# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 344
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 9:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6922 "2025-07-30T09:39:40Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > Protecting the right of Jews to convince others that their religion is correct? That’s like protecting the right of Jews to eat ham sandwiches. I wouldn’t be surprised if he decided to do that very thing, mandating Reform as the only acceptable version of Judaism. After all, he’s already declared how Jews should act (or was it vote?). ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6923 "2025-07-30T12:06:57Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I wouldn’t be surprised if he decided to do that very thing, mandating Reform as the only acceptable version of Judaism. He’s more likely to do the opposite: > **[The Religious Liberty Commission's Coming Attack on (Non-Orthodox) Jews](https://dsadevil.blogspot.com/2025/05/the-religious-liberty-commissions.html?m=1)** > > Donald Trump has named a set of appointees to his newly formed Religious Liberty Commission. This article does a good job covering much of t... ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6924 "2025-07-30T12:08:05Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I wouldn’t be surprised if he decided to do that very thing, mandating Reform as the only acceptable version of Judaism. Given how the administration has acted so far I think Reform Judaism would be seen as far too liberal. Nope, if there’s going to be an “official” Judaism it will be either Orthodox or Conservative. Trump is probably completely unaware of Reconstructionist, Sephardic, Mizrahim, or Beta Judaism ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6925 "2025-07-30T13:25:12Z")
@Q.Q.Switcheroo @Broomstick Right. I completely forgot his son-in-law is Orthodox. Let’s start this update with a bang! [The felon’s top acolyte said something that’s going to freak the felon out.](https://www.aol.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-calls-crisis-174246284.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON − Rep. [Marjorie Taylor Greene](https://www.yahoo.com/news/bait-switch-rep-marjorie-taylor-195738267.html), R-Georgia, said there is a “genocide” happening in Gaza, becoming the first Republican lawmaker to use the term to describe the [ongoing humanitarian crisis](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/israel-pauses-military-action-gaza-145216450.html) in the enclave. > > “It’s the most truthful and easiest thing to say that Oct 7th in Israel was horrific and all hostages must be returned, but so is the genocide, humanitarian crisis, and starvation happening in Gaza,” Greene wrote [on X](https://x.com/RepMTG/status/1950000279593607551). > > Hers is an uncommon statement in a caucus that has rallied around Israel since October 2023, when Hamas attacked Israel, killing 1,200 people and taking 251 hostages. [Down dooby doo down down](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-approval-rating-sinks-40-203315680.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) -U.S. President Donald Trump’s approval rating dropped one percentage point to 40%, the lowest level of his second term in office, as Americans remained concerned about his handling of the economy and immigration, a Reuters/Ipsos poll found. > > The three-day poll, which closed on Monday, surveyed 1,023 U.S. adults nationwide and had a margin of error of 3 percentage points. It showed a nation deeply polarized over Trump, with 83% of Republicans and just 3% of Democrats approving of his performance. About one-third of independents approved. > > Trump had a 41% approval rating in Reuters/Ipsos’ most recent prior poll, conducted on July 15 and 16. 🎼 Down, dooby do, down, down. 🎼 😆 [Co-conspirator, accomplice, and fellow incompetent to the felon is seeking to escape.](https://www.aol.com/news/pete-hegseth-discussed-running-political-003003334.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has privately discussed the idea of running for political office next year in Tennessee, according to two people who have spoken directly with him about it. > > If Hegseth were to follow through on the discussions, it would amount to a major leadership shake-up at the department that oversees the American military and millions of federal employees. The Defense Department [bars civilian employees](https://dodsoco.ogc.osd.mil/Portals/102/Documents/Political%20Activities%20Docs/2024%20Political%20Activity%20Guidance%20Civilian%20Further%20Restricted.pdf?ver=xlWKElSM6zGxH-RbnePHXQ%3d%3d) from running for political office, meaning Hegseth would have to resign to do so. > > In a statement, Sean Parnell, the Pentagon’s chief spokesman, said, “Hegseth’s focus remains solely on serving under President Trump.” > > One of the people said their discussion with Hegseth happened within the past three weeks and that it was serious, not simply spitballing ideas. The other person, who also characterized it as serious, wouldn’t say when they had spoken — except that it was since Hegseth became defense secretary in January. The two sources, along with others in this article, were granted anonymity to speak candidly. > > The discussions centered on what it would take to run. One person said they discussed the eligibility requirements to run for governor of Tennessee and Hegseth’s chances of winning. The other person said they talked with Hegseth about the realities of a campaign. > > The people who have spoken with Hegseth said he has specifically mentioned a possible campaign for governor in Tennessee, [where he lives](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/05/us/hegseth-church-crusades.html). **The state has an open race for governor next year, though there are eligibility requirements for candidates that Hegseth might not meet.