# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 453
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9102 "2025-10-27T15:37:17Z")
But Trump is ‘trained’. He took a test with elephants and everything. > **[Trump Confesses That He Found Elementary School-Level Test ‘Very Hard’](https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-confesses-that-he-found-elementary-school-level-cognitive-test-very-hard/)** > > The comment came while the president was taking a dig at Democratic congresswomen Jasmine Crockett and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9103 "2025-10-27T17:47:31Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Was the East Wing site checked for asbestos by a trained team? He was notorious in NYC in the 80’s and 90’s for skipping regulations on tear-downs and plans for building. Not the only one: My brother (has) and sister-in-laws brother (died) from some odd lung disease you might attribute to asbestos and other stuff. Many of the first responders to 9/11 have similar problems, I really think he used an AI prompting it to “design the biggest fucking ballroom ever that can attach somewhere to the white house”. He wasn’t around to breath the destruction dust so why should he care? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9104 "2025-10-27T17:54:04Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > He wasn’t around to breath the destruction dust so why should he care? He won’t care anyway, but that stuff does linger in the environment as dust on various surfaces. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9105 "2025-10-27T18:01:09Z")
I’m sure the rest of the WH was tarped off. And maybe the people in the treasury department were told to keep their windows shut. To remove Asbestos you go in with full white hooded suits and masks and take that stuff apart slowly and deliberately. Special vacuums would need to be used (not that kind that blow stuff out). If you’re upgrading your somewhat old house and an inspector finds Asbestos, you will be paying a very big bill to do it right. Trump (along with others) used to have the “right” inspectors on their payroll. $10 for some masks and that’s as much as he’d do for his contractors. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9106 "2025-10-27T18:03:03Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > I’m sure the rest of the WH was tarped off. I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9107 "2025-10-27T18:08:54Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > If you’re upgrading your somewhat old house and an inspector finds Asbestos, you will be paying a very big bill to do it right. Every house built before 1975 is a Superfund Site. But, at least in my state, there are no inspectors checking single family homes prior to demo. So most contractors (and homeowners) do the demo and simply don’t look for problems. By the time an inspector actually sees the project, it’s down to studs or maybe even at wiring rough-in and insulation. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9108 "2025-10-27T18:13:51Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > I’m not. That fine dust gets everywhere. The dumpsters will be filled and floated down the Potomac and into the Chesapeake Bay. Heck, maybe just to a nearby landfill. The massive speed of destruction of the East Wing was of course not done with safety or environmental damage in mind. Just do it before Trump has to live in it again. If he’s fortunate, his big, beautiful, perfect ballroom will be done this time next year. Gold plated. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9109 "2025-10-27T18:28:07Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Let them eat steak. > > Shitty, shitty steak. We’re going to Arby’s! ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9110 "2025-10-28T00:14:25Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > > [@Coriolanus](#): > > > > He wasn’t around to breath the destruction dust so why should he care? > > He won’t care anyway, but that stuff does linger in the environment as dust on various surfaces. Dollars to donuts he’s had to (or at least he forced his tenants to) pay for removal of asbestos from at least one of the properties he’s mismanaged. That’s something he’ll never forget. > [@Coriolanus](#): > > That fine dust gets everywhere. The dumpsters will be filled and floated down the Potomac and into the Chesapeake Bay. Heck, maybe just to a nearby landfill. There’s space in Arlington National Cemetery of course. I wonder which war hero’s grave he’ll desecrate. Perhaps JFK’s. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9111 "2025-10-28T01:08:14Z")
Why is the FBI being ordered to dig into all of these old cases like Amelia Earhart and Hoffa? Are they really just distractions? How childish. More likely Stephen Miller is hoping to pass his Necromancy finals. > **[FBI employees ordered to dig for Jimmy Hoffa-related documents, sources say |...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/27/politics/fbi-search-for-jimmy-hoffa-documents)** > > The Trump administration has ordered FBI employees to immediately search their workstations and digital media for any records pertaining to the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa as the government shutdown continues. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9112 "2025-10-28T01:32:59Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Why is the FBI being ordered to dig into all of these old cases like Amelia Earhart and Hoffa? Are they really just distractions? How childish. Of course this is just a distraction and a childish one at that. For Earhart, there was a Democrat in office, FDR, when she disappeared. So, of course, this is just another attempt at tarring the Democratic Party with something nefarious. “But when Hoffa disappeared, Ford, a Republican, was in office!” you say. Normally I’d say, well, yeah, that does negate this theory. The thing is the felon-in-chief might just consider him to be a RINO or even worse, the baddie who forced such a good man, Nixon, to resign. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9113 "2025-10-28T05:00:27Z")
