel is refuses to take these deportees aboard. And if that means their companies lose their licenses to operate, then that is for the greater good. [And let’s remember the current political situation in South Sudan, according to the United States Department of State.](https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/south-sudan-travel-advisory.html#:~:text=South%20Sudan%20%2D%20Level%204%3A%20Do%20Not%20Travel&text=Updated%20to%20reflect%20ordered%20departure,%2C%20kidnapping%2C%20and%20armed%20conflict.) (The formatting is from the cite.) > [@](#): > > **Updated to reflect ordered departure of non-emergency U.S. government personnel due to continued security threats in South Sudan.** > > Do not travel to South Sudan due to **crime** , **kidnapping** , and **armed conflict**. > > **Country Summary:** Due to the risks in the country, on March 08, 2025, the Department of State ordered the departure of non-emergency U.S. government employees from South Sudan. > > Armed conflict is ongoing and includes fighting between various political and ethnic groups. Weapons are readily available to the population. In addition, cattle raids occur throughout the country and often lead to violence. > > Violent crime, such as carjackings, shootings, ambushes, assaults, robberies, and kidnappings are common throughout South Sudan, including Juba. Foreign nationals have been the victims of rape, sexual assault, armed robberies, and other violent crimes. The country is in a _de facto_ civil war right now. It is essentially vying to outdo wartime Somalia for lawlessness. And you know we, the American taxpayers, are paying their government, such as it is, to “house” the deportees. By the way, these particular deportees are the _ **people** _ who have been held in a shipping container in Djibouti. (I believe that has been discussed in this thread already.) So, what’s the over under on when the felon goes to court to have his birth date changed officially to April 20? ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6324 "2025-07-04T13:05:28Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > So, what’s the over under on when the felon goes to court to have his birth date changed officially to April 20? Hey, no need to Godwinize the…nah, they’re a bunch of fucking nazis and hopefully they’ll meet the same fate. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6325 "2025-07-04T14:35:42Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > It’s another sign of how the Trump administration and its allies are relying on [scare tactics](https://apnews.com/article/noem-homeland-security-immigration-prison-el-salvador-188d999b6625ea05e85a86f0ec4e670a) to try to persuade people in the country illegally to leave voluntarily. They think that people who crossed the Darien Gap are going to be deterred by the threat of a few Florida alligators? Get real. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6326 "2025-07-04T15:26:22Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > So, what’s the over under on when the felon goes to court to have his birth date changed officially to April 20? He could change his last name back to Drumpf, in which case his fans could use “44” instead of “88.” ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6327 "2025-07-04T15:45:28Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > By the way, these particular deportees are the _ **people** _ who have been held in a shipping container in Djibouti. (I believe that has been discussed in this thread already.) The part I don’t get is, if they’re really just “deporting” these people, how is, “Well, they’re in Djibouti, so mission accomplished” not enough? Why is the court allowing them to be sent to some third country? Sure the US’ legitimate concerns (if any existed) would be satisfied by leaving them in Djibouti? They’re not just arguing for deportations, they then want those people detained in inhumane prison conditions in foreign countries. This isn’t “deportation”, this is just extreme outsourcing of private prisons. I’m pretty sure that if I was one of these people, I’d rather be abandoned to my own devices in Djibouti, than sent to a shitty prison in a war zone. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6328 "2025-07-04T15:47:55Z")
I suggest Deluded Dopey Dotard Don, or 4444. Can also be written as 44. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6329 "2025-07-04T15:50:15Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > He could change his last name back to Drumpf, in which case his fans could use “44” instead of “88.” To Mr. 45/47, the number 44 would be the moral (immoral?) equivalent of 666, because 44 was Obama. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6330 "2025-07-04T17:58:51Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > Always much appreciated! With all these examples of injustice appearing all too often, I can only wonder when or what the tipping point will be. The ‘tipping point’ happened decades ago. But every judge is apparently bought off. As is most of congress. Not sure WE THE PEOPLE can recover from this. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6331 "2025-07-04T20:19:19Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > … Can also be written as 44 Or four to the fart-h power. ---
