# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 428
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8602 "2025-10-07T23:29:58Z")
Quoting an article: > [@Monty](#): > > “When someone is providing information that’s otherwise classified or otherwise not for disclosure, that’s a problem. So, we’re doing everything we can protocol-wise to make sure those are minimized,” Hegseth said. Like, say, posting battle plans on a Signal group? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8603 "2025-10-07T23:40:32Z")
Maybe we need an Anti-clusterfuck thread: > Oregon National Guard Adjutant General, General Gronewold says if they are federalized, that he will > advise the Title 10 commander to utilize National Guard Troops to PROTECT protesters at ICE facilities. This is the right answer. > **[💞Sabrina💞 (@sabrinarina.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/sabrinarina.bsky.social/post/3m2mtpaeve22z)** > > This post requires authentication to view. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8604 "2025-10-07T23:43:38Z")
Wow. That sounds like actual good news for a change. Can Trump fire him? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8605 "2025-10-07T23:48:27Z")
I don’t think so, but I’m sure Trump can set his goons on him to burn his house down with his family inside. That’s who we’re dealing with at this point. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8606 "2025-10-08T00:21:19Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Like, say, posting battle plans on a Signal group? Or storing classified documents in your goddam bathroom? [![](https://images.axios.com/9HepTmPSMv2JW9mvFYfOeHG1oqY=/2023/06/09/1686341631881.jpg) ](https://images.axios.com/9HepTmPSMv2JW9mvFYfOeHG1oqY=/2023/06/09/1686341631881.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8607 "2025-10-08T00:57:20Z")
It’s not called The Throne Room for nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8608 "2025-10-08T01:58:46Z")
[After telling sailors “don’t worry about” their backpay, the felon is now threatening to not pay federal workers their backpay after the shutdown ends](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-administration-threatens-no-back-153324663.html). Please do pay close attention to my **bolding** below. > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — [President Donald Trump’s](https://apnews.com/hub/donald-trump) administration warned on Tuesday of no guaranteed back pay for federal workers during [a government shutdown](https://apnews.com/article/shutdown-health-care-subsidies-obamacare-congress-10b2ae9648bc5252fc2bd485ddc83493), reversing what has been long-standing policy for some 750,000 furloughed employees, according to a memo being circulated by the White House. > > **[Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/people/donald-trump/) signed into law after [the longest government shutdown in 2019](https://apnews.com/article/30769167ab7a4ef9adf880d020b775dd) legislation to ensure federal workers receive back pay during any federal funding lapse. But in the new memo, his Office of Management and Budget says back pay must be provided by Congress, if it chooses to do so, as part of any bill to fund the government.** > > The move by the Republican administration was widely seen as a strong-arm tactic — a way to pressure lawmakers to reopen the government, now in the seventh day of [a shutdown](https://apnews.com/article/government-shutdowns-history-schumer-trump-f442ba1392fab3e7cab37756302e829c). > > **“There are some people that don’t deserve to be taken care of, and we’ll take care of them in a different way,” Trump said during an event at the White House.** > > **He said back pay “depends on who we’re talking about.”** Asked a second time about backpay for furloughed federal workers given that the requirement is spelled out in law, Trump said: “I follow the law, and what the law says is correct.” > > Refusing retroactive pay to the workers, some of whom must remain on the job as essential employees, would be a stark departure from norms and practices and almost certainly would be met with legal action. The felon has zero interest in following any laws whatsoever. If it were possible to break the laws of physics, he’d be doing that, too. [As the shutdown goes, so don’t the airplanes.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-air-traffic-control-staffing-234744653.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Air traffic control staffing issues are delaying flights for a second straight day at numerous U.S. airports as the government shutdown reaches its seventh day, the Federal Aviation Administration said in a notice on Tuesday. > > More than 3,000 flights have been delayed, according to flight tracking data, as staffing shortages have impacted a widening number of airports, including Houston, Nashville, Dallas, Chicago O’Hare and Newark. > > The FAA is reducing the number of arriving flights per hour at Chicago O’Hare, citing staffing, with average delays of 41 minutes, and there are also staffing issues at Atlanta Air Route Traffic Control Center. > > Arriving flights were being held for up to 30 minutes at Newark due to the staffing issues, the FAA said, while Washington Reagan might see new slowdowns due to low staffing on Tuesday. > > Nashville air traffic control is facing significant staffing issues and will curtail operations later on Tuesday, the FAA said. Approach control will be taken over later by Memphis Center, it added. [Former Surgeons General warn the nationa bout Killer Kennedy.