# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 449
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9022 "2025-10-23T20:44:40Z")
They are blaming all you old fogeys! (I’m not quite there - another couple of years 🙂 > [@](#): > > America’s debt has grown rapidly over the last decade as the population ages and enrollment in Social Security and Medicare rises. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9023 "2025-10-23T20:56:32Z")
Well, there’s always the _Logan’s Run_ solution. > **[Logan's Run (1976) ⭐ 6.8 | Action, Adventure, Sci-Fi](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_1)** > > 1h 59m | PG ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9024 "2025-10-23T23:29:56Z")
One wonders if the skyrocketing price of gold is because the Trump administration is buying all if it up, for the ballroom. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9025 "2025-10-24T00:00:20Z")
There is no way that a single flake of real gold will ever get anywhere near that ballroom ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9026 "2025-10-24T00:00:37Z")
Gold? For decorations? Somehow I don’t think so. Hmmm… 🤔 That reminds me. Time to pick up some Home Depot stock. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9027 "2025-10-24T01:57:39Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#): > > There is no way that a single flake of real gold will ever get anywhere near that ballroom But, of course, the taxpayer will end up paying for real gold. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9028 "2025-10-24T02:26:40Z")
Actually, I’m surprised that Trump isn’t selling pieces of it yet. $100 for a square inch piece of wood, $200 for a six inch piece of pipe, $300 for a foot of wire. Guaranteed authentic with a certificate signed by your favorite president! Available in two weeks. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9029 "2025-10-24T02:46:51Z")
The company doing the demolishing has a website that is “under construction”. If that tell’s you anything. > **[Demolition company at White House gets taken apart over taking the East Wing...](https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/10/demolition-company-at-white-house-gets-taken-apart-over-taking-the-east-wing-job/)** > > The Maryland contractor demolishing the East Wing of the White House is getting blasted on social media. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9030 "2025-10-24T04:54:32Z")
The site may be “under construction”, but the East Wing isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9031 "2025-10-24T05:41:06Z")
[It’s not a concept; it’s an actual plan.](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-gonna-president-2028-maga-220101155.html) (The **bolding** is mine. > [@](#): > > Former White House chief strategist [Steve Bannon](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-loyalist-melts-down-world-134717277.html) insists that President [Donald Trump](https://www.nj.com/topic/donald-trump/) will run in 2028 — and win. > > During [an interview](https://www.economist.com/insider/the-insider/inside-the-mind-of-maga-a-conversation-with-steve-bannon) with The Economist released Thursday, Bannon predicted that Trump is “going to get a third term,” ultimately based on the will of the American people. > > “So Trump 28,” said Bannon, the host of the “War Room” podcast. “Trump is gonna be president in 28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that.” > > When asked directly about the 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits any U.S. citizen from serving more than two terms as president, Bannon pointed to how there are “many different alternatives” for Trump to stay in office, but did not provide specifics. > > **“At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is,” he said, adding, “But there’s a plan.”** Ah, so it’s a secret and, without a doubt, unconstitutional plan. And the _why_ of this plan is equally alarming. > [@](#): > > Bannon continued: “President Trump will be the president of the United States, and the country needs him to be president of the United States. We have to finish what we started.” Bannon, it seems to me your idol’s on track to finishing the destruction of our country prior to the end of his second term. [Prepare for the ketchup throwing and firings!](https://www.aol.com/articles/adam-schiff-criminal-probe-stalled-201908768.