** And here are the eligibility issues. (Same link) > [@](#): > > [Tennessee law](https://sos.tn.gov/elections/guides/qualifying-procedures-for-tennessee-governor) says candidates for governor must have lived in the state for seven years before the election. [Hegseth](https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2024/11/13/trump-defense-secretary-pete-hegseth-nashville-tennessee/76253402007/) [moved to the state](http://cnn.com/2024/11/13/media/pete-hegseth-fox-news-trump-defense-secretary) around three years ago; public records show that his name is linked to a suburban Nashville address last sold in the middle of 2022. > > Tennessee Republican Party bylaws also have a series of requirements for Republican primary candidates, including having voted in three of the last four most recent statewide Republican primary elections in which the candidate is eligible to vote. There have been statewide Republican primaries in Tennessee in 2022 and 2024. I foresee him doing a test run, and then emulating his idol by taking it to the courts to have those eligibility requirements modified. You heards it here first, folks! [Isn’t this latest attack on negating our system of checks and balances just overkill?](https://www.aol.com/news/republicans-confirm-former-trump-lawyer-010407842.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — The Republican-led Senate voted Tuesday to confirm Emil Bove as a judge on the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, granting a lifetime appointment to [President Donald Trump](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump)’s former personal lawyer. > > **He was confirmed 50-49, with only Republican votes, as they set aside allegations from three whistleblowers about the conduct of Bove, a [Justice Department](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department) official, which include accusations that he flouted laws and Justice Department procedures.** [And we have a new CDC director.](https://www.aol.com/susan-monarez-confirmed-cdc-director-235500108.html) > [@](#): > > The U.S. Senate voted Tuesday along party lines, 51 to 47, to confirm Susan Monarez as the new director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. > > President Trump [nominated her](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/susan-monarez-cdc-director-nominee-trump/?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) for the role in March, praising her as “an incredible mother and dedicated public servant” who “understands the importance of protecting our children, our communities, and our future.” And how does she show that understanding? > [@](#): > > “If I’m confirmed as CDC director, I look forward to having technical discussions with the secretary. He has said he values and prioritizes independent thinking and using science to drive decision making,” Monarez replied. “I am an independent thinker, and I am a scientist, and I will welcome the opportunity to share my opinions based on science and evidence with him as he makes some of these very difficult decisions.” So, you got a party line approval after you made a wishy-washy response to avoid offending your new boss. And, wow, are you mistaken in your appraisal of that new boss. Thank heavens you’re not a medical doctor. And here’s a change for the Teeming Millions. I’m going to complain about the Democrats on these confirmation hearings. When are they going to ask straight up: > [@](#): > > Why are you even here? You must know you’re woefully unqualified for this important post. I already know the pubblies don’t care, but the Democrats should at least get that on the record. [The felon continues his inconsistent statements.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-t-explain-discrepancy-between-192400806.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump could not explain the discrepancy between the multiple answers given on his fallout with Jeffrey Epstein and instead resorted to attacking the media for bringing it up. > > The president spoke with reporters while returning to the U.S. on Air Force One on Tuesday, where he was asked about the different responses. > > A reporter pointed out that Trump said on Monday that his falling out with the convicted sex offender stemmed from Epstein taking workers from his business. The White House previously said the disgraced financier was thrown out because he was a creep. > > “Well, maybe they’re the same thing. You know, a little bit of the same thing,” the president shot back. [We don’t need no stinking constitution.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/korean-phd-student-detained-california-004837570.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > A green card holder from South Korea who has lived in the United States since the age of five was taken into government custody by immigration authorities, a spokesperson for the National Korean American Education and Service Consortium (NAKASEC) told ABC News. > > Last Monday, NAKASEC said it received a call to their immigration hotline from a family member of Tae Heung “Will” Kim, stating that he had been taken into Customs and Border Protection (CBP) custody at San Francisco International Airport. > > Kim has been a green card holder since 2011 and has lived in the U.S. for 35 years, since the age of 5 when his family emigrated from South Korea, according to his lawyers. His mother is a U.S. citizen, and he is currently pursuing his PhD at Texas A&M, with an emphasis on creating a vaccine for Lyme Disease. > > Kim, according to his lawyers, had departed the country for two weeks to attend the wedding of his brother in South Korea. > > His case was taken on pro bono by immigration attorney Eric Lee, who said he faced difficulties in reaching his client to speak to him, as well as getting answers from the federal government. > > His case was taken on pro bono by immigration attorney Eric Lee, who said he faced difficulties in reaching his client to speak to him, as well as getting answers from the federal government. > > Lee told ABC News he was finally able to talk to a supervisor at the SFO CBP facility on Saturday, in what he described as a “hostile conversation.” > > **Lee said the official told him it was “not true” that Kim had the right to speak to a lawyer and that was “his policy.” Lee said he asked the official if the constitution applied to his client, and he replied, “No.”