# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 473
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2025, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9502 "2025-11-09T22:40:12Z")
“I’m gonna give everyone $2000!” > **[Trump met with ridicule as he doubles down on $2,000 check to 'irresponsible...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-met-with-ridicule-as-he-doubles-down-on-2000-check-to-irresponsible-americans/)** > > In an effort to drum up support for his widely unpopular tariffs as the Supreme Court weighs the legality of them, President Donald Trump doubled down Sunday morning on his previous promises to pay out "a dividend of at least" $2,000 in stimulus... ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9503 "2025-11-09T23:01:18Z")
By George, I think he’s got it! > **[Trump Renews Attacks on Obamacare in New Push Over Government Shutdown](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/09/us/politics/trump-shutdown-obamacare.html?unlocked_article_code=1.z08.UYPP.D9876XKrxjtY&smid=url-share)** > > The president claimed that the Affordable Care Act benefited insurance companies over people, saying he would work with both parties on the issue “once the Government is open.” Ok, not really. He is stumbling vaguely toward the crux of the matter, but his “solution” is completely off base. > President Trump took a new line toward ending the government shutdown this weekend, attacking the Affordable Care Act tax credits that Democrats are demanding be extended and calling instead for the subsidies to go directly to consumers. > > Through social media posts, the president renewed his attacks on the Affordable Care Act, commonly called Obamacare, which he has spent years assailing and promising to replace, but to no avail. Mr. Trump suggested that premiums for consumers and share prices for insurers had risen too much in the 15 years since the law passed, and he was ready to work on a solution — if Democrats reopened the government first. > > “I stand ready to work with both Parties to solve this problem once the Government is open,” he wrote on Sunday. > … No, Donnie, the insurance companies will never let that happen. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9504 "2025-11-10T00:38:38Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > He is stumbling vaguely toward the crux of the matter That’s the next step after having concepts of a plan. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9505 "2025-11-10T02:35:57Z")
> [@](#): > > “I stand ready to work with both Parties to solve this problem once the Government is open,” he wrote on Sunday. Should be [/quote] “I stand ready to work with the Republican party to solve shake down the insurance companies once the Government is open,” he wrote on Sunday. [/quote] ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9506 "2025-11-10T03:17:48Z")
The Democrats get nothing out of ending the shutdown. It’s the Schumer Shutdown and somehow Trump and his faithful GOP senators ended the horrors the Democrats caused. As of now we’re waiting for Cornyn to vote and be the fucking hero. If they couldn’t do it literally, the Democrats needed to hold Trump’s feet to the fire metaphorically. He should pay some political capital for this. It’s just like his pseudo-State-of-the-Union where all the Dems did was hold up paddles instead of everyone of them getting escorted out or leaving and rallying on the Capitol steps. They need to win next November. Maybe not gain one of the houses but make things closer. Fuck it, win one or both of the houses. Where is their Karl Rove? ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9507 "2025-11-10T03:29:00Z")
At the risk of sounding like I approve of the capitulation (I most certainly do not), I have to wonder if the effects of the 10% air travel slowdown — coupled with ~~Dummy’s~~ Duffy’s threat to shut things down completely just before (US) Thanksgiving — might have been a factor. I would imagine the shit would splatter all over everyone regardless of party, and Schumer&Co may have been afraid of the fallout, especially since “It’s the Democrats’ fault you couldn’t spend precious time with Dear Old Grandma” would have been plastered all over the media. Or perhaps it wasn’t a factor at all. Doesn’t matter: giving in in return for a “premise of a promise” was downright shameful. I can only hope this greases the skids for Schumer to be replaced by someone with a spine. ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9508 "2025-11-10T03:41:58Z")
I’m hoping that the Democrats held out long enough, and stated the reason for doing so (to keep medical insurance premiums from going through the roof), that when the premiums go through the roof the majority of people will know to blame it on the Republicans. Sure Trump and Faux News will try to spin it like it’s the Democrats fault anyway, but I’ve been heartened recently because it seems that other than the MAGA diehards, people aren’t as clueless as I had feared. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9509 "2025-11-10T03:44:56Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > At the risk of sounding like I approve of the capitulation (I most certainly do not), I have to wonder if the effects of the 10% air travel slowdown — coupled with ~~Dummy’s~~ Duffy’s threat to shut things down completely just before (US) Thanksgiving — might have been a factor. I have no doubt of it. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9510 "2025-11-10T07:18:10Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > “I’m gonna give everyone $2000!” Once again, we need Mister Submliminal! The felon: “I’m gonna give everyone $2000…” Mr. Submliminal: “…which I scammed out of them to begin with!” > [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > That’s the next step after having concepts of a plan. We’re talking about the felon, right? It’s a whiff of a plan, not a concept of a plan. [Not even the Grinch went this far to make people miserable.](https://www.aol.com/news/usda-orders-states-stop-issuing-182054277.html) > [@](#): > > The US Department of Agriculture ordered states to stop issuing full food stamp benefits for November and to “immediately undo” any issuance of the full allotments, after a Supreme Court justice on Friday paused a lower court order requiring the agency to pay Americans their full assistance. > > In the [Saturday directive](https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fns.usda.gov%2Fsnap%2Fupdated-supplemental-nutrition-assistance-program-snap-november-benefit-issuance11-8&data=05%7C02%7CGreg.Clary%40cnn.com%7C460a88cc521d4f5d7d2808de1fb63447%7C0eb48825e8714459bc72d0ecd68f1f39%7C0%7C0%7C638983064628128777%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=q%2BOMxWkRGjmYCuX8lHofcfzb5DgQ7DWHerJWWLpQBJg%3D&reserved=0), obtained by CNN, the USDA told states to instead proceed with issuing partial benefits — which will provide 65% of the maximum allotments for November — as ordered by the same lower court judge earlier in the week. (Many recipients will receive [less than 65% of their usual assistance](https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/05/politics/november-snap-benefits-usda-plan?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) because of the way food stamp benefits are calculated.) > > “To the extent States sent full SNAP payment files for November 2025, this was unauthorized,” Patrick Penn, a top USDA official, wrote in the memo. “Accordingly, States must immediately undo any steps taken to issue full SNAP benefits for November 2025.” > > States that fail to comply could face a cancellation of federal cost-sharing of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, as well as be financially responsible for over issuances of benefits, the memo said. > > This latest directive leaves in limbo the roughly 1 in 8 Americans who depend on the nation’s larger anti-hunger program. Over the past week, the USDA has issued guidance multiple times as lawsuits over the agency’s decision not to tap into a contingency fund to pay November benefits have worked their way through federal courts. [The felon’s fools say they can now send Garcia to Liberia.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/final-hurdles-cleared-deport-abrego-162009214.html) > [@](#): > > President [Donald Trump](https://www.foxnews.com/category/person/donald-trump)’s administration called on a federal judge to approve the deportation of Kilmar Abrego Garcia to Liberia on Friday, arguing all legal hurdles had been cleared. > > The Friday filing is the latest in the administration’s efforts to [deport Abrego Garcia](https://www.foxnews.com/category/us/immigration/deportation) a second time following his return from El Salvador earlier this year. The Justice Department called on U.S. District Court Judge Paula Xinis to clear the deportation, saying Abrego Garcia had failed to establish that he would face persecution in Liberia. > > “Petitioner’s claims are procedurally barred multiple times over and fail on the merits in any event,” the DOJ argued. “This Court should therefore dissolve its preliminary injunction and permit the government to remove Petitioner to Liberia.” > > Attorneys for the U.S. also said Liberia has made “sufficient and credible” arguments that Abrego Garcia will not face harm. Except, of course, for the harm of being sent to a country he has no ties to, and in which he has committed no crimes. And LIberia’s prisons are not exactly model facilities. Short aside: [Governor Newsom has a doozie of a nickname for the felon!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/newsom-hits-tired-trump-brutal-022111209.html) > [The Nodfather quotes the _Dunning-Kruger Times_.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/sure-looks-trump-believes-satirical-214736648.html) > [@](#): > > During his Sunday morning torrent of Truth Social posts, Trump amplified a headline about his perceived nemesis, former President Barack Obama. > > The problem is that the headline is from a satirical news website that published it nine months ago. > > The article by the Dunning-Kruger Times says that the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) ― an agency created by Trump’s own administration ― halted a $2.6 million annual payment to the former president for “royalties associated with Obamacare.” > > Trump [posted a screenshot Sunday](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115520378078620283) on Truth Social of what appears to be an X post about the fictional article, pairing it with a one-word message: “WOW!” Wow, indeed. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9511 "2025-11-10T11:21:09Z")