[Indiana no longer has a governor running the state. The felon is in charge.](https://www.aol.com/indiana-gov-mike-braun-calls-131456443.html) > [@](#): > > The Republican governor of Indiana said Monday he’s scheduling a special session to [redraw congressional boundaries](https://apnews.com/article/what-know-redistricting-states-voting-maps-congress-d3a30328bec161d50a7ab52ac48f23d5) after weeks of pressure to back President Donald Trump’s bid to add more winnable seats with [midcycle redistricting](https://apnews.com/hub/redistricting). > > Trump has [pressed Republicans](https://apnews.com/article/redistricting-indiana-kansas-trump-pressure-2026-election-506c874ec90c7f68167e0683b207dc41) to draw new maps that give the party an [easier path to maintain control](https://apnews.com/article/redistricting-gerrymandering-congress-trump-0af8561b1670032fae3e1d2aec7905f0) of the House in the midterms. But Democrats have pushed back in some states, including Virginia, where a special session Monday marked a first step toward redistricting. > > While Republicans in Texas, Missouri and [North Carolina](https://apnews.com/article/north-carolina-congress-redistricting-trump-5dccfdf94253efb56c59bbb3d3e3a6d8) already have enacted new congressional districts, Indiana lawmakers have been hesitant. Indiana Gov. Mike Braun called for the General Assembly to convene Nov. 3 for the special session. It’s unclear whether enough of the GOP-majority Senate will back new maps. [Yet again, the felon’s flunkies are told to STFU about Garcia.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/federal-judge-orders-doj-dhs-011159140.html) > [@](#): > > A federal judge overseeing Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s criminal case in Tennessee has ordered Department of Homeland Security and Department of Justice officials to refrain from making prejudicial statements about him. > > “DOJ and DHS employees who fail to comply with the requirement to refrain from making any statement that ‘will have a substantial likelihood of materially prejudicing’ this criminal prosecution may be subject to sanctions,” wrote U.S. District Judge Waverly Crenshaw. > > In his memorandum opinion on Monday, Judge Crenshaw stated that government officials, including DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, have made “extrajudicial statements that are troubling, especially where many of them are exaggerated if not simply inaccurate,” specifically citing statements that Abrego Garcia is a member of MS-13. You’ll note the judge also called out the lying liar’s lying liars for lying. [There’s no budget, the government’s shut down, and what’s on the felon’s agenda? Build, baby, build!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-just-announced-construction-project-145844240.html) > [@](#): > > President [Donald Trump](https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Donald+Trump+nj.com&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8) is touting new changes to the Kennedy Center amid [criticism](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/white-house-shuts-down-top-193415188.html) over the construction of his planned ballroom. > > Trump has [faced fierce backlash from critics](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/hillary-clintons-daughter-pens-emotional-133900283.html) after tearing down the East Wing of the White House for his $300 million, 90,000-square-foot ballroom, despite previously pledging to not “interfere” with the historic building’s existing structure. The White House has [maintained](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/white-house-shuts-down-top-193415188.html) that Trump and individual donors, including companies such as Amazon, Apple and Google, are funding the construction. > > In [a post](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115444894900287475) on his Truth Social platform early Monday, Trump pointed to upcoming renovations at the Kennedy Center, including its exterior columns, painted in white, which replaced what he described as “the fake looking gold paint that was there for years.” What? _He’s_ complaining about “ake looking gold paint”? But don’t let that stop you from listening to his _real_ agenda. > [@](#): > > “Many major improvements are being made, including seating, carpeting, wall coverings, ceilings, chandeliers, stages, heating and A/C, etc., to what will soon be the finest Arts and Entertainment Center anywhere in the World,” Trump wrote, calling the prominent hub the “new TRUMP KENNEDY, whoops, I mean, KENNEDY CENTER.” > > Trump also said the center will remain fully open during construction. [Given the felon’s propensity to remember nothing, to chicken out, and to throw supporters under the bus, he may have made this announcement just a touch too soon.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-names-2028-ticket-thinks-141707699.html) > [@](#): > > President **Donald Trump** theorized about an “unstoppable” ticket for the 2028 presidential election on Monday, naming Vice President **JD Vance** and Secretary of State **Marco Rubio** as potential running mates who could hang onto the White House. > > The president answered a slew of questions aboard Air Force One on his way to Tokyo, where he will meet with new Prime Minister **Sanae Takaichi** on the second leg of his [Asia tour](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-heads-malaysia-japan-south-korea-xi-meeting-looms-rcna239437). > > As part of an answer to a question about a [potential third term](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-not-ruling-third-term-105705072.html), Trump told reporters that the administration had “some very good people.” “Very good people”, he says? I think we all here know what _that_ means. [Want to get naturalized? Make sure you don’t tick off the Stasi!