# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 426
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8562 "2025-10-06T15:43:03Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > That’s why I said in my post above that Dems should be screaming from the rooftops that trumpie has openly claimed Project 2025 as his blueprint. I don’t understand this part. They (some subset of course, because treating “the Democrats” as some kind of single, unified body is both unrealistic and laughable) have been warning about this since before the election. So what are you actually asking for? That they find a different way of yelling so that a majority of Americans actually take heed? If anybody has the magic formula to wrangle that herd of cats, they’d already be ruling the world. ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8563 "2025-10-06T15:53:25Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > > [@Coriolanus](#): > > > > I’m new to hearing of Project 2025 > > It was frequently mentioned by liberal commentators here in the US during the election last year. At that time, Trump repeatedly disavowed any connection to P2025 when he was questioned about it, and pretended like he really wasn’t even familiar with it. But, in a completely unsurprising development, Trump then placed people involved with developing P2025 into his administration, including Vought. “It’s a cookbook!” ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8564 "2025-10-06T15:58:11Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Perhaps Trump can try sending in the Puerto Rico National Guard. That would be hilarious. At least they’ll be well-equipped with paper towels. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8565 "2025-10-06T16:03:45Z")
Woah, I thought it was an autochthonous expression, you learn something everyday, specially in he Straight Dope. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8566 "2025-10-06T16:04:54Z")
Yeah, I had this image of the PRNG rolling up and tossing rolls of paper towels to (not ‘at’) protesters, and then bringing out lechón asado, mofongo, and empanadas, and cranking Bad Bunny on the loudspeakers and turning the invasion into a street party. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8567 "2025-10-06T16:15:22Z")
Just in case the song is unknown to you, let me link to Luis Eduardo Aute’s “[Al alba](https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_alba)” (link in Spanish), about the ones waiting through the night to be shot by sunrise. A beautiful, haunting **[song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U_Qic-AZv8&list=RD0U_Qic-AZv8&start_radio=1)**. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8568 "2025-10-06T16:15:44Z")
Until it turns into a rumble with exquisitely choreographed Jerome Robbins dance numbers… ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8569 "2025-10-06T16:21:32Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Is there any way to find anyone in this administration in contempt of court? Trump: “California is such crime-ridden disaster, we must deploy the National Guard there to maintain order!” Also Trump: “Send the California National Guard to a different State!” ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8570 "2025-10-06T16:22:23Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > That’s what those memorials and monuments to the great figures of American history are for: backdrops for a fake sport. > [@Monty](#): > > That’s also why he thinks it’s a great idea to hold a fake sport event at the White House for God’s sake. UFC may be an over-hyped, dramatized, brutal bloodsport that glorifies and celebrates merciless violence, but it is very real. Possibly the perfect metaphor for this administration. (Except that those getting the crap kicked out of them are not willing participants.) ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8571 "2025-10-06T16:24:53Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > After denying that he had even heard of it [Project 2025] during the election. Did anyone actually believe his denials? I certainly didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8572 "2025-10-06T16:34:55Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > All of this P2025 seems to have been enacted. I think we’re still short of that: > **[Project 2025 Tracker](https://www.project2025.observer/en)** > > A comprehensive, community-driven initiative to track the implementation of Project 2025's policy proposals But they definitely seem to have The Big “Mo” (Mo-mentum), and the old saying, “There’s no zealot like a convert” seems frighteningly apt. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8573 "2025-10-06T17:13:14Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Did anyone actually believe his denials? I certainly didn’t. Not us! 🤦🏽‍♀️ The MAGAbots! ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8574 "2025-10-06T17:14:08Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Not that it matters anymore, but the constitution does have the First Amendment. And, of course, Fox News and OAN are exempt because they are 97% favorable to Republicans. > [@Monty quoting HuffPo](#): > > Duckworth, who lost her legs and partial use of her right arm when an RPG hit her [Black Hawk helicopter](https://www.duckworth.senate.gov/news/in-the-news/senator-tammy-duckworth-on-the-attack-that-took-her-legsand-having-a-baby-at-50) in Iraq in 2004, accused Hegseth of trying to “push women out of the military.” Of course a manly man would have shrugged it off and grown a new pair – of legs, ya perverts. Let’s see what his [combat experience](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth) is… > Hegseth served in the [3rd Battalion, 187th Infantry Regiment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Battalion,_187th_Infantry_Regiment)[[15]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth#cite_note-FOOTNOTEPhilippsRosenberg2024-17) in the [101st Airborne Division](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/101st_Airborne_Division), led by Colonel [Michael D. Steele](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_D._Steele).