# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 425
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8542 "2025-10-06T00:35:28Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > The cat is officially out of the bag. Not that it’s a surprise to us. The Leopards-Eating-People’s-Faces crowd might be startled. > > Democrats should be shouting this from the rooftops. (Along with a bunch of other stuff…sigh…) Trump caught in a lie??? [cue John Oliver banging the “Now We’ve Got Him!” button] ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8543 "2025-10-06T02:08:27Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > Trump caught in a lie??? [cue John Oliver banging the “Now We’ve Got Him!” button] Well, even for trump, IMHO this is more than one of his regular, routine, everyday lies. It’s: ➡ **THE LIE** ⬅ Or am I making too a big a deal out of it? ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8544 "2025-10-06T02:15:31Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > That was how I justified becoming a polytheist when I was about 12. If it wasn’t raining, I would run off screaming into the night. But I don’t want to get damp. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8545 "2025-10-06T03:38:25Z")
[Wow. The felon’s metldown about on his Favorite News Network is off the chart!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-shreds-fox-news-peter-163933614.html) (The formatting is from the article.) > [@](#): > > President **Donald Trump** expressed his disapproval with Fox News’s **Peter Doocy** who interviewed Sen. **Mark Kelly** (D-AZ) about the [government shutdown](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/federal-government-shuts-down-senate-040038418.html) on his new show, _The Sunday Briefing_. > > “Why is FoxNews and Peter Doocy putting on Democrat Senator **Mark Kelly** to talk about, totally unabated or challenged, Healthcare?” Trump wrote on [Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115322333732211990). > > The president used the occasion to air larger grievances against the network. His Truth Social post continued: > > > The FAKE SPIN is so bad for Republicans that it is hard to believe that we WIN. It will be very unfair, in the future, when they don’t have “TRUMP” to fight for them. Therefore, we should fix it, NOW! > > > > I’m watching this Interview. It just doesn’t end. Fox should either get on board, or get off board, NOW, but at this point, it just doesn’t make any difference to me. They suck up the Ratings because of us, and then spin them in the Democrats’ direction. > > > > They refuse to put up Polls that correctly show me at 65% in Popularity, a Republican RECORD, but if I have a fake bad “Poll,” many of which are done by Fox (One of the worst “Pollsters” out there is the FoxNews Poll), they put them up immediately, and with gusto. Republicans are so tired of this fight with Fox always trying to be so “politically correct!” Thank you for your attention to this matter. [And it’s not a one-off. Hoo, boy!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-calls-top-blue-state-234635750.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump took to Truth Social to post a lengthy diatribe about one of his biggest political enemies, New York Attorney General Letitia James, calling her “scum” and demanding her removal from office. > > In a Saturday afternoon [rant](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115317676598981431), the president wrote, “Corrupt Letitia James is costing New York State Hundreds of Billions of Dollars in lost business. No company or individual wants to be there, knowing that she’s the ‘Attorney General.’ She is a Complete and Total Disaster, who tried running against Kathy Hochul for Governor, and only got 1% of the Vote in Polls, and QUIT.” > > Talking about himself in the third person, he continued, “She then went back to her WITCH HUNT against President Donald J. Trump, and others. Until this ‘SCUM’ is removed from the Attorney General’s Office, no company will move to New York, and few companies will be using the New York Stock Exchange, or NASDAQ, for going Public.“ > > “The new Texas Exchange will be taking ALL of this business away, and we’re talking Hundreds of Billions of Dollars!” he added, referring to the new Texas Stock Exchange set to be headquartered in Dallas that was [approved by the SEC](https://www.dallasnews.com/business/2025/09/30/texas-stock-exchange-wins-sec-approval/) on Tuesday. [Pull out your bullshit Bingo cards!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-boasts-best-physical-specimen-213358372.html) (Don’t worry; “racist comment” is the center square.) > [@](#): > > President **Donald Trump** boasted he was the “best physical specimen” of all the recent presidents while addressing sailors during celebrations for the U.S. Navy’s 250th anniversary. > > Trump was in the midst of thanking dignitaries for making the celebration possible when he lighted on Rep. **Ronny Jackson** (R-TX). > > “A man that everybody loves — He was my doctor in the White House and I got to know him very well. He was also the doctor for **Barack Hussein Obama**. Have you heard of him?” Trump asked. > > “He was a doctor for a man named **[George W.] Bush**. And at a press conference they asked him, ‘Who’s in the best shape, who’s the healthiest, who’s the strongest, who’s the best physical specimen of the three?’ He said, ‘That’s easy. President Donald Trump!’ And I said, ‘I love this guy!'” > > Trump paused for applause. > > “I said, ‘I love him!'” he repeated. “Ronny Jackson. He’s now a congressman, you know. So, he was an admiral, he was a chief doctor — he was the whole boss of doctors — and now he’s a very, very successful congressman from Texas. Thank you, Ronny, and I appreciate those words. I’ll never forget them.” > > Jackson was Trump’s doctor during his first term and was widely criticized by many on the left for the glowing bill of health he gave the president. [The felon hosted the event? Of course it was festooned with hypocrisy.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-host-large-navy-celebration-014415631.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > President [Donald Trump](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/donald-trump) will host a large Navy celebration this weekend while the military goes without pay during [the government shutdown](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/government-shutdown-trump-live-updates-2025-b2838078.html). > > Trump wrote on Truth Social Friday evening, “THE SHOW MUST GO ON!” when announcing his trip to Norfolk, [Virginia](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/virginia), on Sunday “to honor our brave men and women of the United States Navy” for its 250th birthday, which will be on October 13. > > Trump said he will be joined by first lady [Melania Trump](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/melania-trump), Secretary of Defense [Pete Hegseth](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/pete-hegseth)and Secretary of the Navy John Phelan to mark decades of what the president called “maritime dominance.” > > “This will be the largest Celebration in the History of the Navy,” Trump said, adding that thousands of active-duty servicemembers and military families are expected to be in attendance. > > **But unlike the president, these servicemembers won’t be getting paid this weekend thanks to the ongoing government shutdown.** > > **Active-duty servicemembers are required to work unpaid during the shutdown. Their paychecks will stop coming on October 15 if the Senate doesn’t pass a funding bill by then, the [Military Times](https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2025/10/01/how-the-government-shutdown-is-affecting-troops-families/) reports.** [And what else is the felon spending his time on during the shutdown.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-casually-golfs-way-yet-174430606.html) Break out those Bingo cards! > [@](#): > > More than 750,000 federal workers are either furloughed or working without pay after Republicans and Democrats failed to reach a funding deal, and Donald Trump is playing golf. > > The president’s motorcade reportedly left the White House at around 10 a.m. Saturday, bound for Trump National Golf Club in Virginia. > > His leisure outing comes as Republicans throw the kitchen sink at Democrats, blaming the party for the shutdown, after both sides failed to reach an agreement on Wednesday for funding amid a deadlock on issues of health care, foreign aid, and regulatory rollbacks. And don’t forget “Hatch Violations” on your cards (From the same link). > [@](#): > > The websites of multiple federal agencies now display messages attributing the shutdown to the actions of Senate Democrats, with some federal employees’ out-of-office messages now following suit in what critics have described as a violation of the Hatch Act, which prohibits the use of official channels for political messaging. [Killer Kennedy canned a whistleblower.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/rfk-jr-fires-nih-whistleblower-181432760.html) > [@](#): > > [Robert F. Kennedy Jr.](https://people.com/tag/robert-kennedy-jr/) has fired a top NIH scientist who filed a whistleblower complaint against the Trump administration. > > Dr. Jeanne Marrazzo, who formerly directed the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), was demoted and put on administrative leave in March, per _[The New York Times](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/02/health/kennedy-marrazzo-nih.html)._ > > She filed a complaint against the Trump administration to the U.S. Office of Special Counsel in September, claiming she was silenced and demoted after she spoke out against [Trump administration policies](https://people.com/trump-touts-russ-vought-project-2025-ties-11823410) that she argued undermined vaccine research, went against court orders and canceled important clinical trials. > > Marrazzo was officially fired on Wednesday, Oct. 1, per a copy of the termination letter obtained by _The New York Times_. The letter from Kennedy, who is the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services, did not provide a specific reason for the termination, per the outlet. > > “My termination, unfortunately, shows that the leaders of HHS and the National Institutes of Health do not share my commitment to scientific integrity and public health,” Marrazzo said in a [statement](https://katzbanks.com/news/marrazzo-fired/)shared by her attorneys. Y’all remember that bullshit toy soldier Hegseth and the felon blathered at the ~~North Korea~~ Quantico generals and admirals meeting? Don’t forget they want this country to be a military dictatorship. Their stated version of how they want the military to operate is also how they want everything to operate. [And now the felon’s doing stealth interview responses.