# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 417
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8382 "2025-10-01T00:17:25Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > I still think he pulled the idea of Portland being on fire/terrorized from his TV ass. Seems that I was correct, the guys at TechDirt are reporting that it is very likely that Trump got it from the FOX’s ass. > **[So Donald Trump Is Declaring War On US Cities Based On Fake Fox News Footage...](https://www.techdirt.com/2025/09/30/so-donald-trump-is-declaring-war-on-us-cities-based-on-fake-fox-news-footage-and-nonsense-his-people-tell-him/)** > > Who’s running the country? That question became terrifyingly urgent this weekend when the President of the United States admitted he was preparing to send US military forces into an American … > _So what had Trump seen? Given his_ [_tendency to stay tuned to Fox News_](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/05/trump-media-feedback-loop-216248/) _we can make some educated guesses._ > > _Trump made his pledge to send troops to Portland on Saturday morning. On Friday, Fox News had several segments in which purported violence in the city was shown._ > > _One featured Tricia McLaughlin, a Homeland Security official who often appears on cable shows. As she was discussing an executive order Trump signed, the channel showed b-roll of events in Portland._ > > _Sept. 26, 2025. (Internet Archive)_ > > _You will notice, though, that the footage was not timestamped for any date in September. Instead, they showed an encounter apparently involving tear gas that occurred back in June … and_ _ **footage from protests in July 2020** _ _._ > > _In the next hour, they ran the same playbook. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich was on, talking about how dangerous the left was next to footage of Portland violence from July 2020._ ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8383 "2025-10-01T00:28:22Z")
Well I’m flying to/through Portland; plane change. I’ll report how far out to sea the fires and flames are visible. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8384 "2025-10-01T00:39:55Z")
I’m sitting in the middle of the war zone as we type, and I’m just scared to death that my coffee order may not arrive in time. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8385 "2025-10-01T00:53:07Z")
_I’m going to cross-post the part between the divider lines into the martial law thread._ (Crosspost) [He’s no longer a wannabe dictator. This shows it more than anything else.](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-hegseth-set-meet-hundreds-040954126.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > QUANTICO, Va. (AP) — [President Donald Trump](https://apnews.com/hub/donald-trump) on Tuesday proposed using American cities as training grounds for the armed forces and spoke of needing U.S. military might to combat what he called the “invasion from within.” > > Addressing an [audience of military brass](https://apnews.com/article/pentagon-hegseth-meeting-military-commanders-4ceb8026bff7c652b08c08e8afb1df99) abruptly summoned to Virginia, [Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/people/donald-trump/) outlined a muscular and at times norm-shattering view of the military’s role in domestic affairs. He was joined by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who declared an end to “woke” culture and announced new directives for troops that include “gender-neutral” or [“male-level” standards](https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-military-fitness-infantry-special-operations-247fbd7a4f9d0ba79111194139208fa5) for physical fitness. > > The dual messages underscored the Trump administration’s efforts not only to reshape contemporary Pentagon culture but to enlist military resources for the president’s priorities and for decidedly domestic purposes, including quelling unrest and violent crime. > > **“We should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military,” Trump said. He noted at another point: “We’re under invasion from within. No different than a foreign enemy but more difficult in many ways because they don’t wear uniforms.”** And in more DPRKesque dictatorial fashion, he blathers this tidbit. > [@](#): > > Trump encouraged the audience at the outset of his speech to applaud as they wished. He then added, “If you don’t like what I’m saying, you can leave the room — of course, there goes your rank, there goes your future.” Some laughed. And what was co-conspirator Hegseth’s contribution to this photo op? > [@](#): > > Before Trump took the stage, Hegseth said in his nearly hourlong speech that the military has promoted too many leaders for the wrong reasons, based on race, gender quotas and “historic firsts.” > > “The era of politically correct, overly sensitive don’t-hurt-anyone’s-feelings leadership ends right now at every level,” Hegseth said. That’s telling the assembled career military officers, those who’ve dedicated their entire adult life to serving their country, that “too many” of them do not deserve the rank they hold. They will be cashiered. The only question is how soon that will happen. Speaking of Hegseth’s view of the military, under his stellar leadership, it’s quite likely military suicides will increase. Why do I say this? > [@](#): > > Hegseth said he’s easing disciplinary rules and weakening hazing