# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 317
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6382 "2025-07-09T00:25:37Z")
Sort of like _Ender’s Game,_ but for fascist America? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6383 "2025-07-09T02:42:05Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins says 34 million able bodied people on Medicaid will be sent into the fields to replace deported migrant farmwokers. And I thought I was just joking about _Swindler’s List_. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6384 "2025-07-09T03:21:51Z")
Wait!? Who’s going to rake the forests? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6385 "2025-07-09T05:09:38Z")
[I guess we can now stop pretending the United States has three branches of government.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-supreme-court-lifts-order-194015482.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday cleared the way for [Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/people/donald-trump/)’s administration to pursue mass government job cuts and the sweeping downsizing of numerous agencies, a decision that could lead to tens of thousands of layoffs while dramatically reshaping the federal bureaucracy. > > Tuesday’s ruling stemmed from an executive order Trump issued in February ordering agencies to prepare for mass layoffs. At Trump’s direction, the administration has come up with plans to reduce staff at the U.S. Departments of Agriculture, Commerce, Health and Human Services, State, Treasury, Veterans Affairs and more than a dozen other agencies. > > In a brief unsigned order, the court said the Trump administration was “likely to succeed” in its argument that his directives were legally within his power. That’s quite the nifty trick, isn’t it? Stack the court, and then the court says, “Hey, we’re stacked and will probably rule in his favor, so sod off!” [I wonder if someone told her what I call Cruella de Vile.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/kristi-noem-guts-ice-oversight-152604639.html) > [@](#): > > As Donald Trump has rapidly expanded immigration enforcement, he and his administration have also begun stripping government oversight—and people are already dying, according to a report published by [CNN](https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/08/politics/homeland-security-watchdog-cuts) Tuesday. > > Court [documents](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.279883/gov.uscourts.dcd.279883.1.0_1.pdf) filed in April as part of a lawsuit against the Trump administration revealed that the Trump administration effectively shuttered three watchdog organizations at the Department of Homeland Security. Employees at the Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, or CRCL; the Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman, or CISOMB; and the Office of the Immigration Detention Ombudsman, or OIDO, were abruptly suspended in March and given a separation date of May 23. > > Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s budget requests for the fiscal year 2026, zeroed out the OIDO budget. The Trump administration has claimed that the budget request was merely a recommendation from the president, according to CNN. & > [@](#): > > At least 12 people have [already died](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-border-czar-gruesome-response-204257312.html) in ICE custody so far this year, the same number that died in all of 2024. Administration officials have [brushed off](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-border-czar-gruesome-response-204257312.html) these deaths as business as usual, but Michelle Brané, a former Immigration Detention Ombudsman, told CNN that the death toll “could be much higher.” [And how are things going at Alligator Auschwitz?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-water-bath-detainees-describe-164820017.html) > [@](#): > > Detainees being held at the newly opened “[Alligator Alcatraz](https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-building-alligator-alcatraz-undocumented-122650311.html)” detention center in [Florida](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/florida) say conditions are dire, with scarce food, no water to bathe, and constant bright lights making it difficult to sleep. > > Leamsy “La Figura” Izquierdo, a Cuban artist who was arrested in Miami last week,[told CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/alligator-alcatraz-detainees-allege-inhumane-conditions-at-immigration-detention-center/) he was moved to the[detention facility in the Everglades](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-taunts-detained-migrants-212902680.html) on Friday along with what he claims are more than 400 other detainees. Since then, Izquierdo says, he and other detainees have been treated poorly. > > “There’s no water to take a bath, it’s been four days since I’ve taken a bath,” Izquierdo said. & > [@](#): > > Another detainee, an unnamed Colombian man, said his mental health was deteriorating without access to his medication and Bible. > > “I’m on the edge of losing my mind. I’ve gone three days without taking my medicine," he told CBS. “It’s impossible to sleep with this white light that’s on all day.” > > “They took the Bible I had and they said here there is no right to religion. And my Bible is the one thing that keeps my faith, and now I’m losing my faith,” he added. [The felon has an “interesting” take on the Epstein case.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-shrugs-off-questions-over-170543161.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump on Tuesday shrugged off questions around [a new Justice Department memo](https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/07/politics/jeffrey-epstein-suicide-client-list-justice?