**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6332 "2025-07-04T21:01:08Z")
Tangent: We took a trip to Scotland and while driving around we noticed a town called Forfar, in Fife, north of the Firth of Forth. My son and I have used this tongue twister ever since. It isn’t far from “fart-h’s” fairways (golf course)… ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6333 "2025-07-04T22:06:50Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > …The ‘tipping point’ happened decades ago. But every judge is apparently bought off. As is most of congress… Given Senate and House Republicans’ obeisance to Trump, Federal judges are practically the only safeguard we have against Trumpian tyranny, and so far most of them are stepping up to the mark, thank God. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6334 "2025-07-04T22:16:04Z")
> [@mnemosyne](#): > > We took a trip to Scotland and while driving around we noticed a town called Forfar, in Fife, north of the Firth of Forth. I hope you were listening to Firth of Fifth by Genesis at the time. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6335 "2025-07-05T01:37:47Z")
[Yet another datapoint showing the felon is antisemitic.](https://www.aol.com/trump-said-didnt-know-offensive-132759991.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — President [Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/people/donald-trump/) says he didn’t know the term “shylock” is considered antisemitic when he used it in a speech to describe unscrupulous moneylenders. > > Trump told reporters early Friday after returning from an event in Iowa that he had “never heard it that way” and “never heard that” the term was considered an offensive stereotype about Jews. Why would _this_ be the _one_ antisemitic slur he’s never heard of. And let’s remember how often he’s posted he’s “never heard” of things he’s provably heard of quite often. [Deadly storms in New Jersey](https://www.aol.com/deadly-storm-leaves-path-chaos-153115294.html), [13 dead in Texas flooding](https://www.aol.com/least-13-fatalities-reported-texas-210230078.html), and [huge wildfire in California](https://www.aol.com/madre-fire-grows-over-50-164254918.html). I wonder which one is going to get federal assistance. [Co-conspirator Hegseth is fucking over Ukraine for shits and giggles, evidently.](https://www.aol.com/news/hegseth-halted-weapons-ukraine-despite-100000226.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > The Defense Department [held up a shipment of U.S. weapons](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pentagon-halts-weapons-shipment-ukraine-concerns-us-stockpile-rcna216358) for Ukraine this week over what officials said were concerns about its low stockpiles. But an analysis by senior military officers found that the aid package would not jeopardize the American military’s own ammunition supplies, according to three U.S. officials. > > The move to halt the weapons shipment blindsided the State Department, members of Congress, officials in Kyiv and European allies, according to multiple sources with knowledge of the matter. > > Critics of the decision included Republicans and Democrats who support aiding Ukraine’s fight against Russia. A leading House Democrat, Adam Smith of Washington, said it was disingenuous of the Pentagon to use military readiness to justify halting aid when the real reason appears to be simply to pursue an agenda of cutting off American aid to Ukraine. > > “We are not at any lower point, stockpile-wise, than we’ve been in the 3½ years of the Ukraine conflict,” Smith, the ranking member of the House Armed Services Committee, told NBC News. > > Smith said that his staff has “seen the numbers” and, without going into detail, that there was no indication of a shortage that would justify suspending aid to Ukraine. > > **Suspending the shipment of military aid to Ukraine was a unilateral step by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, according to three congressional aides and a former U.S. official familiar with the matter. It was the third time Hegseth on his own has stopped shipments of aid to Ukraine, the sources said. In the two previous cases, in February and in May, his actions were reversed days later.** [And the felon _still_ doesn’t know what’s in the Large Lousy Law.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-makes-glaring-error-touts-042048591.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump got a little too excited in his victory lap over the passage of his Big, Beautiful megabill. > > During a Thursday speech in Iowa that kicked off yearlong festivities for America’s 250th birthday, Trump declared that he fulfilled his campaign promise of eliminating taxes on Social Security. > > “Just as I promised, we’re making the Trump tax cuts permanent and delivering no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, and no tax on Social Security for our great seniors,” he said in a rally at the Iowa State Fairgrounds. > > Trump and the [White House](https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/07/no-tax-on-social-security-is-a-reality-in-the-one-big-beautiful-bill/) have repeatedly claimed that the so-called “Big, Beautiful Bill,” which the House sent to the president’s desk after a tight vote, will eliminate taxes on Social Security. But what the measure actually does is provide a temporary tax deduction for certain groups. [The felon still wants to be a war ~~time president~~ criminal.