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-texts-cnn-host-renew-160955789.html) > [@](#): > > [Donald Trump](https://www.thedailybeast.com/keyword/donald-j-trump/) has sparked a fresh frenzy about his health after giving a very unorthodox CNN interview. > > The 79-year-old president gave an exclusive interview to _State of the Union_ host [Jake Tapper](https://www.thedailybeast.com/keyword/jake-tapper/) Sunday, but bizarrely texted his answers in at an unspecified time before the show rather than speaking in person or calling. > > In his interview, graphics of Trump’s texts were shown on screen. And you just know that’s generated a bit of a reaction. > [@](#): > > On X, however, CNN viewers speculated that Trump turned to his keyboard to avoid being seen—if it was even him sending the texts at all. Here are two top notch xits quoted in the article. > [@](#): > > One person wrote: “‘Texted’… ‘Proof of life’?” > [@](#): > > “Hasn’t been seen since Tuesday maybe mention that,” said a second. Maybe put a bucket of KFC on the brand new White House patio and play some reggae. If he starts he comes out the back door doing that desktop Santa dance, we’ll know. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8546 "2025-10-06T04:18:43Z")
[https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/california-troops-sent-to-oregon-after-court-bars-oregon-guard-deployment-5545de00?st=2nVY5Y](https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/california-troops-sent-to-oregon-after-court-bars-oregon-guard-deployment-5545de00?st=2nVY5Y) Is there any way to find anyone in this administration in contempt of court? ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8547 "2025-10-06T05:14:32Z")
Great question @puzzlegal . I’ve been throwing my hands up quite a bit at some of the most recent developments. But you just made me realize a question I should have been asking. Correct me if I’m wrong, and I mean that please do, but I seem to recall one of the arguments made during and after the election last year was that even if SCOTUS declared some flavor of legal immunity for Trump regarding Official Acts those lower on the totem pole could still be held accountable for illegal actions. Where is the accountability for subordinates carrying out illegal acts and violation of court orders for example? Have we just not reached that point yet? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8548 "2025-10-06T06:30:54Z")
It hasn’t reached SCOTUS-level yet but when it does I fully expect six of the justices to use more tortured logic to okay it, something on the order of since the President can do no wrong, anyone carrying out His\* orders are similarly protected. \*Capitalization deliberate. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8549 "2025-10-06T08:36:01Z")
If the president does have such immunity, then so do the governors who, constitutionally are te chief executives of the state governments.I believe an order issued to fire on federal troops entering the state without the governor’s request is definitely within the scope of the governor’s official capacity. I caught myself before I asked if the felon and the rest of the magaflatearthers understood that. Of course they don’t. And such a question would be the prime example that, yes, there is such a thing as a stupid question. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8550 "2025-10-06T12:30:11Z")
I’m new to hearing of Project 2025. BBC (who ya gonna call?) describes it as: [The document itself, external](https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf) sets out four main policy aims: restore the family as the centrepiece of American life; dismantle the administrative state; defend the nation’s sovereignty and borders; and secure God-given individual rights to live freely. If Trump ever said “centrepiece” he’d had been President in 1980. I suppose “dismantling the Administrative State” is merely suggesting a new Constitution where the President is a Monarch, yet I reckon we’ve got that already. Does that need some improvements? Dunno that Thomas Jefferson said “God Given” rights yet the USA has been all about God - the one correct God - for 60 years. Can’t he just Executive Order all that shit at once? If there were still a SCOTUS they might someday sort it out. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8551 "2025-10-06T12:46:10Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Is there any way to find anyone in this administration in contempt of court? I just find them all contemptible. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8552 "2025-10-06T13:02:56Z")
I am surprised that there is not a thread dedicated to the **[Chicago apartment raid](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/state-terror-american-style?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=277517&post_id=175383431)** last Tuesday (link to Paul Krugman’s substack), but it seems nobody has heard of it. Or perhaps I’ve missed it among the cacophony of dumb evil. So I thought I’d better mention it in The Pit. Because it is good TV, which is all that matters to a certain individual: > U.S. Border Patrol agents deployed to Chicago led a late-night raid on an apartment building this week, rappelling from helicopters onto rooftops and breaking down doors in an operation authorities said targeted gang members but which swept up U.S. citizens and families. > […] > And they arrested two suspected gang members, while also rounding up some undocumented immigrants. But they detained everyone in the building, smashed their doors, zip-tied their children, and ransacked their homes. They must have done something, I am sure. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8553 "2025-10-06T13:17:58Z")