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-secretary-hit-first-ever-190615395.html) > [@](#): > > Former U.S. surgeons general are sounding the alarm on Health and Human Services Secretary [Robert F. Kennedy Jr.](https://www.nj.com/topic/robert-f-kennedy-jr/) in a first-of-its-kind warning. > > In [an op-ed for The Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/10/07/surgeons-general-rfk-jr-robert-kennedy/), released Tuesday, the ex-health officials, appointed by Republican and Democratic presidents since George H.W. Bush, said they are “compelled to speak with one voice” against the actions of Kennedy, which they claim are “endangering the health of the nation.” > > “Never before have we issued a joint public warning like this,” they [wrote](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/10/07/surgeons-general-rfk-jr-robert-kennedy/) in the op-ed. “But the profound, immediate and unprecedented threat that Kennedy’s policies and positions pose to the nation’s health cannot be ignored.” > > The health experts — including Jerome Adams, who was nominated by [President Donald Trump](https://www.nj.com/topic/donald-trump/) during his first term — argue that the nation’s public health system has been undermined, with misinformation winning over science and expertise. They’re right, but they’re missing something very important. So long as the felon is in office, whoever is nominated will be just like Killer Kennedy. The only recourse after impeaching KK is to confirm such nominees. And that’s not a solution at all given the felon’s proclivity to appoint people as acting so-and-so. [The felon’s never heard of someone, so of course he has an opinion on that someone.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/music/articles/donald-trump-says-bad-bunny-163545353.html) > [@](#): > > Donald Trump said during an interview on NewsMax’s “Greg Kelly Reports” (via [Entertainment Weekly](https://ew.com/donald-trump-blasts-nfl-over-bad-bunny-2026-super-bowl-halftime-show-11825649?taid=68e537c9f06f840001b48e4c&utm_campaign=trueAnthem%3A+New+Content+%28Feed%29&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter)) that it’s “absolutely ridiculous” that Bad Bunny is performing at the Super Bowl Halftime Show next year, even though Trump also admitted that he’s “never heard” of the global music star. > > “The NFL just chose the Bad Bunny rabbit or whatever his name is,” Kelly told Trump. “This guy, who hates ICE, he doesn’t like you, he accuses everything he doesn’t like of racism.” > > “I’ve never heard of him,” Trump responded. “I don’t know who he is… I don’t know why they’re doing it. It’s crazy. And then they blame it on some promoter they hired to pick up entertainment— I think it’s absolutely ridiculous.” Honestly, that wouldn’t bug me at all if this particular _modus operandi_ weren’t how he approaches everything. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8609 "2025-10-08T03:05:03Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > The only recourse after impeaching KK is to confirm such nominees. That should be > [@](#): > > The only recourse after impeaching KK is to _ **not** _ confirm such nominees. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8610 "2025-10-08T03:20:17Z")
I would sooo love it if Biden got it. His Israel/Palestine policies, I think, make it unlikely. trump’s (and all his minions) reaction, would be sooo juicy, and worth every ounce of ketchup cleaned off the White House walls. 😆 ---
**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8611 "2025-10-08T05:37:37Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Quoting an article: > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > “When someone is providing information that’s otherwise classified or otherwise not for disclosure, that’s a problem. So, we’re doing everything we can protocol-wise to make sure those are minimized,” Hegseth said. > > Like, say, posting battle plans on a Signal group? Why am I getting these sorts of vibes about Hegseth?… [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Pxbzb8XXiGQ/maxresdefault.jpg "Blackadder goes forth.") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pxbzb8XXiGQ) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8612 "2025-10-08T06:59:59Z")
According to the felon, the nation is awash with crime. [And, thankfully, they’re now hot on a missing person’s case gripping the nation!](https://www.aol.com/news/fbi-employees-ordered-immediately-search-223920546.html) > [@](#): > > The Trump administration has ordered FBI employees in Washington, DC, and New York to immediately search their workstations and digital media for any records pertaining to the [disappearance of Amelia Earhart](https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/24/us/amelia-earhart-day-facts-trnd?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo), two law enforcement sources told CNN. > > Employees in the FBI’s DC and New York field offices received a highly unusual message from their leadership flagged with high importance late Tuesday telling them: “Per a priority request from the Executive Office of the President of the United States, please search any areas where papers or physical media records may be stored, to include both open or closed cases, for records responsive to Amelia Earhart.” > > [FBI employees](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/government-shutdown-us-congress-10-01-25#cmg8pon0h00003b60l6auis0s?