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — The federal mortgage fraud investigation against Democratic Sen. Adam Schiff, one of President Donald Trump’s chief political foes, has stalled, according to four people familiar with the investigation. > > After months of investigating, the federal prosecutors in Maryland leading the probe have not produced enough evidence to bring charges, these people said. > > One of the sources, a federal law enforcement official, said the investigation “came to a standstill.” > > Kelly Hayes, the U.S. attorney overseeing the investigation, met with Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche earlier this week and asked him how to proceed, according to three people with knowledge of the meeting. The decision out of that meeting was for Hayes to pursue more evidence, and the case remains ongoing, those people said. In case you forgot why the convicted felon wants Schiff prosecuted: > [@](#): > > Schiff served as the lead impeachment manager in the House during Trump’s first impeachment trial in 2020. He has denied any wrongdoing in response to the Trump administration’s investigation into mortgage fraud allegations. And here’s what a non-flack lawyer had to say about this: > [@](#): > > In a statement, Schiff’s attorney Preet Bharara said: “It seems pretty clear that a team of career prosecutors have thoroughly reviewed the politically-motivated allegations against Senator Schiff and found they are unsupported by any evidence and are baseless.” > > “The transparently vindictive effort to pursue the Senator has no merit, and if there is any justice left in the Justice Department, this should be the end of the matter,” Bharara added. [How long before the felon makes Canada angry enough to close the border?](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-says-hes-ending-trade-025230951.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — President [Donald Trump](https://apnews.com/hub/donald-trump) said late Thursday that he was ending “all trade negotiations” with Canada because of a [television ad](https://x.com/fordnation/status/1978779503213052337) opposing U.S. [tariffs](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-trump-vows-export-curbs-india-hike-on-deck-china-and-canada-envoys-visit-us-200619355.html) that he said misstated the facts and called “egregious behavior” aimed at influencing U.S. court decisions. > > The post on Trump’s social media site came after Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney said he aims to double his country’s [exports to countries outside the U.S](https://apnews.com/article/canada-carney-trump-budget-exports-c78a41c00167bc1d8177d5d74e34d09f). because of the threat posed by Trump’s tariffs. Trump’s call for an abrupt end to negotiations could further inflame trade tensions that already have been building between the two neighboring countries for months. > > Trump posted, “The Ronald Reagan Foundation has just announced that Canada has fraudulently used an advertisement, which is FAKE, featuring Ronald Reagan speaking negatively about Tariffs.” > > “The ad was for $75,000. They only did this to interfere with the decision of the U.S. Supreme Court, and other courts,” Trump wrote on his social media site. “TARIFFS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE NATIONAL SECURITY, AND ECONOMY, OF THE U.S.A. Based on their egregious behavior, ALL TRADE NEGOTIATIONS WITH CANADA ARE HEREBY TERMINATED.” Oddly enough, I don’t blame him for being mad at the Candians. After all, misstating the facts (i.e. lying) is _his_ forte! [The toddler throws another tantrum, this time online on the White House site.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/white-house-adds-bill-clinton-031201392.html) > [@](#): > > The Trump administration made several additions to the official White House “Major Events Timeline” on Thursday, including former President **Bill Clinton’s** sex scandal and **Hunter Biden’s** drug addiction. > > The [timeline](https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/the-white-house/) on the official White House “About page” features standard entries including the rebuilding of the White House following the War of 1812, the addition of the West Wing in 1902, and the addition of the Oval Office in 1909. Don’t we have some posters here who’ve worked in Hollywood? If someone were to write a script with even a tenth of what the felon has done, would it be bought? After all, there’s a limit to [suspension of disbelief](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_disbelief). ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9032 "2025-10-24T05:50:12Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > “So Trump 28,” said Bannon, the host of the “War Room” podcast. “Trump is gonna be president in 28, and people just ought to get accommodated with that.” > > > > When asked directly about the 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which prohibits any U.S. citizen from serving more than two terms as president, Bannon pointed to how there are “many different alternatives” for Trump to stay in office, but did not provide specifics. > > > > **“At the appropriate time, we’ll lay out what the plan is,” he said, adding, “But there’s a plan.”** > > Ah, so it’s a secret and, without a doubt, unconstitutional plan. Not necessarily. The _election_ is held in '28, but the _inauguration_ isn’t until January '29. So Bannon is technically correct that Trump will be president through the entirety of 2028. Assuming he hasn’t stroked out on the shitter before then, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9033 "2025-10-24T05:52:38Z")
