# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![ZenithBlade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/54ee81/32.png) [@ZenithBlade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZenithBlade)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/761 "2025-01-15T03:36:03Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Sadly, ‘we’ as a country elected the convicted felon/con man/Russian asset/liar. As an American who loves his country, I am sullied by the actions of too many of my countrymen.

Correction: a quarter of the country elected an adjudicated rapist, accused child rapist, insurrectionist, grifter, racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, ableist, 34x convicted felon, accused domestic abuser, allegedly kept a copy of hitlers speeches next to his bed, seemingly wants to fuck his daughter, would allegedly sneak backstage into the miss universe ladies dressing rooms, bragged about “grabbing women by the pussy” , notorious for failing to pay his hired workers, contractors, etc, allegedly used illegal immigrants as forced labour to build mar a lago, praised white supremacists, is a wannabe dictator, COVID denier, climate change denier, con man, serial liar, was the head of the “birther” movement, cheated on his wife with a porn star, paid off said pornstar, tried to cover up said affair, antivaxxer, told people to take ivermectin and inject bleach to cure covid, illegally kept classified documents in mar a lago, allegedly showered with his daughter……

(this is just the stuff i remember, and even this fails to scratch the surface)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/762 "2025-01-15T03:51:58Z")

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> [@ZenithBlade](#):
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> Correction: a quarter of the country elected

‘A quarter of the country’ represents the majority.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/763 "2025-01-15T05:19:01Z")

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> [@ZenithBlade](#):
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> this is just the stuff i remember, and even this fails to scratch the surface

It’s at the poiint where the list needs to be in alphabetical order, with an index. Possibly issued in two volumes, like cheap Reader’s Digest Encyclopedias.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/764 "2025-01-15T12:18:08Z")

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> [@ZenithBlade](#):
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> allegedly showered with his daughter……

Guess I missed that one. Sounds about right though.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/765 "2025-01-15T13:18:25Z")

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> [@ZenithBlade](#):
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> …allegedly used illegal immigrants as forced labour to build mar a lago…

He didn’t build Mar-a-Lago.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/766 "2025-01-15T13:20:56Z")

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The allegation was against Joe Biden:

> **[Have Contents of 'Ashley Biden's Diary' Been Verified?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-posts-claim-contents-181600349.html)**
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> The existence of a diary and the authenticity of purported facsimiles of a diary are two entirely different questions.

That’s one that I haven’t seen leveled against Trump, though it wouldn’t shock me in the least.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/767 "2025-01-15T14:07:45Z")

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The Snopes page on the showering allegations bothers me. Yes, Ashley Biden wrote a diary, yes it was stolen by Project Veritas, yes she subsequently verified that the diary as a whole was hers. But has she ever specifically said that the two pages including the showering allegations were part of her diary? They only seem to be presented as individual pages.

Do we have a thread on this somewhere?

> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> He didn’t build Mar-a-Lago.

Although he has been known to [employ illegal immigrants there](https://theweek.com/speedreads/834102/trumps-maralago-resort-quietly-purging-undocumented-employees).

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/768 "2025-01-15T14:21:25Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > [@Yllaria](#):
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> > I could picture learning to like it. I like cheese. I like gravy. Fries are pretty good.
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> Replace the gravy with chili, and it’s better. 😉

And now I want chili cheese fries.

> [@neitherscout](#):
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> the term TDS

Done.

> [@ZenithBlade](#):
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> allegedly used illegal immigrants as forced labour to build mar a lago, praised white supremacists, is a wannabe dictato

ITYM “run Mar a Lago.” Mar a Lago had already been built when he bought it. You can tell - it’s still standing.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/769 "2025-01-15T21:13:22Z")

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And it’s not named after Trump.

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**Author:** ![neitherscout](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@neitherscout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neitherscout)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/770 "2025-01-15T21:35:58Z")

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> [@ZenithBlade](#):
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> Correction: a quarter of the country elected an adjudicated rapist, accused child rapist, insurrectionist, grifter, racist, sexist, homophobe, transphobe, ableist, 34x convicted felon, accused domestic abuser, allegedly kept a copy of hitlers speeches next to his bed, seemingly wants to fuck his daughter, would allegedly sneak backstage into the miss universe ladies dressing rooms, bragged about “grabbing women by the pussy” , notorious for failing to pay his hired workers, contractors, etc, allegedly used illegal immigrants as forced labour to build mar a lago, praised white supremacists, is a wannabe dictator, COVID denier, climate change denier, con man, serial liar, was the head of the “birther” movement, cheated on his wife with a porn star, paid off said pornstar, tried to cover up said affair, antivaxxer, told people to take ivermectin and inject bleach to cure covid, illegally kept classified documents in mar a lago, allegedly showered with his daughter……

I am truly sincere when I say this, but I honestly thought for a moment while glazing over this pile of nonsense - just for a brief moment - that you actually _might_ be talking (albeit sarcastically) about Bill Clinton. Because so many of the adjectives thrown around here apply **very much** to him, starkly so as a matter of fact.

This is one of the things that so confounds me about the way modern day liberals are acting: the profound hypocrisy and seeming lack of self-awareness in the way they talk and behave.