[[22]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth#cite_note-FOOTNOTESteinhauer2020-24) He began his tour in [Baghdad](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baghdad) before moving to [Samarra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samarra),[[10]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth#cite_note-FOOTNOTEBolduc2012-12) where he served as a [civil affairs](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_affairs#United_States_Army) officer,[[23]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth#cite_note-FOOTNOTE%22Combat_vets_attempt_to_sway_Iraq_debate%22._NBC_News-25) working with the city council and forming an alliance with councilmember [Asaad Ali Yaseen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asaad_Ali_Yaseen).[[10]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth#cite_note-FOOTNOTEBolduc2012-12) > Hegseth has described a near-death experience in Iraq in which a [rocket-propelled grenade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket-propelled_grenade) hit his vehicle but failed to detonate.[[24]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth#cite_note-FOOTNOTEKranishLamotheEllisonHudson2024-26) Which, he says, led to his drinking problem. Yup, men are better suited to combat. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8575 "2025-10-06T17:34:11Z")
If Wikipedia is allowed to still show this, he is proud of it: > He was barred from serving on duty at the inauguration of Joe Biden after a guardsman flagged Hegseth as an “insider threat”, noting [a tattoo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth#Tattoos) on his biceps of the words _[Deus vult](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_vult)_. My take on **[Deus vultures](https://schumanchu.eu/html/l/l_00119goodmanwithagun.html)** is not so positive. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8576 "2025-10-06T19:03:47Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > After denying that he had even heard of it during the election. I think this is a very big deal. I reckon if he said he was or wasn’t going to employ it, that would have made more major news. Perhaps he thought Elon’s minions would accomplish his goals. There’s nothing particularly odious in there: Nothing about National Guard occupying Blue-state cities, letting ICE do whatever they wished and populating El Salvador jails. If I was even a Reagan-republican I’d want most of the overall themes of Project 2025. It is sufficiently vague, particularly in regards to redefining Article II stuff - but he’s already done that, start with Elon’s minions and all his EO’s which SCOTUS won’t have the time to review once they’re challenged to that level. The really sinister thing about P2025 is it seems to be a blueprint for an oligarchy. Maybe that’s why he denied it originally, yet I reckon that’s what the USA has. All the crap Trump is doing does not seem like it’s sourced from his one Big Brain. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8577 "2025-10-06T19:09:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > . That’s what those memorials and monuments to the great figures of American history are for: backdrops for a fake sport. I’m thinking he might have heard of Roman emperors sponsoring gladiator matches to celebrate their birthdays, and figures this is the next best thing. Who knows by then he might be able to make arrangements with the national zoo to get some Democrats thrown to the lions. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8578 "2025-10-06T19:22:22Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > I’m new to hearing of Project 2025. > [@Coriolanus](#): > > There’s nothing particularly odious in there > [@Coriolanus](#): > > The really sinister thing about P2025 is it seems to be a blueprint for an oligarchy. As per the time stamp of those quotes: Congratulations to seven very fruitful hours! ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8579 "2025-10-06T19:34:50Z")
Thanks! It is good to know that our president is so brilliant to deny knowledge of a very long document or intent to implement it. And then implement it, including the super-secret bits like National Guard and ICE. > **Consolidate Executive Power:** Centralize power in the presidency based on a controversial interpretation of the unitary executive theory. This includes replacing thousands of merit-based federal civil service workers with political appointees loyal to the president and taking partisan control of key agencies like the Department of Justice and the FBI. > Critics of Project 2025 view it as an authoritarian plan that would undermine the rule of law, the separation of powers, and civil liberties, leading the country toward autocracy and a Christian nationalist state. Proponents argue it is necessary to dismantle an unaccountable and overly powerful federal bureaucracy and restore a more conservative vision for the nation. A frontal Monarchy (shadow oligarchy) for all. I don’t think Reaganites would quite have supported this one. But now it’s The Law. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8580 "2025-10-06T19:51:05Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > > Community-driven > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > But they definitely seem to have The Big “Mo” (Mo-mentum), and the old saying, “There’s no zealot like a convert” seems frighteningly apt. The Monsters are on Maple Street. After my seven hours of bliss, I’m thinking “creeping fascism” or the realization you get when you see one rat: There are more. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2025, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8581 "2025-10-06T23:09:49Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > UFC may be an over-hyped, dramatized, brutal bloodsport that glorifies and celebrates merciless violence, but it is very real. [It’s real theatre, not a real sport.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_wrestling) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=425) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=427)