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/opinion-trump-citizenship-test-could-153000460.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > He began with an [unconstitutional](https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca1/25-1169/25-1169-2025-10-03.html) executive [order](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/) purporting to restrict birthright citizenship for the first time in over 125 years. The administration’s latest move has been revising the naturalization test, making it [harder](https://www.npr.org/2025/10/16/nx-s1-5566732/the-trump-administration-is-rolling-out-changes-to-the-u-s-citizenship-test), and perhaps impossible, for the most perceptive immigrants to become citizens. > > In the past, aspiring citizens had to [answer](https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/questions-and-answers/OoC_100_Questions_2008_Civics_Test_V1.pdf) at least six of 10 questions correctly, in an oral examination drawn from a pool of 100. As of last week, however, new applicants will be given 20 questions, from a pool of 128, with a passing score of 12. > > According to the [director of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Service](https://youtu.be/bGLfrdeHKO4), the old test was “just too easy.” As explained by a [spokesperson](https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/uscis-unveils-first-changes-to-naturalization-test-in-multi-step-overhaul-of-american-citizenship), **the new test, in conjunction with “neighborhood investigations,” will weed out those who are not “fully assimilated” and cannot “contribute to America’s greatness.”** If you’re interested in what the approved answers are for the new test, the felon’s flacks have you covered with [this PDF guide](https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/document/questions-and-answers/2025-Civics-Test-128-Questions-and-Answers.pdf). An observant person will recognize a certain tome the felon and his fools, along with other magaflatearthers, assert is something our country is based on is not mentioned even once. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9114 "2025-10-28T07:05:49Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > gold paint He doesn’t do gold paint, does he? It’s a difficult color. I assumed everything he did in gold was plated or gold leaf. So I can understand the horror he must feel. And of course he’s going to rename the Kennedy Center. Opening night of the non-gay, non-union Cats. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9115 "2025-10-28T14:54:42Z")
Meanwhile, somewhere on the Pacific Ocean: > **[U.S. strikes 4 more alleged drug boats in the Pacific, killing 14 and leaving...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-boat-strikes-pacific-ocean-hegseth/)** > > The U.S. on Monday struck four more vessels that the Pentagon says were trafficking narcotics in the eastern Pacific Ocean, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9116 "2025-10-28T14:59:54Z")
This isn’t the first time they targeted boats in the Pacific. My question – which I haven’t heard anyone raise or answer – is Where are these boats coming from? And where are they supposed to be going? The ones in the Caribbean I can sort of understand – Trump claims that they’re coming from Venezuela and going to the US. That at least makes some geographic sense. But Venezuela doesn’t border the Pacific, so where are they coming from? And where the hell are they supposed to be going? It’s a lot longer trip around the western coast of Mexico to the US. Are these boats planning on gong through tthe Panama Canal? Meeting up with Mother Ships in the Pacific? This makes no sense at all. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9117 "2025-10-28T15:03:57Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > But Venezuela doesn’t border the Pacific, so where are they coming from? Colombia. We have always been at war with Colombia. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9118 "2025-10-28T15:05:36Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Where are these boats coming from? Colombia is the only possible answer, unless they’re coming through the Panama Canal. Which a small fishing boat or cruiser probably wouldn’t do. But, as you point out, a trip from the Pacific coast of SA to the USA coast is a helluva lot longer trip than from SA through the Caribbean to the USA Gulf Coast. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9119 "2025-10-28T15:14:29Z")
I don’t know which kind of boats these “smugglers” have, but it’s like 1700 miles from Venezuela to even the closest landing site in the US. Most of what people consider “smuggler’s boats” have a range of several hundred miles. I just don’t get what the regime thinks that they are proving with this bullshit. Do they? ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9120 "2025-10-28T15:51:50Z")
Their base doesn’t know geography, and if they did they wouldn’t care anyway. “Trump’s blowin’ up drug dealers! Yeah baby!! USA! USA! USA!” ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9121 "2025-10-28T15:57:57Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > “Trump’s blowin’ up drug dealers! Yeah baby!! USA! USA! USA!” And a significant fraction of those people are addicted to Oxy. And their kids buy illegal drugs cut with fentanyl. (which doesn’t come from Venezuela, but whatever) Not MY drugs! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=452) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=454)