# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
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check all that apply

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**Author:** ![bobsmom101](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobsmom101/32/2867_2.png) [@bobsmom101](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobsmom101)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9183 "2025-10-30T00:11:06Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> But when it comes to the government shutdown, Trump barely seems to be paying attention.

The shutdown hasn’t inconvenienced him in the slightest, so why should be pay attention?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9184 "2025-10-30T00:15:46Z")

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Don’t get him started on “having nuclear”.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9185 "2025-10-30T01:03:10Z")

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While they’re converting to steam powered launch systems they can convert to coal.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9186 "2025-10-30T01:11:25Z")

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The article pointed out that he **did** pay attention during his first term. I think this is yet another indication of precipitous cognitive decline (as if we need another indication).

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9187 "2025-10-30T02:01:57Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Does Trump know

The answer to any question beginning this way is almost always and invariably “no”

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9188 "2025-10-30T02:04:55Z")

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Trump orders US nuclear weapons testing to resume immediately

> **[Trump orders US nuclear weapons testing to begin 'immediately' after Russia...](https://www.google.com/share.google?q=9TsfGWNhXT4DrRyZy)**
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> Trump orders immediate resumption of U.S. nuclear weapons testing to match global programs, citing Russia and China's advancing capabilities in major policy shift.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9189 "2025-10-30T02:11:20Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Don’t get him started on “having nuclear”.

[Too late! He’s already gotten started on sharing our nuclear powered submarine technology with another country.](https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/southkorea/20251030/trump-says-s-korea-has-approval-to-build-nuclear-powered-submarine)

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> U.S. President Donald Trump said Thursday he has granted approval for South Korea to build a nuclear-powered submarine, adding the submarine will be built at shipyards in Philadelphia.
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> Trump wrote the message on his Truth Social account a day after he and President Lee Jae Myung agreed on the need for Seoul to secure fuel for nuclear-powered submarines during their summit held on the occasion of the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation events.
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> “I have given them approval to build a nuclear powered submarine, rather than the old fashioned, and far less nimble, diesel powered submarines that they have now,” Trump wrote.

And what do you think the metric for that decision was? If you’re standing, you better sit down. If you’re sitting down, you’d better lie down. If you’re lying down, you might as well dig a hole to hide in for the duration.

> [@](#):
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> The approval was granted on the grounds that the U.S.-South Korea military alliance is “stronger than ever before,” the U.S. president said, adding, “A great trip, with a great president of South Korea.”

[Such a great president, too, gifting the felon with this hilarious item.](https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/foreignaffairs/20251030/trumps-crown-gift-triggers-trolling-jokes-after-no-kings-protests)

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> SEATTLE — When South Korea’s President Lee Jae Myung placed a gleaming gold crown before U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday, the moment was meant to symbolize friendship and shared prosperity. Instead, it quickly set off a wave of jokes and pointed commentary across social media, where critics saw the gesture as something more than ceremonial.
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> The ceremony in Gyeongju, held during Trump’s state visit for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit, featured the presentation of the Grand Order of Mugunghwa, South Korea’s highest civilian honor, along with a replica crown modeled after one from the ancient Silla Kingdom.
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> Officials in Seoul described the gesture as a tribute to “a new golden age” in the Korea–U.S. alliance and a nod to the historic ties between the two nations.
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> But online, the symbolism was met with skepticism and satire.
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> The gift came just after a wave of “No Kings” protests held recently in cities across the United States, where thousands of demonstrators denounced what they called Trump’s increasingly authoritarian rhetoric. Marchers in New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and Atlanta carried signs reading “No Kings in America” and “Democracy, Not Dynasty,” framing the rallies as a warning against any return to unchecked presidential power.
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> “The timing couldn’t be funnier,” one Reddit user wrote. “You give a man who just said he’s not a king an actual crown. That’s comedy gold.” Another added, “They are simultaneously appeasing him while trolling him. It’s a masterful play, honestly.” A third commenter chimed in, “Koreans are extremely funny. This is S-tier trolling and I’m absolutely here for it.”

The Korean president gave Diarrhea Fail a _ **crown** _. That’s awesome!