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-says-trump-plan-resettle-190102865.html) > [@](#): > > The Israeli government said Thursday that [Donald Trump’s plan to relocate](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gaza-invasion-war-netanyahu-trump-b2745497.html) nearly two million Palestinians from Gaza is “still active,” despite widespread opposition from U.S. allies and warnings from rights groups that it would constitute a war crime. > > “President Trump has made clear that plan is most definitely still active,” Israeli government spokesperson David Mencer said in response to a question from _The Independent_ about the plan’s status. And you thought _1984_ had perfected doublespeak. Hahahahaha! (Same link.) > [@](#): > > “President Trump has long advocated for creative solutions to improve the lives of Palestinians, including allowing them to resettle in a new, beautiful location while Gaza rebuilds,” White House Deputy Press Secretary Anna Kelly said. [Cruella de Vile authorizes “waterborne barrier” in the Rio Grande.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/kristi-noem-approves-waiver-17-210047897.html) > [@](#): > > Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem signed a waiver speeding along a “waterborne barrier” between Texas and Mexico. > > The [barrier](https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/dhs-issues-waiver-ensure-rapid-construction-waterborne-barriers) will span 17 miles along the border in Cameron County, which includes Brownsville, according to a press release. The funding is “planned for award” by the end of FY 2025. > > Noem has “waiver authority” under federal [law](https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/04/08/2025-05992/determination-pursuant-to-section-102-of-the-illegal-immigration-reform-and-immigrant-responsibility) to sidestep “any legal requirement” to build “physical barriers and roads” – [including](https://www.epa.gov/nepa/what-national-environmental-policy-act) the National Environmental Policy Act, calling projects under the waiver “critical steps to ensure the southern border.” Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the last waterborne barrier get some folks killed what with it having concertina wire (a rather vicious weapon using razor blades instead of barbs on the wire–it’s a rather vicious weapon). [Federal judge tells the Second Felonial Era felons to shut the fuck up.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-orders-government-stop-making-203025642.html) > [@](#): > > The judge presiding over the criminal case against[Kilmar Abrego Garcia](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kilmar-abrego-garcia-suffered-psychological-physical-torture-el-salvad-rcna216685) in Tennessee directed both sides Thursday to stop making public statements about the case after defense lawyers argued the government was depriving him of his right to a fair trial by making inflammatory comments. > > Attorneys for Abrego — who was [erroneously deported](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/trump-claims-kilmar-abrego-garcia-returned-us-administration-said-othe-rcna203734) and later hit with [human smuggling charges](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kilmar-abrego-garcia-pleads-not-guilty-human-smuggling-charges-rcna212679)— had asked U.S. District Judge Waverly D. Crenshaw to hand down the order, arguing the government had been routinely violating a local rule barring comments that could be prejudicial. > > "For months, the government has made extensive and inflammatory extrajudicial comments about Mr. Abrego that are likely to prejudice his right to a fair trial. These comments continued unabated — if anything they ramped up — since his indictment in this District, making clear the government’s intent to engage in a ‘trial by newspaper,’” the defense filing said. Any competent judge will realize by now there is no way for Garcia to receive a fair trial. And that’s solely because of the felon and his co-conspirators’ words and actions. [And here’s another case where the felon and his co-conspirators ~~have hookers~~ urinate all over ~~the felon~~ the constitution.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/stateless-north-texas-woman-released-161128813.html) > [@](#): > > Ward Sakeik, a 22-year-old Arlington [newlywed detained by Immigration and Customs Enforcement](https://www.star-telegram.com/opinion/bradford-william-davis/article308923550.html), was released from detention this week after more than 120 days in custody. > > Sakeik was released from a Prairieland Detention Center on Tuesday, the Council on American-Islamic Relations said in a news release. She was detained in February after [returning to Texas from her honeymoon](https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-dfw-to-hold-emergency-news-conference-about-palestinian-newlywed-facing-deportation-tonight-to-undisclosed-location/) in the U.S. Virgin Islands with her husband, Taahir Shaikh, and she has said that ICE planned to deport her to the border of Israel. > > As a Palestinian born a refugee in Saudi Arabia, [Sakeik is “stateless,”](https://www.cair.com/press_releases/cair-cair-dfw-welcomes-release-of-palestinian-woman-detained-by-ice-while-returning-from-honeymoon/) meaning that she is not a recognized citizen in any country. Her family came to the U.S. on a visa when she was 8. After the expiration, her family applied for asylum in six countries and was denied entry from each of them. > > Sakeik grew up in Dallas after ICE issued an order of supervision, which allowed her family to stay, she said. She met 28-year-old Shaikh, a U.S. citizen, in Texas. > > Sakeik had applied for a green card before the honeymoon, complied with the restrictions of the order by traveling on U.S. land and had a “spotless compliance record,” according to the CAIR news release. She complied with the legal requirements. She traveled from one point in the Untied States to another. The issue is a rather hidebound interpretation of leaving and entering the United States as she traveled over international waters to get to the U.S. Virgin Islands for her honeymoon. Read the rest of the article for how she and others in custody were treated. [Finally, the felon has some choice words to “celebrate” our nation’s independence.