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) about accused sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, calling them “a desecration.” > > “Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy’s been talked about for years,” Trump said during a Cabinet meeting after a reporter directed a question to Attorney General Pam Bondi, who’s been the subject of MAGA blowback after the Justice Department said on Monday there is no evidence Epstein kept a “client list” or was murdered. > > “You’re asking – we have Texas, we have this, we have all of the things, and are people still talking about this guy? This creep? That is unbelievable,” Trump said, referring to the devastating flooding in Texas. “I mean, I can’t believe you’re asking a question on Epstein at a time like this, where we’re having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration.” [Do you think this choice is because the felon wants to take revenge on the courts for daring to convict him?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/prosecutors-torch-trump-worst-conceivable-173751974.html) > [@](#): > > A group of former federal prosecutors have declared President Donald Trump’s one-time criminal defense attorney the “worst conceivable nominee” for a lifetime federal judgeship. > > The attack on Trump’s nomination of Emil Bove, currently a top Justice Department official installed by the president, came in a letter the prosecutors sent to the Senate Monday, [according](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/07/08/prosecutors-oppose-bove-judge-nomination/) to _The Washington Post_. > > The letter said that Bove “has demonstrated a willingness to ignore his oath to the Constitution and to disregard the Rule of Law in an effort to conform to every possible whim of the President.” Or it could be he’s a lickspittle. My money’s on both. [The felon’s still claiming credit for the accomplishments of others.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-taking-credit-biden-biggest-170649624.html) > [@](#): > > A website set up by the White House to brag about corporate investments under Trump appears to take credit for over $1 trillion of deals initiated by the Biden administration. > > Just hours after taking office in January, President Trump [boasted](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-makes-embarrassing-gaffe-while-bragging-about-steel-deal/) about attracting $3 trillion worth of corporate investments to the U.S. Since then, Trump has claimed that number has swelled to over $14 trillion - Nearly half of the country’s entire annual GDP. > > The White House set up a website to track these investments, which it has labelled “[The Trump Effect](https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/06/trump-effect-a-running-list-of-new-u-s-investment-in-president-trumps-second-term/).” But a [study from Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-effect-website-takes-credit-us-investment-made-under-biden-2025-07-08/) has revealed that of the $2.6 trillion in investments listed on the site—already significantly below Trump’s vastly inflated estimate—nearly half of them originate from deals and initiatives put into place by Joe Biden. [Stuck in traffic? Now you know whome to blame!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/stephen-miller-now-yelling-immigrants-091931300.html) (I bet you know already, don’t you?) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller has come up with a new line of attack to [demonize migrants](https://www.yahoo.com/news/stephen-miller-melts-down-over-105724588.html): traffic. > > “Why is it that Democrats are so insistent that unlimited numbers of illegals from countries that are incapable of managing their own affairs come here? Countries like Somalia, countries like Haiti, countries that have no history of successful self-government, they want unlimited numbers of illegals and refugees from those countries to come here?” Miller told Fox News’ _Jesse Watters Primetime_. > > “What has it done to our schools? What has it done to our hospitals? **What has it done to just traffic in our cities?”** [The felon needs a fiefdom!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-hes-looking-federal-234856312.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump said Tuesday he’s weighing a federal takeover of Washington, D.C., spouting bogus claims about rampant crime in the nation’s capital, and hinted he could pursue the same with New York City. > > Trump, who [first floated the idea in February](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-washington-dc-take-over_n_67b6a683e4b050f805a0f3d6), brought up the takeover in the Oval Office when a reporter asked him who he thinks Republicans should support in the upcoming New York mayoral race. Trump said he’s “not getting involved” but went on to slam Democratic nominee Zohran Mamdani as a “disaster” and “communist” who would be bad for the city. > > **“We have tremendous power at the White House to run places when we have to,” Trump then said before disclosing he’s already “testing” a plan to take over Washington.** > > **“We’re thinking about doing it, to be honest with you. We want to. We want a capital that’s run flawlessly,” he said.** > > **“We could run D.C. I mean, we’re looking at D.C. We don’t want crime in D.C. We want the city to run well,” he also said, adding that the city’s mayor, Democrat Muriel Bowser, is “working very closely” with White House chief of staff Susie Wiles.