protections, focusing on removing many of the guardrails the military put in place after numerous scandals and investigations. > > He also said he was ordering a review of “the department’s definitions of so-called toxic leadership, bullying and hazing to empower leaders to enforce standards without fear of retribution or second guessing.” > > He called for changes to "allow leaders with forgivable, earnest or minor infractions to not be encumbered by those infractions in perpetuity.” > > “People make honest mistakes, and our mistakes should not define an entire career,” Hegseth said. > > Bullying and toxic leadership have been the suspected and confirmed causes behind numerous military suicides over the past several years, including of Brandon Caserta, a young sailor who was bullied into killing himself in 2018. Do you recall this old joke? _What’s the difference between the military and the Boy Scouts?_ _The Boy Scouts have adult leadership._ The United States Armed Forces no longer have adult civilian leadership. (/CROSSPOST) Way back near the beginning of this thread, I posted a poll asking what y’all thought was driving how the felon is reigning. One of the options was _to punish the country_. [He’s fucking openly stating that’s what he’s doing.](https://www.aol.com/articles/shutdown-trump-floats-irreversible-cuts-173342481.html) > [@](#): > > With less than 12 hours remaining until a government shutdown, President Donald Trump issued a new warning to Congressional Democrats: he may exploit the funding lapse to make “irreversible” cuts to health care and social benefit programs. > > “They’re taking a risk by having a shutdown. We can do things during the shutdown that are irreversible, that are bad for them and irreversible,” Trump said of Democrats while speaking to reporters in the Oval Office Tuesday afternoon. “Like cutting vast numbers of people out, cutting things that they like, cutting programs that they like.” Yes, I used the word _reigning_ above. It was not an incorrect usage. [The Pope weighs in on the situation in today’s America.](https://www.aol.com/news/pope-leo-criticizes-inhuman-treatment-203734304.html) > [@](#): > > VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Pope Leo on Tuesday appeared to offer his strongest criticism yet of U.S. [President Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/people/donald-trump/)’s hardline immigration policies, questioning whether they were in line with the Catholic Church’s pro-life teachings. > > “Someone who says I am against abortion but I am in agreement with the inhuman treatment of immigrants in the United States, I don’t know if that’s pro-life,” the pontiff told journalists outside his residence in Castel Gandolfo. & > [@](#): > > “Someone who says I am against abortion but says I am in favour of the death penalty is not really pro-life,” said the pope. I’m wondering how soon it will be before the felon calls him _so-called pope_. [And now the felon wants the US Navy to have battleships.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-floats-idea-bringing-back-161921387.html) > [@](#): > > US President Donald Trump suggested that he’s considering bringing back [US Navy battleships](https://www.businessinsider.com/last-remaining-us-navy-battleships-now-serving-as-museums-2024-3?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=yahoo.com), vessels that were retired decades ago, long after the kind of naval combat they were built for had become a thing of the past. > > Battleships were heavily armed naval powerhouses built to slug it out with other warships. During the World Wars, they [dominated the seas](https://www.businessinsider.com/how-us-navy-used-battleships-in-combat-for-nearly-century-2020-12?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=yahoo.com), but by the end of the Cold War, these once mighty warships were completely obsolete. > > Speaking at a high-profile summit with top US military leaders at Marine Corps Base Quantico in Virginia on Tuesday morning, Trump said battleships are on the table. > > “It’s something we’re actually considering,” he said, “the concept of battleship, nice six-inch side, solid steel, not aluminum, aluminum that melts if it looks at a missile coming at it. Starts melting as the missile’s about two miles away. No, those ships, they don’t make them that way anymore.” There’s a reason, you felon, they’re notmade anymore. They’re obsolete, just like you. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8386 "2025-10-01T01:04:18Z")
Crikey! I just called Hegseth ‘Kegsbreath’ on FB eight minutes ago, and 120 people reacted! 😲 ETA: 20 minutes, 200+ reactions. Geez, it was just a one-liner I stole from here! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8387 "2025-10-01T01:10:50Z")
I wish people in the administration had riffable names to the exact extent of their badness. There are lots of names for Trump but I don’t use them because they’re funny, I use them because I want to use his name as little as possible. Whereas there is no end of hilarious names for Secretary Hogshead. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8388 "2025-10-01T01:13:33Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > Whereas there is no end of hilarious names for Secretary Hogshead. This morning, I thought of _Secretary of War(ts, genital that is)_. Needs work, though. Just like he does. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8389 "2025-10-01T01:16:46Z")