I’ve seen that discussed here, although i didn’t remember where. Maybe the deportment thread? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8554 "2025-10-06T13:22:50Z")
[Wannabe dictators gotta wannabe dictate.](https://deadline.com/2025/10/trump-al-sharpton-nbc-license-1236570702/) (The \*_bolding_ is mine.) > [@](#): > > [Donald Trump](https://deadline.com/tag/donald-trump/) once again called for an FCC investigation of a television network over their news coverage, this time over MSNBC’s continued employment of [Al Sharpton](https://deadline.com/tag/al-sharpton/). > > On Truth Social, Trump wrote, “I knew Al Sharpton for many years, not that it matters, but he was a major ‘TRUMP’ fan. He’d ask me to go to his fake Rallies all the time, because I brought BIG Crowds, and he couldn’t get anybody to come without me. Then he did the Tawana Brawley Hoax, one of the worst Low Level Scams in History, and that set him back, BIG TIME! Then he got to know Brian Roberts, Chairman of Fake News NBC, who gave him what would become one of the Lowest Rated Shows in Television History. Roberts is afraid to take him off because it wouldn’t be ‘Politically Correct.’ **This is just one of the many reasons that the Federal Communications Commission should look into the license of NBC, which shows almost exclusively positive Democrat content. Likewise, ABC Fake News — About the same thing, 97% negative to Republicans!”** Not that it matters anymore, but the constitution does have the First Amendment. [The Honorable Senator Duckworth has a few words about the dishonorable ~~wannabe~~ war criminal Hegseth.](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/senator-tammy-duckworth-pete-hegseth-women-military_n_68e2f4cbe4b0b59bd0eeb52e) > [@](#): > > Sen. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) said the military “could not do its job” without “the women who serve” while taking aim at Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s [controversial speech](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj3zJyHayIg) about the impending revamp of the military under the Trump administration. > > “Well, this is the least qualified secretary of defense in our nation’s history, and he’s questioning the ability of the women who actually qualified to … to do their jobs,” Duckworth, an Army veteran, said of Hegseth while appearing on CBS News’ [“Face the Nation”](https://x.com/FaceTheNation/status/1974887733358149789)Sunday. “The female rangers, the females that graduated from SEAL school, have met those highest standards.” The next part of the article highlights Senator Duckworth’s mettle. > [@](#): > > Duckworth, who lost her legs and partial use of her right arm when an RPG hit her [Black Hawk helicopter](https://www.duckworth.senate.gov/news/in-the-news/senator-tammy-duckworth-on-the-attack-that-took-her-legsand-having-a-baby-at-50) in Iraq in 2004, accused Hegseth of trying to “push women out of the military.” > > “He has long sought to push women out of the military. And, frankly, our military could not do its job of protecting America and keeping us safe without the women who serve in the military,” she said. Let me remind you. Queegsling (yes, that was intentional) Hegseth is demanding others to meet standards he not only did not meet but fell far beneath the bar. (Yes, that was intentional, too.) [The felon love him some birthday bashes.](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5539948-trump-white-house-ufc-fight-june-14/) > [@](#): > > [President Trump](https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump/)on Sunday revealed a new detail about the hyped UFC fight set to take place on the South Lawn of the White House: It’ll occur on June 14, which is also his 80th birthday. > > In remarks in Norfolk, Va., at a celebration of the Navy’s 250th anniversary, the president reveled in the major events happening in the U.S. during his second term — America’s 250th birthday, the 2026 World Cup and the 2028 Summer Olympics. > > “And on June 14, next year, we’re going to have a big UFC fight at the White House, right at the White House on the grounds,” he said, without mentioning that date is also a milestone day for him. > > The Hill has reached out to the White House to confirm. > > UFC fighter [Conor McGregor](https://thehill.com/people/conor-mcgregor/)said Wednesday [he would fight](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5535245-ufc-fighter-mcgregor-trump-matchup/) in the match-up. > > Last month, the White House [confirmed to The Hill](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5488203-white-house-ufc-cage-match-2026/) that the event would include fireworks and light shows, fighter weigh-ins at the Lincoln Memorial and fan activities spread across the National Mall. Right. That’s what those memorials and monuments to the great figures of American history are for: backdrops for a fake sport. That’s actually pretty fitting for this clusterfuck of a government. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8555 "2025-10-06T13:31:41Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > I’m new to hearing of Project 2025 It was frequently mentioned by liberal commentators here in the US during the election last year. At that time, Trump repeatedly disavowed any connection to P2025 when he was questioned about it, and pretended like he really wasn’t even familiar with it. But, in a completely unsurprising development, Trump then placed people involved with developing P2025 into his administration, including Vought. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8556 "2025-10-06T13:35:33Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Because it is good TV, which is all that matters to a certain individual I think you’ve encapsulated the entire Clusterfuck Mark I and Clusterfuck Mark II rather nicely with that. He’s completely convinced that anything he stars or starred in or even particpated in is good optics, aka good TV. Remember he was the main figure on _The Apprentice_ and he has convinced himself that wasn’t good writing, but good reality because he’s the bestest ever boss and the cameras were just recording his awesomeness. That’s also why he thinks it’s a great idea to hold a fake sport event at the White House for God’s sake. He participated in that charade so therefore it was real and the cameras, again, were just there to record his awesomeness. > [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > > And they arrested two suspected gang members, while also rounding up some undocumented immigrants. But they detained everyone in the building, smashed their doors, zip-tied their children, and ransacked their homes. > > They must have done something, I am sure. Luckily whatever the felon and his shock troops they they must have done was done on land. Otherwise they’d’ve just been straight up murdered. And that’s why I put the strikeout through _wannabe_ in front of _war criminal_ for Hegseth. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8557 "2025-10-06T13:44:42Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > [https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/california-troops-sent-to-oregon-after-court-bars-oregon-guard-deployment-5545de00?st=2nVY5Y](https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/california-troops-sent-to-oregon-after-court-bars-oregon-guard-deployment-5545de00?st=2nVY5Y) I didn’t click, because I’m pretty sure WSJ is paywalled for me. But here’s a quote from [Maddow Blog](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/maddow-blog-trump-tries-fails-to-circumvent-court-ruling-on-unnecessary-portland-troop-deployment/ar-AA1NWYNg) [Opinion article; Bolding mine]: > The aforementioned Times report added, “Judge Immergut, an appointee of President Trump, called an emergency hearing Sunday, then broadened her restraining order to cover ‘the relocation, federalization or deployment of members of **the National Guard of any state or the District of Columbia** in the state of Oregon,’ telling Justice Department lawyers that the president was ‘in direct contravention’ of her order.” Perhaps Trump can try sending in the Puerto Rico National Guard. That would be hilarious. > [@DesertDog](#): > > His\* … > > \*Capitalization deliberate. Yes, I do that; as befits the Messiah. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8558 "2025-10-06T13:47:55Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > They must have done something Literally “Algo habrán hecho” as they said during the 1976-1983 dictatorship in Argentina. Dark times ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8559 "2025-10-06T14:43:15Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Trump then placed people involved with developing P2025 into his administration Not the first time any politician has denied before being elected his agenda. My fear here is behind it is an ever-changing mix of essentially oligarchs. Putin’s playbook. All of this P2025 seems to have been enacted. The SEC has been neutralized so nobody there is going to inquire about massive short-term PUT’s or CALL’s action depending on what DJT is going to announce/ban/sanction, etc… I’ve been looking at the action myself, on securities affected by his announcements. An hour, half an hour before lots of action in just the right direction. He let’s his friends in. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8560 "2025-10-06T15:21:07Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > I’m new to hearing of Project 2025. Oh my. 🤯 Seriously? That is alarming. And I consider you an extremely well-informed person. I wonder how many other of our fellow citizens don’t know about it. That’s why I said in my post above that Dems should be screaming from the rooftops that trumpie has openly claimed Project 2025 as his blueprint. After denying that he had even heard of it during the election. I think this is a very big deal. * * * * * * * * * > [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > I am surprised that there is not a thread dedicated to the **[Chicago apartment raid](https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/state-terror-american-style?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=277517&post_id=175383431)** last Tuesday (link to Paul Krugman’s substack), but it seems nobody has heard of it. I saw that in Krugman’s substack, too. The MSM are not doing their part to keep the public informed. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8561 "2025-10-06T15:27:39Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Literally “Algo habrán hecho” as they said during the 1976-1983 dictatorship in Argentina. Dark times ahead. “Algo habrán hecho” was also said when Franco´s Gestapo (it was called _Dirección General de Seguridad_, but the other name is catchier) arrested people, tortured them and then **[shot](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_use_of_capital_punishment_in_Spain)** them. Yes, it was a direct, intentional reference. Well spotted, Sir. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=424) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=426)