** Read the rest of the article to see how accurate his assertions are about the city. Or you could just go with your gut on that. [And now we know exactly why Papa Putin and Fiddler Xi have no fear of the petulant toddler.](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-said-threatened-bomb-moscow-010024474.html) > [@](#): > > Donald Trump told a private gathering of donors last year that he once sought to deter Russian President Vladimir Putin from attacking Ukraine by threatening to “bomb the sh\*t out of Moscow” in retaliation, according to audio provided to CNN. > > “With Putin I said, ‘If you go into Ukraine, I’m going to bomb the sh\*t out of Moscow. I’m telling you I have no choice,’” Trump said during one 2024 fundraiser, according to the audio. “And then [Putin] goes, like, ‘I don’t believe you.’ But he believed me 10%.” > > Trump later claimed he relayed a similar warning to Chinese President Xi Jinping over a potential invasion of Taiwan, telling him that the US would bomb Beijing in response. > > “He thought I was crazy,” Trump said of Xi, before noting that “we never had a problem.” They know it’s not going to happen. They knew then. They know it now. They also know he’s incompetent, corrupt, full of bluster, and nothing more than a con (your choice for the tail end of that word: man/vict). Do you know what a barker is? He talks loudly, makes outrageous claims, and does this to get money. (Same link, my **bolding** ) > [@](#): > > **The audio shows a more unleashed side of Trump that he was willing to reveal behind closed doors to appeal to wealthy donors** – when he talked about not only his at-times aggressive foreign policy strategy, but also deporting student protestors and his opinion that “the welfare people” will always vote for Democrats. [Maybe the felon’s also a _Star Trek_ fan.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-embarrassing-typo-tariff-letter-025809112.html) > [@](#): > > On Sunday, Trump revealed his administration would send out around a dozen warning letters this week, stating that tariffs for their respective countries would be reinstated if a trade deal with the U.S. was not negotiated by the deadline of August 1. > > On his Truth Social account on Monday, Trump started posting the letters in full, complete with his familiar scrawled signature. > > It didn’t go quite to plan. Despite correctly referring to Željka Cvijanović, the Chairwoman of the Presidency of Bosnia and Herzegovina as “Her Excellency,” the letter to her begins with “Dear Mr President.” I hope he sent one to King Charles III with the same salutation. I’m also wondering what would be in such a letter to his lover, Kim Jong Un. Go ahead. Write what you think it would be. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6386 "2025-07-09T09:21:10Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins says 34 million able bodied people on Medicaid will be sent into the fields to replace deported migrant farmwokers. This ninny thinks that seasonal/migrant farmworkers that follow the crops that need harvested get health insurance? They’re lucky to be provided with water. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6387 "2025-07-09T10:49:28Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > This ninny thinks that seasonal/migrant farmworkers that follow the crops that need harvested get health insurance? She thinks they’re lazy _ **and** _ they’re stealing jobs from Americans. Do you expect sense from such an individual? ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6388 "2025-07-09T10:55:06Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins says 34 million able bodied people on Medicaid will be sent into the fields to replace deported migrant farmwokers. If there’s one thing worse than migrant farmworkers, it’s migrant farmwokers. Go farmwoke, go farmbroke. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6389 "2025-07-09T10:57:25Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > This ninny thinks that seasonal/migrant farmworkers that follow the crops that need harvested get health insurance? The idea that “illegals” are consuming huge amounts of social services is a longstanding fantasy of the Right. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6390 "2025-07-09T12:54:34Z")
I think what she is proposing is that we deport 40% of all farm workers because they are undocumented. Then we tell the 34 million US citizens who are able-bodied yet still on Medicaid that they have to work in the fields to keep their Medicaid benefits. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6391 "2025-07-09T12:57:14Z")
I think all of you are misunderstanding Rollins plan. It isn’t that illegals will get health insurance, it’s that all of the illegals will be deported, but will be replaced by shiftless Americans who right now are sucking off the welfare Medicaide teet, but who thanks to the new work requirements will be forced to get up off their lazy butts and so can work in the fields like their ancestors. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6392 "2025-07-09T13:03:04Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > but who thanks to the new work requirements will be forced to get up off their lazy butts and so can work in the fields like their ancestors. Now, how many of those 34 million live within driving distance of the farms? There’s a reason why migrant farm workers are called _migrant_ farm workers. They travel a lot to follow the work as the agricultural season progresses. Of course, I don’t expect any of these MAGA chuckleheads to have actually thought through the logistics of their “plan”. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6393 "2025-07-09T13:24:37Z")