[Do your job right, get fired. That’s the message from the traitor.](https://www.aol.com/articles/prosecutors-suspended-calling-january-6-181439537.html)

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> WASHINGTON (Reuters) -The U.S. Justice Department placed two prosecutors on leave on Wednesday, hours after they referred to Trump supporters who stormed the Capitol on January 6, 2021, as “a mob of rioters” in a sentencing memo, said four people familiar with the matter.
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> Assistant U.S. Attorneys Samuel White and Carlos Valdivia were placed on administrative leave and locked out of their government devices, one day before their scheduled appearance in federal court on Thursday for Taylor Taranto’s sentencing.
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> Taranto was convicted on gun charges after driving to former President Barack Obama’s Washington neighborhood in June 2023, shortly after then-former President Donald Trump posted what he asserted was Obama’s address online.

And the traitor/felon is doing this for such a fine upstanding model of a true American!

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> Taranto was convicted on gun charges after having “perpetrated a hoax” on June 28, 2023, in which he falsely claimed he would cause a car bomb to drive into the National Institute of Standards and Technology.
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> The next day, after Trump posted Obama’s purported address on social media, Taranto reposted it and began live-streaming himself as he drove into Obama’s neighborhood in Washington, D.C. In the video, he said he was searching for “tunnels” to access private residences. Eventually he parked and walked into a restricted area protected by the U.S. Secret Service where he stated: “Gotta get the shot, stop at nothing to get the shot.”
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> In a search of his van, law enforcement found two firearms, a stabilizing brace and hundreds of rounds of ammunition.

There’s zero doubt that jackass would have killed Obama, or even the first Black man he saw believing the man to be Obama.

All of my life I have touted our system of government as upholding the rule of law. That is, all of my life until the felon first tarnished the Oval Office and disgraced our country.

[Hehehe. I guess Kai didn’t learn how to play golf from her gramps.](https://sports.yahoo.com/article/kai-trumps-embarrassing-golf-score-201956365.html)

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> Golf fans have been debating if Kai legitimately deserves to compete on the LPGA Tour.
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> On Tuesday night, [a social media user posted](https://x.com/CattardSlim/status/1983324151986413584) this message on X: “Kai Trump came in last at +58 in a Junior tournament. DEI is back!”
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> It’s worth noting there’s no record of Trump shooting 58-over par at a tournament. She did, however, [finish 52-over at the Junior Invitational](https://www.irishstar.com/sport/golf/kai-trump-struggles-at-golf-34924570) at Sage Valley earlier this year. Obviously, that’s not where she wants to be on the leaderboard.

As I mentioned upthread, I’m not buying the LPGA’s explanation on why she’s getting this particular slice.

[I guess it’s time for the magaflatearthers to start mocking Biden and Obama, since their idol can’t go down steps.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-79-grips-railing-dear-055958257.html)

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> President Donald Trump’s cautious arrival in South Korea has raised further questions about the 79-year-old’s health.
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> Trump gripped the railing of Air Force One as he took special care to walk down the steps after landing in Busan, South Korea, on Wednesday.

Let’s check out the reasoning for this in the felon’s own (let’s call them) words.

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> “I’m very careful. You know, when I walk downstairs—like I’m on stairs like these stairs—I walk very slowly,“ [Trump confessed](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-79-admits-struggles-descending-154046985.html) to military leaders at Marine Corps base in Quantico.
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> “Nobody has to set a record. Just try not to fall because it doesn’t work out well… Just walk nice and easy. You don’t have to set any record.”

Who did it better?

[FLOTUS?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/melania-trump-halloween-display-gives-072523002.html)

or

[Connie Duncan?](https://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/zits/s-3892978)

[Everyone knows the felon doesn’t (can’t?) read, but it turns out neither do his flacks!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/3-words-letitia-james-mortgage-090000016.html)

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> NORFOLK, Virginia — The politically charged mortgage fraud indictment against New York Attorney General Letitia James accuses her of lying to lenders in order to get a favorable loan rate on a second home. She then rented the property, the indictment alleges, in violation of the terms of the loan she obtained.
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> But there’s a glaring issue with that accusation: The mortgage contract James signed does not prohibit renting out the house, according to POLITICO’s review of the contract and legal and real estate experts. In fact, the key language in the contract expressly allows renting under certain conditions.
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> That potentially fatal flaw in the indictment is one among [several problems critics have identified](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/09/what-tyranny-looks-like-james-allies-rush-to-condemn-her-indictment-by-trump-as-politically-motivated-00601009) in the case against James, a Democrat who sued Donald Trump and secured a multi-million dollar judgment that was [later thrown out](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/21/new-york-civil-fraud-judgment-trump-ruling-00517727). James’ allies have criticized the indictment as political vengeance.