** > > A lawyer for Kim said they were not told the reason for Lee’s detention. In a statement, CBP pointed to a past drug charge. His lawyer told ABC News that the statement was the first time they learned the pretext for his detention. > > According to Lee, Kim was charged with possession of a small amount of marijuana in 2011, but he had fulfilled community service. His lawyer was unclear on Kim’s immigration status at the time of the crime. [Let’s throw another pardon at the wall and see if the distraction sticks.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/trump-now-seriously-considering-pardon-013444644.html) > [@](#): > > Donald Trump is heavily weighing giving Sean “Diddy” Combs a full presidential pardon ahead of the [convicted](https://deadline.com/2025/07/sean-diddy-combs-trial-jury-deliberations-1236445676/) Bad Boy Records founder’s sentencing later this year. > > Nearly two months after Trump publicly [entertained the notion of a Diddy pardon](https://www.yahoo.com/news/diddy-pardon-donald-trump-certainly-190303806.html) in an Oval Office gaggle, a comprehensive get out of jail card for Combs is being “seriously considered,” an administration source tells Deadline. > > Additionally, as several associates of the much-accused and currently incarcerated “All About the Benjamins” performer have been pitching the White House, other insiders confirm the topic has leveled up from “just another Trump weave to an actionable event” since Combs was found partially guilty in the his NYC sex-trafficking trial earlier this month. Of course, as a number of parties attest, this being the roller coaster of Trumpworld, any decision on a Combs pardon is in flux until POTUS actually puts his signature on paper. Now I’m wondering if anyone has managed to get a good AI generated image of “Sex Offender” in the felon’s scrawl. Seriously, that’s how he might as well start signing/sharpying/autopenning stuff now. Also, don’t birds of a feather stick together? ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6926 "2025-07-30T13:37:17Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [The felon admits he knows nothing but still blathers on anyway.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-confidently-rants-issue-admits-172603965.html) > > > [@](#): > > > > “If the boats are loaded up with bad people, and they usually are because, you know, other countries don’t send their best; they send people that they don’t want, and that’s stupid people, and they send the people that they don’t want, and I’ve heard that you’ve taken a much stronger stance,” he said. It never fails to amaze me how disparaging Trump is against immigrants when his own immediate ancestors (including his own mother and his grandfather) were immigrants, as was his first wife, current wife, and his in-laws. Although he seemed to have no problem with the refugee white South Africans whom his administration recently gave asylum to…hmmm, what is the common thread here? Despite his blather, it is clear that Trump is not so much against immigrants as the fact that he is a virulent, unrepentant racist. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6927 "2025-07-30T14:01:21Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The Defense Department [bars civilian employees](https://dodsoco.ogc.osd.mil/Portals/102/Documents/Political%20Activities%20Docs/2024%20Political%20Activity%20Guidance%20Civilian%20Further%20Restricted.pdf?ver=xlWKElSM6zGxH-RbnePHXQ%3d%3d) from running for political office, meaning Hegseth would have to resign to do so. Okay, but… what if he didn’t? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6928 "2025-07-30T15:28:17Z")
> [@robby](#): > > Despite his blather, it is clear that Trump is not so much against immigrants as the fact that he is a virulent, unrepentant racist. Well, yes, exactly. As he [famously wondered out loud last year](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/08/trump-immigration-north-europe), during a private fundraising event: “And when I said, you know, ‘Why can’t we allow people to come in from nice countries,’ I’m trying to be nice. Nice countries, you know like Denmark, Switzerland? Do we have any people coming in from Denmark? How about Switzerland? How about Norway?” ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6929 "2025-07-30T16:45:50Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > Protecting the right of Jews to convince others that their religion is correct? That’s like protecting the right of Jews to eat ham sandwiches. I was scratching my head over the right to ‘display a mezuzah’ at work. From what I understand a mezuzah is affixed to the doorpost of their _residence_. Like your ham sandwich they would have no interest in putting one up at their cube entrance at work. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6930 "2025-07-30T16:48:02Z")