Fuck the coffee order, I have a really emergency on my hands. I’m out of weed. The weed store is six blocks away and, wouldn’t you know it, my Kevlar vest is at the cleaners. Lord knows how long it’s going to take me to belly-crawl through Pearl and back. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8390 "2025-10-01T02:05:39Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Crikey! I just called Hegseth ‘Kegsbreath’ on FB eight minutes ago, and 120 people reacted! 😲 > > ETA: 20 minutes, 200+ reactions. Geez, it was just a one-liner I stole from here! How did they react? Yea or nay? I’m not on FB so not up on the options for “reacting”? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8391 "2025-10-01T02:11:32Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’m not on FB so not up on the options for “reacting”? You can choose a thumbs up for Like, a heart for Love, a hugging emoji for Care, a laughing emoji, a shocked face emoji and an angry face. Trying to type around a tuxie with giant double paws insisting on attention. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8392 "2025-10-01T02:19:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > How did they react? Yea or nay? As of right now, 408 likes (👍 ), 188 laughs (😆 ), 12 loves (❤), and 3 cares. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8393 "2025-10-01T02:36:16Z")
Ted Cruz says, ‘Let’s stop attacking pedophiles.’ > **[Ted Cruz Says ‘Let’s Stop Attacking Pedophiles’ in Awkward Gaffe](https://www.thedailybeast.com/ted-cruz-says-lets-stop-attacking-pedophiles-in-awkward-gaffe/)** > > The GOP senator suffered the slip up while railing against Democrats’ crime policies at a Senate hearing Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8394 "2025-10-01T04:26:19Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’m wondering how soon it will be before the felon calls him _so-called pope_. Well, you _know_ who he thinks would be a better one. [![](https://assets-jpcust.jwpsrv.com/thumbnails/7indvynd-720.jpg) ](https://assets-jpcust.jwpsrv.com/thumbnails/7indvynd-720.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8395 "2025-10-01T05:05:57Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > That’s telling the assembled career military officers, those who’ve dedicated their entire adult life to serving their country, that “too many” of them do not deserve the rank they hold. They will be cashiered. The only question is how soon that will happen. They’ll keep a token black or two around, but all the others that aren’t straight, white males are gone. And most likely, none of the tokens will ever get more than two stars. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8396 "2025-10-01T05:40:35Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, who declared an end to “woke” culture and announced new directives for troops that include “gender-neutral” or [“male-level” standards](https://apnews.com/article/hegseth-military-fitness-infantry-special-operations-247fbd7a4f9d0ba79111194139208fa5) for physical fitness. BTW, did anyone else notice this. “Male-level” physical fitness standards are how they’re going to get rid of virtually all women in the service. There’ll probably be exceptions for traditional female occupations (nurses, secretaries) but that’ll be all. In other words, it’s back to 1950 for the military. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8397 "2025-10-01T06:21:53Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > They’ll keep a token black or two around, but all the others that aren’t straight, white males are gone. And most likely, none of the tokens will ever get more than two stars. No, they won’t. Even one token is still DEI. > [@dtilque](#): > > BTW, did anyone else notice this. “Male-level” physical fitness standards are how they’re going to get rid of virtually all women in the service. And no doubt how they’ll get rid of all the “sissies” (as co-conspirator Hegseth likely is dying to say) too. But [Rob Kearney](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Kearney_(strongman)) certainly can pass any test they devise. Also, at least Hegseth’s aim is to get rid of all, not virtually all, but exactly all women from the military. > [@](#): > > There’ll probably be exceptions for traditional female occupations (nurses, secretaries) but that’ll be all. Do you really think they’ll leave nurses in the military? They certainly won’t leave male nurses in. > [@](#): > > In other words, it’s back to 1950 for the military. Wrong century. 1850. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8398 "2025-10-01T09:42:23Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > No, they won’t. Even one token is still DEI. Trump’s good about having a token Black or two around. Makes him think he’s not racist. Don’t know much about Kegsbreath, maybe he doesn’t want any. > [@Monty](#): > > And no doubt how they’ll get rid of all the “sissies” (as co-conspirator Hegseth likely is dying to say) too. I really don’t know much about him. It’s possible he still thinks of gays as being all limp-wrists. > [@Monty](#): > > Do you really think they’ll leave nurses in the military? They certainly won’t leave male nurses in. Depends on how much he liked MASH. Which once had an episode where a male nurse was assigned to the unit as an orderly. The Army only let women be nurses back then. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8399 "2025-10-01T09:56:18Z")