Maybe someone can convince the felon he should qualify for the title of [Eternal Leader](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_leaders_of_North_Korea). ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9034 "2025-10-24T09:42:51Z")
> [@Trump via Monty](#): > > egregious behavior Does this orangutan even know what “egregious” means? I mean, sure, he is not sufficiently self-aware that he could consider his own behaviour; he’s more of a “do guy” than a “think guy”, but man, someone is training that tiny mind in bigly words. That is three whole syllables. And yet… describes this administration. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9035 "2025-10-24T09:58:05Z")
The next Democratic President: “Tear down that ballroom, and restore the First Lady’s offices in the soon-to-be-rebuilt East Wing, according to the original architectural plans. Next, get rid of all that gold crap in the Oval Office. …” I’ll let that be for now. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 10:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9036 "2025-10-24T10:14:27Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Assuming he hasn’t stroked out on the shitter before then, or something. Don’t get our hopes up. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9037 "2025-10-24T10:33:27Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > The next Democratic President: Whatever the likelihood that the country will shake off its fascist fever and elect a rule-of-law president with the mandate to purge the administration of Trump’s influence — such an individual would have a very easy justification to tear down whatever Trump builds on the White House grounds. “We got in there, and it was absolutely riddled with Russian eavesdropping devices and spy gear. Demolition began immediately.” It doesn’t even matter if it’s true or false. No one (outside of the hardest core of Trump loyalists) will question the assertion or object. Everyone will just nod and say, yeah, makes sense. Hammers ahoy! (Of course, it probably _is_ true. A rapid-fire construction project like this, conducted with zero review, approval, or oversight, is almost certainly nefariously contaminated by foreign adversaries. _Especially_ for construction work on the got-damn _White House._ There’s zero chance the Russians, the Chinese, the Israelis, and everybody else under the sun aren’t jockeying to get their people hired onto the work crews. The new ballroom is going to have more microphones than a choir competition.) ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9038 "2025-10-24T11:12:59Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Ah, so it’s a secret and, without a doubt, unconstitutional plan. “I have a Secret Plan to end the Vietnam War in 1968.” Oh, wait, wrong President. I have a few thoughts on term 3+ - The USA is in some war and no time for elections or changing horses midstream - Each viable Democratic candidate has some misfortune and dies or has to drop out - There is nothing unconstitutional with this SCOTUS. You want a ruling on the 22nd? Roberts and Thomas will write an opinion stating that it is unfair to have term limits. - There is nothing a good SCOTUS can do anyway. How many armies do they have under their command? - Go ahead and impeach. 53% isn’t good enough, need 2/3rds. (eta: and an army to enforce) - Anti-Americans (like the Toronto Blue Jays) have dumped poisonous gas in all 50 states. Stay inside, keep your windows closed! ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9039 "2025-10-24T11:20:15Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Roberts and Thomas will write an opinion stating that it is unfair to have term limits. “This Constitutional amendment is unconstitutional.” There. Done. Let’s get lunch. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9040 "2025-10-24T11:29:00Z")
Y’all are missing the easiest way to fix all of these problems. First, you have to remember the felon’s view of “presidentin’” is “So shall it be written, so shall it be done” à la Yul Brynner as Pharaoh in _The Ten Commandments_. All he has to do is issue an executive order declaring the year 2027 will not end. The months will simply be named _First January_, _Second August_, etc. followed by the year number: _2027 AD_ (_Anno Donaldo_). Hell, he’ll just copy one of his favorite dictators, Saparmurat Niyazov, and name the days or months after himself. And, since the year never ends, not only does his term never end, neither does the fiscal year! ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9041 "2025-10-24T14:39:34Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > The next Democratic President: > > “Tear down that ballroom, Unfortunately, it’s way, WAY easier to destroy something than to build it. This applies to the East Wing, trade, alliances, trust, infrastructure, institutional knowledge, etc. etc. The damage done by Trump may never be fully repaired. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=448) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=450)