Genocide is an awfully big word for MTG. How can we be sure she’s not talking about the stuff being sprayed on crops? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6931 "2025-07-30T17:29:57Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > I was scratching my head over the right to ‘display a mezuzah’ at work. From what I understand a mezuzah is affixed to the doorpost of their _residence_. Like your ham sandwich they would have no interest in putting one up at their cube entrance at work I have seen mezuzah on a place of business owned by someone Jewish, but only with very strictly observant Jews and it’s by no means universal. That sounds to me like someone trying to come with with something Jewish and comparable to a Christian having a Bible on their desk at work rather than from any actual understanding or experience of Orthodox or otherwise very observant Jews in a workplace. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6932 "2025-07-30T17:42:49Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > The Defense Department [bars civilian employees](https://dodsoco.ogc.osd.mil/Portals/102/Documents/Political%20Activities%20Docs/2024%20Political%20Activity%20Guidance%20Civilian%20Further%20Restricted.pdf?ver=xlWKElSM6zGxH-RbnePHXQ%3d%3d) from running for political office, meaning Hegseth would have to resign to do so. > > Okay, but… what if he didn’t? Yeah, that was my thought on reading that. Those laws are for the little people. /s ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6933 "2025-07-30T18:38:52Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > The Declaration of Independence does not have the force of law. It is an important document, but not a legal one. > > It’s the constitution that’s the legal document, and Trump has gotten away with using it as toilet paper. I recall back in February or so, he asked the National Archives for the original DoI to frame and put on the wall in his office. I don’t recall if their reply was NFW or complied with, yet in some (or at least once) Q&A with the press in his office he was talking about some point of law and pointed to a version of the DoI to make his point, whatever it was. Nobody said, “Mr. President, are you using the DoI as your argument about whatever you are blathering about?”. Someone should inform him about the grievances in the DoI that he’s not yet violated so he can get right on it. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6934 "2025-07-30T19:43:06Z")
> [@How has the disgraced, CONVICTED FELON, former but once again President Trump pissed you off today? (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-has-the-disgraced-convicted-felon-former-but-once-again-president-trump-pissed-you-off-today-part-2/1013964/548): > > I decided to pick out a few lines from the [Declaration of Independence](https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript). You know, ones that might apply to Trump. I could have just cut and pasted the whole thing. (Actually, just eyeballing it, it looks like about one third of the list of grievances. [Bullet points added, because I don’t know how to indent in Discourse.] The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny o… There’s only 13 there. I think other people found other grievances that apply, but I don’t have time to look. Anyway, here’s my list: > The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world. … > > - He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good. … > - He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands. > - He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers. > - He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries. > - He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance. … > - He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power. > - He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation: > - For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world: > - For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent: > - For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury: > - For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences: > - … [E]stablishing… an Arbitrary government… > - He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us… Trump is _literally_ doing the very things King George III was doing! And a _lot_ of them! ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6935 "2025-07-30T19:49:02Z")
🎶 “You’ll be back…soon you’ll see…”🎶 ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6936 "2025-07-30T20:29:38Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences: He hasn’t done this one. Close enough, though, I guess. What he has done is transport people across the seas to _be imprisoned by a foreign power **without trial** for pretended offenses._ ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6937 "2025-07-30T20:46:36Z")
And it was one thing for an English colonist in America to be transported to England for trial, and quite another to send American residents to South Sudan. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6938 "2025-07-30T21:18:45Z")
If Trump doesn’t know the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the country to which Republicans have given him charge, it’s because he hasn’t read either of them, and was never smart enough to learn anything in school. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6939 "2025-07-30T21:32:17Z")
And now there is Dimitry Epelboym, a dentist born in Ukraine, whose license was revoked in 2018 after he pleaded guilty to insurance fraud, who wants to sell his house in Brooklyn to prove that he is a match in tastelessness to trump himself, at least concerning architecture and interior design: **[Gift NYT link](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/29/realestate/marble-gold-house-sale-brooklyn.html?unlocked_article_code=1.aU8.Qmzh.eHKrhA-NdFRf&smid=url-share)** It is a close fight for the title of the most tasteless nouveau riche, I am not sure who is winning. See, for example: [![](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2025/07/29/multimedia/29re-exclusive-blondiehouse-02-gvht/29re-exclusive-blondiehouse-02-gvht-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp) ](https://static01.nyt.com/images/2025/07/29/multimedia/29re-exclusive-blondiehouse-02-gvht/29re-exclusive-blondiehouse-02-gvht-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6940 "2025-07-30T21:34:35Z")
Dead serious. I have no idea and cannot even hazard a guess as to whose tacky tasteless decor this is, Epelboym’s or the homegrown felon’s. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/6941 "2025-07-30T21:36:06Z")
Brooklyn, sorry. Will correct. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=343) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=345)