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) were given a priority deadline of Wednesday to respond to the request, which comes on the seventh day of an ongoing [federal government](https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/government-shutdown-news-10-07-25?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo)shutdown. I, for one, am absolutely thrilled to see this news. After all, the first eighty-eight years are the most imporant in any mising person’s case. [More on the shutdown fallout.](https://www.aol.com/articles/don-t-know-m-going-090051770.html) > [@](#): > > Audrey Murray is losing sleep over the government shutdown that could soon derail her paychecks. > > Murray, 65, has worked as a cleaner at the Smithsonian Museum of American History for nearly three decades. Now she is among the hundreds of thousands of federal government contractors whose livelihoods are being threatened by the [political dysfunction in Washington, DC.](https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/06/politics/government-shutdown-ending-scenarios?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) > > “It’s so sad that they think they can play with people’s lives,” Murray told CNN while fighting back tears. “Stop this. Stop messing with people. We have families who depend on us.” > > Unlike federal employees, [contractors typically don’t receive backpay](https://www.nelp.org/unemployment-insurance-and-the-government-shutdown-what-federal-workers-and-contractors-need-to-know/)[when the government reopens from a shutdown](https://www.cnn.com/politics/longest-government-shutdown-vis?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo). Low-wage service workers, including cleaners, janitors, security guards, cafeteria workers and other staffers who keep buildings operating, are often out of luck. Is there anything, anything whatsoever that the felon cannot screw up? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8613 "2025-10-08T07:12:06Z")
Well, he seems to be able to walk from his golf cart to his golf ball well enough. Outside of that, I got nuthin’. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8614 "2025-10-08T07:54:53Z")
Please observe the very tasteful gilded water faucets, gilded chandelier lamp, gilded door knob, gilded rococo mirror frame, gilded wall lamp, gilded small shelf below that lamp, whatever what is on top of it may be, gilded hooks and eyelets of the poorly hung shower curtain, but not the throne or the plastic paper basket. And no rug to tie the room together or to avoid slipping on the wet floor. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8615 "2025-10-08T08:31:19Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Please observe the very tasteful gilded water faucets … [snip] I actually went to the Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City when it was the Trump Taj Mahal. There was no gold anywhere. What there was, was gold paint, and plenty of it. Looked fancy from a distance; up close, not so much. Just cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8616 "2025-10-08T08:31:46Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Well, he seems to be able to walk from his golf cart to his golf ball well enough. Nope. My evidence is his parking the cart on the greens. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8617 "2025-10-08T08:35:14Z")
C’mon, Monty. Give him credit for two steps. But that’s the farthest I’m willing to go. Driving a cart onto the green—aargh! If I was a member of that club, I’d switch my membership to a non Trump golf club that doesn’t allow that, no matter who you are. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8618 "2025-10-08T10:10:53Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > C’mon, Monty. Give him credit for two steps. But that’s the farthest I’m willing to go. No can do. 😃 The only steps I’m willing to credit him are those while shackled. Certainly not something from his mythical perfect physique that doesn’t exist. > [@Spoons](#): > > Driving a cart onto the green—aargh! If I was a member of that club, I’d switch my membership to a non Trump golf club that doesn’t allow that, no matter who you are. If you were a member of that club, you’d be applauding him. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8619 "2025-10-08T10:12:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > If you were a member of that club, you’d be applauding him. I have too much respect for the game of golf. So I guess I’d never be a member of that club. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8620 "2025-10-08T10:46:25Z")
I believe you have too much respect for _yourself_ to be affiliated with the owner of that club. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2025, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/8621 "2025-10-08T11:16:42Z")
Good call, Monty. There are many golf clubs I’d be proud to be a member of. Trump’s clubs—no, just no. Cedarhurst, in Beaverton, Ontario, on the other hand—yeah, I’d join that in a heartbeat. Sadly, I live 2000 miles away. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=427) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=429)