# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7962 "2025-09-07T23:36:41Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And who will he fire this time?

And these numbers came from the replacement at BLS. The real numbers may have been worse.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7963 "2025-09-08T00:15:58Z")

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Kind of makes you wonder how many times they apply the margin of error in recursion, doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7964 "2025-09-08T04:58:24Z")

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This, THIS, IS OUR SECRETARY OF ENERGY. STUPID

[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/2d27b6b9-8def-42f7-8190-0ea8654f49d0) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/2d27b6b9-8def-42f7-8190-0ea8654f49d0)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7965 "2025-09-08T05:15:55Z")

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My educated, logical mind just can’t comprehend a post like that from the Sec Energy. What is his thinking? What is his end game? Are they afraid of change? They bought off by oil companies? I really don’t get it. Makes my head hurt.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7966 "2025-09-08T05:26:42Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> They bought off by oil companies?

I strongly suspect this is the main reason. The fossil fuel industry is running scared.

Fortunately, the entire world has not yet been bought. I’ve been reading that there’s been a huge spike in solar energy installations in much of the world in the last couple years: China, India, Pakistan, Africa (many countries), even Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Europe is still putting in lots, and despite the current Admin, so is the US.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7967 "2025-09-08T05:29:55Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> I strongly suspect this is the main reason. The fossil fuel industry is running scared.

Plus, Wright’s boss has been very vocal in his hatred of alternative energy, in particular wind power, though he’s no fan of solar, either.

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7968 "2025-09-08T05:35:37Z")

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I suspect that boss’s hatred of solar has more to do with money from oil companies than any particular dislike. We know about the offshore wind project near his golf course that engendered his hatred of that, but there’s no known instance where his fee-fees were hurt by solar panels.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7969 "2025-09-08T05:42:33Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> Plus, Wright’s boss has been very vocal in his hatred of alternative energy, in particular wind power, though he’s no fan of solar, either.

You can’t have wind without Sol.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7970 "2025-09-08T05:43:49Z")

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Quite the world when we hope it’s money from oil companies and shudder to think of the other reasons there might be.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7971 "2025-09-08T05:47:30Z")

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> **[Navy reverses demotion of Rep. Ronny Jackson, former White House doctor](https://apnews.com/article/trump-navy-congress-demotion-087ddcbd3b242c33fb838a45b5cc6536)**
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> Rep. Ronny Jackson has announced that the Navy has restored his retired rank of rear admiral. This overturns a 2022 demotion that followed a scathing investigation that found major issues with his behavior while he was the top White House physician.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7972 "2025-09-08T06:02:46Z")

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What a joke. And also an insult to each and every one of us who served honorably and with integrity.

[How is the wannabe laureate going about “earning” the prize he he desires?](https://www.aol.com/decades-long-peace-vigil-outside-172922698.html)

> WASHINGTON (AP) — Law enforcement officials on Sunday removed a peace vigil that had stood outside the White House for more than four decades after President [Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/people/donald-trump/) ordered it to be taken down as part of the clearing of homeless encampments in the nation’s capital.
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> Philipos Melaku-Bello, a volunteer who has manned the vigil for years, told The Associated Press that the Park Police removed it early Sunday morning. He said officials justified the removal by mislabeling the memorial as a shelter.
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> “The difference between an encampment and a vigil is that an encampment is where homeless people live,” Melaku-Bello said. “As you can see, I don’t have a bed. I have signs and it is covered by the First Amendment right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression.”

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7973 "2025-09-08T08:32:08Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> How is the wannabe laureate going about “earning” the prize he he desires?

Well, it makes sense. You don’t need a peace vigil now that Trump has guaranteed world peace for all time!

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7974 "2025-09-08T10:08:14Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> How is the wannabe laureate going about “earning” the prize he he desires?

The Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to some pretty terrible people. Some of whom arguably are even less deserving than Trump, if extensive violence is a key disqualifying criterion.

Which is of course not to say that I think he should get it. But it shouldn’t surprise you too much if he does.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 10:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7975 "2025-09-08T10:18:30Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> You don’t need a peace vigil now that Trump has guaranteed world peace for all time!

So he wins the Miss America Pageant? “What do I want for the world? World peace, of course!”

(Just thinking about the swimsuit competition. I need eye bleach now.)

Seriously, I find it difficult to believe that somebody who changes the name of his country’s military from “Department of Defense” to “Department of War,” who refers to the members of his country’s military as “warfighters,” and who has threatened such inoffensive places as Canada, Greenland, and Panama with military invasion if they do not accede to his demands, could possibly be nominated for the Nobel _Peace_ Prize, much less win it. He’s not peaceful, he is antagonistic, looking for a fight, and I hope the Nobel committee sees that too.

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**Author:** ![Mops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mops/32/16494_2.png) [@Mops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mops)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7976 "2025-09-08T11:17:58Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> ….
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> In the NASA hearing, they praised Trump while attacking his policies of impoundment and staff reductions, as being highly damaging. They used competition with China as the carrot, saying Trump will be the greatest president ever if he allows NASA to get to the moon before the Chinese.
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> Then in the HHS hearing, they praised Trump, saying he deserves the Nobel prize, while openly attacking RFK Jr for carrying out Trump’s policies, and damaging the health of the nation.
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> …
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> Not that opposing his policies is wrong, just the methods that you have to use, are ridiculous. If you were an alien that landed on earth to observe the hearings, with no foreknowledge of events, you would think there is some mysterious entity trying to prevent Trump from doing the right thing. You would never guess it’s Trump’s own policies that are being opposed.
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> …

That’s been the method to address absolute rulers for thousands of years, though - nothing new. You _never_ criticise the Emperor, always his bad advisors.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7977 "2025-09-08T12:09:52Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> who refers to the members of his country’s military as “warfighters,”

It should be mentioned, though, that the term “warfighter” has been used for at least two decades in the DoD, at all levels.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7978 "2025-09-08T13:37:50Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> It should be mentioned, though, that the term “warfighter” has been used for at least two decades in the DoD, at all levels.

And it has sounded overly antagonistic and stupid the whole time, full of macho posturing. I roll my eyes every time I hear the term.

Whatever happened to, “Speak softly and carry a big stick”?

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7979 "2025-09-08T14:11:11Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> The Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to some pretty terrible people. Some of whom arguably are even less deserving than Trump, if extensive violence is a key disqualifying criterion.
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> Which is of course not to say that I think he should get it. But it shouldn’t surprise you too much if he does.

Nobel prizes come out next month. It’s going to be a significant day in catsup-throwing.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7980 "2025-09-08T14:33:29Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> Whatever happened to, “Speak softly and carry a big stick”?

That’s for actual warriors. Chickhawks squawk loudly and pack micodicks.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/7981 "2025-09-08T15:39:55Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Nobel prizes come out next month.

The list of nominees is secret, but is has been revealed that there are 244 individuals and 94 organizations nominated.

> **[Nominations for the Nobel Peace Prize 2025 - Nobel Peace Prize](https://www.nobelpeaceprize.org/press/press-releases/nominations-for-the-nobel-peace-prize-2025)**
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> There are 338 candidates nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for 2025, of which 244 are individuals and 94 are organizations. This is a significant increase from last year.

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