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-kicks-off-celebration-america-094531028.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump declared his hatred for his political opponents during a supposedly bipartisan celebration of the 250th anniversary of America’s independence. > > Taking to the lectern behind thick bulletproof glass in Des Moines, Iowa, on Thursday, Trump immediately started firing off political potshots. “They wouldn’t vote only because they hate Trump, but I hate them, too, you know?” Trump said, referring to Democrats who voted against his “Big Beautiful Bill,” which the House sent to the president’s desk [after a tight vote.](https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-just-made-history-as-trump-scrambles-to-pass-his-bill/) > > “I really do. I hate them. I cannot stand them, because I really believe they hate our country.” > > His tone was strange given that the event, on the eve of July 4, was organized as a non-political celebration. Trump’s liaison to the organizing group, America250, said that it was designed to bring Americans together. Ain’t he such a great representation of all that makes America great? What the everloving fuck? _You may have noticed, shall we say, a decided shift in my word choice in this post. That’s because, with the latest stunts connected with what should be one of the most joyous days in our country’s annual calendar, the felon and the rest of the Second Felonial Era have shown all they care about is themselve and how to inflict harm on others. Therefore all gloves are off._\* ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6336 "2025-07-05T02:43:00Z")
> [@](#): > > “I really do. I hate them. I cannot stand them, because I really believe they hate our country.” JFC. I know nothing’s going to happen, but can he not talk about how much he hates Democrats literally weeks after what just happened in Minnesota? What the actual fuck?! He’s trying to get people killed. Cue the next nutjob, braindead, extremist, loser who wants to write his name in the history books with a list of prominent Democrats in his pocket. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6337 "2025-07-05T02:58:07Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > He’s trying to get people killed. You left out an adverb. **He’s _still_ trying to get people killed.** ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6338 "2025-07-05T03:20:13Z")
And this is the guy who will lead our celebrations next year for the USA’s 250th. Dear Lord. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6339 "2025-07-05T03:30:07Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > The ‘tipping point’ happened decades ago. But every judge is apparently bought off. As is most of congress. Not sure WE THE PEOPLE can recover from this. It wasn’t judges or congress who put the bastard back in office for a second term, it was too many of we the people either actively _for_ such injustice or wanted cheaper eggs badly enough they didn’t care about it. What sort of judicial guardrail can stand against that? As always, this Independence Day I pulled the _1776_ DVD down from the shelf. It is still playing as I write this. One part particularly struck me during the song, “Cool Considerate Men.” The song pauses for John Dickinson to ask, Mr. Hancock, you’re a man of property. One of us. Why don’t you join us in our minuet? Why do you persist in dancing with John Adams? Good Lord, sir, you don’t even like him! **John Hancock:** [sings] That is true, he annoys me quite a lot, But still, I’d rather trot to Adams’ new gavotte **Dickinson:** [spoken] Why? For personal glory? For a place in history? Be careful, sir, history will brand him and his followers as traitors. **Edward Rutledge:** Traitors, Mr. Dickinson, to what: The British Crown, or the British half-crown? Fortunately, there’s not enough men with property in America to dictate policy. **Dickinson:** Perhaps not, but don’t forget that most men with nothing would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich than face the reality of being poor. And that is why they will follow us… ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6340 "2025-07-05T04:09:41Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > I know nothing’s going to happen, but can he not talk about how much he hates Democrats literally weeks after what just happened in Minnesota? What the actual fuck?! He’s trying to get people killed. Of course he is; the Republicans have been pushing stochastic terrorism like that for decades now. Heck, Trump himself called for a “Second Amendment solution” to deal with Hillary Clinton. It’s _normal_ for them to call for the death of their opponents. People have just been trying hard to pretend otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2025, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6341 "2025-07-05T06:20:24Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > And this is the guy who will lead our celebrations next year for the USA’s 250th. And what makes you think we’re still going to have independence then now that SCOTUS _and_ a pliant compliant congress have essentially ordained him Nehemiah Scudder? > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Dear Lord. Yes, that’s exactly who he thinks he is. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=313) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=315)