# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> That is what Putin wants, and Trump is Putin’s useful idiot.

Not anymore. They broke up when Putin refused to end the war and give Trump all the credit so he could get his Noble.

Trump isn’t invading Canada or Greenland. That’s just empty blather of the “everyone should do what I want because I’m the most special boy and you all want me to be happy” variety that he constantly engages in.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> Super Catholic Boy will not be filing for divorce in this lifetime.

His wife better stay away from open windows about street level.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9244 "2025-11-01T04:18:02Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> They could be, yet they’d be a coast-to-coast “state” about the size of California (EV vote-wise). Yet if the whole country is a “state” they only get 2 senators and about whatever Electoral Votes and Representatives as California. Annexed as a territory they cannot vote.

If they were annexed as one or more territories, they would get, as you say, zero representation in the federal legislature, something their territories currently do have. Why would they abandon that?

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If you are not yet familiar with Gzero Media, you might enjoy their “Puppet Regime” series.

The muppet show meets US politics\*

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/g-4OXJ13ocI/maxresdefault.jpg "Putin hears he will lose all of Ukraine | PUPPET REGIME") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-4OXJ13ocI)

\* not as good as “Spitting Image” but pretty cool anyway

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> Trump has all the wars he thinks he put an end to in his imagination. He does not want to start a war with Canada just to get their Arctic oil rights. Greenland should be enough.

“Enough” is not a Trumpian concept.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9247 "2025-11-01T08:18:48Z")

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[This just in! Trump claims credit for a Nobel Prize during his administration!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pathetic-critics-clown-trump-absolutely-035718957.html)

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> President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) on Thursday appeared to claim some credit for the Nobel Prize in physics for work done decades before he even became president.
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> The president shared a quote on Truth Social that he said was from Energy Secretary [Chris Wright](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-chris-wright-energy-secretary_n_67991041e4b0524b826ca51d) ― a former fracking exec ― saying the award this year given for work in quantum physics is, by extension, an award for Trump.
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> “Quantum computing, along with AI and Fusion, are the three signature Trump science efforts,” the quote attributed to Wright read. “Trump 47 racks up his first Nobel Prize!!”

Yeah, his first. And when was the work done for this high honor?

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> This year’s prize went to John Clarke (UC Berkeley), Michel H. Devoret (Yale and UC Santa Barbara), and John M. Martinis (UC Santa Barbara and Qolab), for “the discovery of macroscopic quantum mechanical tunnelling and energy quantisation in an electric circuit,” [according to a news release from the Nobel Foundation](https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2025/press-release/).
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> The trio won for a breakthrough they achieved when they [worked together at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory](https://newscenter.lbl.gov/2025/10/07/former-berkeley-lab-scientist-john-clarke-wins-2025-nobel-prize-in-physics/) in 1984 and 1985, long before even Trump’s first presidency, which began in 2017.

1984 and 1985? Isn’t that when he embarked on his casino failures and when he was getting sued for discriminatory housing practices?

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> …  
> the discovery of macroscopic quantum mechanical tunnelling and energy quantisation in an electric circuit

Look, I’d be willing to give him the Nobel Prize for literature if he could just give a simple explanation of the topic.

But we all know that just the multi-syllable word “macroscopic” is so far out of his vocabulary it could itself be tunnelling away at light speed.

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> That is what Putin wants, and Trump is Putin’s useful idiot.

[![Imgur](https://i.imgur.com/fCOiGQl.jpeg "imgur.com") ](https://imgur.com/fCOiGQl)

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This is Awesome!

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9251 "2025-11-01T17:03:16Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> He’s more white Christian nationalist than Roman Catholic, and they couldn’t give two shits about divorce. By being married to a heathen Hindu, he’s what they called “unequally yoked.” He’s already laying the groundwork to get out of this marriage by wishing out loud about Usha’s lack of Christian faith.

I’m not up on all the allowed reasons, but the Catholic Church does allow annulments for certain things. An in-law of mine got one when it became apparent her spouse did not want children. Would failure to submit to the faith be an allowable reason?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
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> [@Smapti](#):
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> > [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> > the odds are even money that Trump will order an atmospheric test so he can photo-op a mushroom cloud.
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> Perhaps he’ll observe it in the same way he observed the solar eclipse in his first term.
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> [https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t\_fit-760w,f\_auto,q\_auto:best/newscms/2017\_34/2127971/170821-trump-eclipse-348p-rs.JPG](https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-760w,f_auto,q_auto:best/newscms/2017_34/2127971/170821-trump-eclipse-348p-rs.JPG)
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> Protective goggles and lead shielding are for wokes.

With our luck, the exposure to radiation will give him superpowers…

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Vance wasn’t Catholic when he and Usha married. If he wanted to, he could get annulment based on their marriage not being valid by the Catholic church’s standards in the first place - the basis would be that the marriage lacks canonical form.

I remember a divorced co-worker of mine getting married to a Catholic in the Catholic church because his first marriage wasn’t recognized by the Church - he and his first wife were married on the beach by a non-denominational pastor in Jamaica. Ditto for a woman I did some freelance work for - she’d been married the first time in a Pentecostal church and that marriage wasn’t recognized either.

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This makes me reflect on how treatment of prisoners in the Middle East had so much to do with why groups like ISIS are so much more threatening than one might expect from a grassroots resistance movement (it’s not exactly Astroturfed, but SOMEBODY dropped some Miracle-Gro on that sod).

Is it the PLAN to turn the entire planet against America, one region at a time? Messrs Niven and Pournelle have a nice novel called _Footfall_ that suggests how that might not work out to their best advantage (@Andy_L knows what I’m talking about.).

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Messrs Niven and Pournelle have a nice novel called _Footfall_ that suggests how that might not work out to their best advantage (@Andy_L knows what I’m talking about.).

Trump’s gonna drop an asteroid on India?

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Trump’s gonna drop an asteroid on India?

It was a comet, and it was in _Lucifer’s Hammer_. _Footfall_ appears to be a completely different story.

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> It was a comet, and it was in _Lucifer’s Hammer_. _Footfall_ appears to be a completely different story.

Footfall definitely also has an asteroid drop. Per wiki;

> The Fithp respond to the defeat of their invasion by dropping a large asteroid into the Indian Ocean, whose impact results in environmental damage on a global scale, particularly the almost total destruction of India

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**Post date:** [November 1, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9258 "2025-11-01T20:40:20Z")

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I have been summoned!

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“I’M GONNA INVADE NIGERIA! GIVE ME A PEACE PRIZE!”

> **['Guns-a-blazing': Trump threatens new 'fast, vicious, and sweet' foreign...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-threat-against-nigeria-military/)**
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> Donald Trump on Saturday threatened military action on foreign soil, escalating previous remarks about the nation.The president previously raised the possibility of sanctions against Nigeria for allegedly failing to rein in the persecution of...

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For some reason, I read that as “In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida Nigeria”

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IIRC, in _Footfall_, the Earthlings were subjected to an interplanetary invasion. Although it was completely asymmetric warfare in favor of the invaders, the Earthlings prevailed, due to out-of-the-box thinking (and opposable thumbs).

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