[“Among those named were Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, John Eastman, Christina Bobb and Boris Epshteyn, including co-defendants in the Georgia case and four who pleaded guilty.”](https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-donald-trump-pardons-fake-electors-rudy-giuliani-mark-meadows-john-eastman-11019555) Why bother with pardoning them now for their work in trying to overturn the election back in 2020? Nobody cares anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9512 "2025-11-10T12:39:54Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Why bother with pardoning them now for their work in trying to overturn the election back in 2020? Nobody cares anymore. Not that I belive the nodfather had anything to do with planning this, but here’s the possible rationale. - Situation 1: He doesn’t even try to run for a third team. - - Any Republican candidate who does not fawn all over this decision, supporting it as righting the terrible wrong done by those evil Democrats will not win. - Situation 2: He does try to run for a third team. - - The magaflatearthers will adore him for pardoning those “legitimate electors” those evil Democrats punished for trying to preserve our democracy. In either case, this pardon had to happen to ensure the magaflatearthers–which is now, and has been for quite some time, the entire Republican voting population–will vote for the “right candidate”. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9513 "2025-11-10T13:24:37Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > His writing ability has devolved to the point where if he had anyone in his family that cared about him, they would take his phone away from him. _ **We had to do that with my dad when he began writing like this on Facebook.** _ > > “If affordability is you issue, VOTE REPUBLICAN! Energy costs, as and example, are plummeting — getting close to 2 Dollar a gallon gasoline. When energy goes down, everything else follows, and it has!!! President DJT” (Emphasis mine) For a second I misread that as you posting a FB quote from _your dad_ because of the part I emphasized, and I was going to say “jeez, yeah, sorry about your dad-- he really is losing his ability to write coherently”. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9514 "2025-11-10T14:24:53Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Why bother with pardoning them now for their work in trying to overturn the election back in 2020? Nobody cares anymore. Several reasons: 1. Pardoning people who get caught doing your dirty work, will make it easier to recruit others to do your dirty work in the future. 2. If you are making the claim that the 2020 election was stolen and that your trying to steal it back was fully justified, leaving the “innocent” people who “patriotically” helped you in the endevor in jail is a bad look. 3. Rewarding people with pardons is a good way convince them to keep their mouths shut. Its not as though its costs him anything to include them on the list. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9515 "2025-11-10T17:50:26Z")
The case in New York is dying a slow death. Can’t find a prosecutor and the Judge must be following the law or something to the **T** as he has threatened to dismiss the case. Some of those you named pleaded guilty and went to jail. Not sure if any of them remains there. Meadows and Giuliani pleaded not guilty and stand to benefit the most if the case just goes away. So why pardon the former “Mayor of America” just yet? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9516 "2025-11-10T19:17:53Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > So if insurance companies are removed from the equation (Yay!), where would one “buy a policy”? From the same companies, but they’ll they go back to those pre-Obamacare plans, which cost you six cents a day, but don’t actually cover anything. MAGAs will praise Trump for “Bringing back affordable health insurance”, at least until one of them actually needs healthcare, and ends up bankrupt. Of course, when that happens, all the other MAGAs will dismiss that person as a “Leftist soy-boy Never Trumper”, who is just trying to hurt the Saintly president Trump with his fake news and made-up “health emergency”. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9517 "2025-11-10T19:19:11Z")
> [@dougrb](#): > > Tax Reallocated to Universal Medical Practices \*Tariffs. That way, China is paying for it! ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9518 "2025-11-10T19:27:50Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Once again, we need Mister Submliminal! > > The felon: “I’m gonna give everyone $2000…” > Mr. Submliminal: “…which I scammed out of them to begin with!” Key and Peele had a recurring sketch about [Obama’s “Anger Translator”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkAK9QRe4ds), we need a new version, “Trump’s Greed Translator”. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9519 "2025-11-10T19:56:40Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > Key and Peele had a recurring sketch about [Obama’s “Anger Translator”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkAK9QRe4ds), we need a new version, “Trump’s Greed Translator”. That was great. Especially when Obama started to take over from the ‘Anger Translator’. SNL could do something like that for Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9520 "2025-11-10T20:39:51Z")
Thanks so much for posting that it was like a breath of fresh air to see a real president again. God I miss him. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9521 "2025-11-10T21:01:45Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > back to those pre-Obamacare plans, which cost you six cents a day, but don’t actually cover anything. As well as more comprehensive plans, which insurance companies could refuse to sell to you if you have a pre-existing condition, or are considered to be at high risk for future medical expenses. That was one of the important things about the ACA: it prevents insurers from denying coverage for such people. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=472) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=474)