And this incredibly bizarre use of the word “convict” (oftentimes in ALL CAPS) that you people love to constantly throw around, rather like children who have been given a cool new toy. You don’t even have a sense of just how incredibly empty and hypocritical that word sounds to the rest of the country when you people constantly throw it around about Trump. Never mind the fact that everyone else recognizes that almost all the (mostly phony) charges against him came about solely as a result of political warfare against the man by a corrupt and increasingly tyrannical state. Never mind that other presidents (including your Biden) have been guilty of many of the things he was charged of but let off the hook because apparently they weren’t really ‘crimes’ in any meaningful sense. Incidentally, based on your text, it seems that even you do not buy the BS that Trump ‘raped’ that porn ‘star’ whore, but that he merely cheated on his wife with her. I can’t even describe just how remarkable a revelation that is, and just what it says once again about you people.

But the most ridiculous thing about the way you guys keep throwing that term around is the fact that all it does is simply bring to the minds of most people who are fairly objective observers the fact that we literally have other politicians walking around who SHOULD be convicts but are not!! (Apparently because they are members of the establishment.) One obvious example is of course good’ol Slick Willie, who I already mentioned, who is a **serial rapist and adulterer, and assaulter of women** , and possible child molester (given his previous close connections with the late Epstein). And if we really wanted to get into it, we could probably throw in additional terms like ‘money launderer’ and ‘con man’ (through his so-called ‘foundation’), and maybe even ‘murderer’, if we wanted to get conspiratorial.

But you get my point. This name-calling game is one that can _so easily_ be played by all sides that it defies belief that supposedly ‘mature’ people like you are playing it so childishly with such complete absence of any self-awareness or hypocrisy whatsoever.

And speaking of childishness, this nonsense about throwing around the word ‘troll’ simply because someone who doesn’t post often happens to have opinions that are contrary to the status quo within an echo chamber. It’s pretty obvious at this point that there are very few if any rational minded people left here. And this is just a microcosm of what has happened over the past decade or so in America, where dissent has become increasingly suppressed and eradicated from various platforms altogether as the state (and its leftist supporters) become increasingly fascist. But go ahead and call me ‘troll’ all you want, or whatever name makes you feel better.

ETA: Btw, the illogical and puerile nonsense about “no, it was only a quarter of the country” rises to a level of imbecility that beggars belief and doesn’t even deserve an ounce of response.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/771 "2025-01-15T21:43:23Z")

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Trump raped E. Jean Carroll, not Stormy Daniels.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/772 "2025-01-15T21:44:25Z")

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Though it seems Daniels was coerced.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/773 "2025-01-15T21:52:27Z")

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> [@neitherscout](#):
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> Bill Clinton. Because so many of the adjectives thrown around here apply **very much** to him

Really? Which ones on that list?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/774 "2025-01-15T21:53:38Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Which ones on that list?

Well, Clinton WAS elected.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/775 "2025-01-15T22:02:53Z")

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> [@neitherscout](#):
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> Incidentally, based on your text, it seems that even you do not buy the BS that Trump ‘raped’ that porn ‘star’ whore, but that he merely cheated on his wife with her.

Based on _your_ text _you_ are a misogynist who thinks she deserved it. “Whore”, indeed.

As for Trump, Trump is a idiot monster and the people who voted for him are monsters and fools. Without exception.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/776 "2025-01-15T22:13:40Z")

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> [@neitherscout](#):
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> it seems that even you do not buy the BS that Trump ‘raped’ that porn ‘star’ whore

I’m of the opinion that he has never raped his current “porn ‘star’ whore” wife.  
Pics just a Google away.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/777 "2025-01-15T22:28:18Z")

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> [@neitherscout](#):
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> You don’t even have a sense of just how incredibly empty and hypocritical that word sounds to the rest of the country

What “rest of the country”? Have you left Sierra Leone, possibly because of all the Asian t-shirts?

> [@Does anyone know what the deal is behind the recent East Asia trend, especially in media?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/does-anyone-know-what-the-deal-is-behind-the-recent-east-asia-trend-especially-in-media/995638):
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> I’m new here. I regret having to join a message board in order to satisfy my curiosity on a topic, but I just couldn’t find any real discussion of it anywhere (which I find a bit bewildering). I’m not sure exactly when this trend began - somehow I missed out on it (probably due to the fact that I’ve been living in Sierra Leone in recent years) - but there has clearly been a huge upsurge of East Asians (most especially of the Chinese variety) in US media in general. More interestingly, East Asia…

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/778 "2025-01-15T22:32:15Z")

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> [@neitherscout](#):
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> But go ahead and call me ‘troll’ all you want, or whatever name makes you feel better.

You’re so cute! yes you are! Who’s a good trump doggie?

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/779 "2025-01-15T23:02:16Z")

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Well, I’m outta here. Somebody let me know when this guy leaves. 👋🏽

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**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/780 "2025-01-15T23:03:09Z")

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> [@neitherscout](#):
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> But go ahead and call me ‘troll’ all you want, or whatever name makes you feel better.

How about MAGAtrash? That’s such an accurate label.

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