[And this is what passes for a joke with the felon and Killer Kennedy.](https://www.aol.com/lifestyle/trump-jokes-rfk-jr-giving-195157501.html) > [@](#): > > During a presidential press conference on Tuesday, [Donald Trump](https://people.com/tag/donald-trump/) took a moment to poke fun at his Secretary of Health and Human Services, [Robert F. Kennedy Jr](https://people.com/tag/robert-kennedy-jr/). > > While answering a question about prescription drugs, Trump was interrupted by RFK sneezing. Pausing his remarks, he turned to the HHS head, saying, “God bless you, Bobby.” > > After a moment, the president added, “I hope I didn’t catch COVID just then!” > > Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla was also present for the press conference. Trump turned to the prescription executive and said, “He’s got Paxlovid, give me a Paxlovid immediately!” referencing the antiviral medication used to treat COVID-19 symptoms. [And here is the notification given to federal workers in advance of the current shutdown.](https://ca.news.yahoo.com/read-email-federal-workers-getting-033912929.html) > [@](#): > > _President Trump opposes a government shutdown, and strongly supports the enactment of H.R. 5371, which is a clean Continuing Resolution to fund the government through November 21, and already passed the U.S. House of Representatives. Unfortunately, Democrats are blocking this Continuing Resolution in the U.S. Senate due to unrelated policy demands. If Congressional Democrats maintain their current posture and refuse to pass a clean Continuing Resolution to keep the government funded before midnight on September 30, 2025, federal appropriated funding will lapse._ > > _A funding lapse will result in certain government activities ceasing due to a lack of appropriated funding. In addition, designated pre-notified employees of this agency would be temporarily furloughed. P.L. 116-1 would apply._ > > _The agency has contingency plans in place for executing an orderly shutdown of activities that would be affected by any lapse in appropriations forced by Congressional Democrats. Further information about those plans will be distributed should a lapse occur._ [Preach it, Joy!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/view-joy-behar-warns-dire-161923612.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > If you think you’ll still be around in four years’ time, [_The View_](https://ew.com/the-view/)’s resident comedian [Joy Behar](https://ew.com/person/joy-behar/) has a positive affirmation that will bring you right back down to earth. > > During a spirited conversation on Tuesday about the dire state of American politics following House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries [slamming Donald Trump for posting an AI-generated image](https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/09/30/congress/hakeem-jeffries-racist-trump-deepfake-video-00586804) of Jeffries wearing a sombrero, _The View_ cohosts criticized government figures in power over their interpersonal interactions. > > “I’m getting tired of the tippy-top-top doing the ‘us and them,’ the ‘left and right,’” panelist [Sara Haines](https://ew.com/person/sara-haines/) said. “Everyone needs healthcare, everyone needs food, everyone needs affordable housing. We’re more unified than we are not. The name-calling and the stupid AI and the imagery has got to stop. It’s time to lead.” > > Behar then jumped in to offer a projection for where the country — and its people — are headed under Trump’s leadership. > > **“If you guys think we can survive another three and a half years of this, I think you’re delusional. Every day there’s some nihilistic thing,” the 82-year-old said.** I’m guessing she’s seen this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8400 "2025-10-01T09:59:22Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > BTW, did anyone else notice this. “Male-level” physical fitness standards are how they’re going to get rid of virtually all women in the service. There’ll probably be exceptions for traditional female occupations (nurses, secretaries) but that’ll be all. In other words, it’s back to 1950 for the military. First - the military has long had male secretaries and nurses. I wouldn’t be surprised if those positions were usually male for most of history. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Kegbreath insists on calling male nurses by some other term. Second - in 1950 there probably were a non-trivial number of women in those military roles, many of them “leftover” from WWII which saw unprecedented numbers of women in the military. Of course, Kegbreath is too young to remember the 1950’s, and the Orange One too senile. They’re promoting a 1950 that never was. Sort of a cross between _Father Knows Best_ and _The Handmaid’s Tale._ It’s as real as the fake gold vomited all over the Oval Office. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2025, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8401 "2025-10-01T10:02:44Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > They’re promoting a 1950 that never was. And that right there is an a 100% accurate summation of today’s Republican party’s viewpoint of _American values and history_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=416) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=418)