Sounding more and more like North Korea. Well, a fledgling North Korea. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6394 "2025-07-09T13:31:07Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Now, how many of those 34 million live within driving distance of the farms? > > There’s a reason why migrant farm workers are called _migrant_ farm workers. They travel a lot to follow the work as the agricultural season progresses. Of course, I don’t expect any of these MAGA chuckleheads to have actually thought through the logistics of their “plan”. I’m by most accounts a healthy 6’3" 220lb. guy. I’m 64 years old. Now, when I was in my 20’s I could and have done that kind of shit work. Currently, I struggle to mow my grass when it’s hot out. I took my dog for an early walk at 5:30am because it’s supposed to be 100 degrees today. My dog would not like it either. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6395 "2025-07-09T13:36:24Z")
> Khmer Rouge ideology stated that the only acceptable lifestyle was that of poor agricultural workers. Factories, hospitals, schools and universities were shut down. Lawyers, doctors, teachers, engineers and qualified professionals in all fields were thought to be a threat to the new regime. [**SOURCE**](https://hmd.org.uk/learn-about-the-holocaust-and-genocides/cambodia/khmer-rouge-ideology/) But Trump has aligned himself with that ‘intertwining of government and religion’ flavor of fascism. Other than that … ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6396 "2025-07-09T13:47:41Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > But Trump has aligned himself with that ‘intertwining of government and religion’ flavor of fascism I believe that’s called _Nehemia Scudder fascism_. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6397 "2025-07-09T14:47:05Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Now, how many of those 34 million live within driving distance of the farms? For that matter, how many of them already have _other jobs_? From [here](https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/regulatory/kff-two-thirds-medicaid-enrollees-are-employed): > [@](#): > > In 2023, 44% of Medicaid enrollees under the age of 65 were employed full-time, according to the report. An additional 20% were working part-time. > > Just 8% of enrollees were unemployed because they were retired, unable to find work or for other reasons. Ten percent were not working because of an illness or disability, while 12% were unemployed because they were serving as a caregiver. > > Seven percent were not working because they were in school, according to the report. > > […] > > Of people who were working part-time, 22% said it was due to personal or family obligations, while 16% said it was for the shorter work week. Fourteen percent said they were only working part-time as they were also in school or another training program, and 12% cited slack work or business conditions. > > For people who were working, just under half (46%) were employed by small businesses with 50 or fewer employees where they were not eligible for insurance through their work. Companies of this size are not subject to penalties under the Affordable Care Act for not offering coverage. I suppose amongst those there are a tiny quantity willing and able to work, but whether the new farmwork “opportunities” will turn out to be anywhere near them seems unlikely. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6398 "2025-07-09T15:04:30Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > For people who were working, just under half (46%) were employed by small businesses with 50 or fewer employees where they were not eligible for insurance through their work. Companies of this size are not subject to penalties under the Affordable Care Act for not offering coverage. Seems to me, if they really did want to reduce dependence upon Medicaid, this might be an easy way to address it. One small change to the ACA could reduce the number using Medicaid by quite a bit. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6399 "2025-07-09T18:35:09Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “Why is it that Democrats are so insistent that unlimited numbers of illegals from countries that are incapable of managing their own affairs come here? > …\… > “What has it done to our schools? What has it done to our hospitals? **What has it done to just traffic in our cities?”** **That’s** the problem: all those illegals are coming over _with their cars_! 🤦🏽‍♂️ And **why** do they all bring their cars? > [@Horatius](#): > > Now, how many of those 34 million live within driving distance of the farms? Because they have to _drive to work!_ Use your heads, sheeple! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6400 "2025-07-09T20:27:05Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > 12% were unemployed because they were serving as a caregiver. And the high cost of healthcare _to include_ professional caregivers, of course, has exactly zero to do with this, no doubt. > [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Seven percent were not working because they were in school, according to the report. With the new definition of full-tme student, this one’s a no brainer. Quite a lot of opeople will need to drop out of school because they cannot pursue both education _ **and survival** _ at the same time now. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6401 "2025-07-09T23:08:12Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Now, how many of those 34 million live within driving distance of the farms? Not to worry, they can all commute from the federal lands that Trump was going to open up to solve the affordable housing crisis. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=316) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=318)