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9190 "2025-10-30T02:21:09Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump orders US nuclear weapons testing to resume immediately

Jokes about violating the Partial Test Ban Treaty by dropping one in the open on Mar-A-Lago aside, and the whole thing being absolutely stupid aside, does he think we’ve just had the capacity for criticality testing kept up and running at the Nevada Test Site for the last thirty years ready to go? And last I checked, maintenance of the nuclear program including any testing was under the auspices of the the DOE, not the DOD.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9191 "2025-10-30T02:33:37Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> The Korean president gave Diarrhea Fail a _ **crown** _. That’s awesome!

I was picturing a Burger King crown. ☹

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**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9192 "2025-10-30T02:51:15Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> “I have given them approval to build a nuclear powered submarine, rather than the old fashioned, and far less nimble, diesel powered submarines that they have now,” Trump wrote.

(Quote is from what Monty quoted, not from Monty directly)

This is singularly stupid.

Diesel-electric subs can be _quieter_ than nuclear subs when they rig for silent running, because nuke subs need to run pumps to keep the nuclear pile cooled. Also, diesels can be quite “nimble” as he puts it (most are probably smaller and can turn faster than a comparable nuke boat) - but their effective range is lower than nuclear subs.

But why does South Korea need subs that can range way out into the Pacific? The U.S. Navy’s subs need to do that, as they have a global mission, but South Korea mostly needs to defend against North Korea (and possibly China or Russia, in the event of a broader war) but they sure don’t need to put an attack boat, much less a boomer, out east of Japan.

All this is, is Donald Trump saying “nuclear is better” without any appreciation of the realities of the situation, and South Korea taking advantage of this to add the shipyard in Philadelphia to the “huge amount of investment” they’re making in America, so they can get a better trade deal out of this malAdministration.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9193 "2025-10-30T03:12:48Z")

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I’d say the odds are even money that Trump will order an atmospheric test so he can photo-op a mushroom cloud.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9194 "2025-10-30T03:19:48Z")

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@Fear_Itself SunUp

Of course it’s stupid. It’s the felon after all. Add this to your points. What’s so wrong about old fashioned technology when he’s demanding the aircraft carriers to use old technology?

Why does South Korea need a nuclear powered submarine? They don’t. And given a fairly recent stunt which got a Korean president impeached, I’d say South Korea having control over nuclear weapons is likely not a recommended course of action either.

Yes, this is not only the felon saying nuclear is better, but the same felon not understanding the difference between nuclear power and nuclear weapons.

@Fear_Itself

There’s no way I’d bet against you on that. And that’ll be before the end of the year. Hey, I wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to get an atmospheric test done _today_ to pressure Xi.

And all of this is on top of his stunts to militarize space in contravention of treaties to which the United States is a signatory.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> And all of this is on top of his stunts to militarize space in contravention of treaties to which the United States is a signatory.

Now my money in on ‘An atmospheric test in space!’

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9196 "2025-10-30T03:30:21Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> ‘An atmospheric test in space!’

I swear I heard “Pigs in Space!” as I read that.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9197 "2025-10-30T03:32:31Z")

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Me too! Great minds think alike, and all that.

Besides that, where would such a test take place? I don’t think they can blow up Bikini Atoll any more, and Nevada tests might be not as practical as they were in the 1950s.

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9198 "2025-10-30T03:33:54Z")

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Blue Jays win to bring the World Series back to really far upstate New York, i.e. Toronto.

Will they boo the National Anthem? Absolutely. But all in good fun.

If they do it in game 6 and game 7, Trump just might wreck the West Wing that Theodore Roosevelt built, legend is with his own hands.

Argh, he’s already meeting with Xi. Do they need some help with Nuclear Subs?

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9199 "2025-10-30T03:37:33Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Besides that, where would such a test take place? I don’t think they can blow up Bikini Atoll any more, and Nevada tests might be not as practical as they were in the 1950s.

A city with a Democrat mayor.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9200 "2025-10-30T03:59:44Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> the odds are even money that Trump will order an atmospheric test so he can photo-op a mushroom cloud.

Perhaps he’ll observe it in the same way he observed the solar eclipse in his first term.

[![](https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2017_34/2127971/170821-trump-eclipse-348p-rs.JPG) ](https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2017_34/2127971/170821-trump-eclipse-348p-rs.JPG)

Protective goggles and lead shielding are for wokes.

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9201 "2025-10-30T07:02:33Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Does Trump know the nuclear fleet uses no oil or coal?

It is, however, steam-powered.

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