# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9522 "2025-11-10T22:17:50Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Pardoning people who get caught doing your dirty work, will make it easier to recruit others to do your dirty work in the future.

Glenn Kirschner agrees with you (2 minutes)

[https://youtu.be/DwQUxLD\_\_To?t=300](https://youtu.be/DwQUxLD__To?t=300)

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
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Sorry, wrong thread.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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Fucking magnets, how do they work?

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m5cjppgk2l2m)**
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> Trump: "Nobody knows what magnets are."

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
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Trump does know a lot about Dark Matter as it fills much of his big brain.

Trump: “Nobody knows what magnets are.”

Are you certain he said _exactly that, in that order_?

So he’s likely to sue BBC for $1 Billion. And BBC is not making a good case for themselves so perhaps shutting up would be good. This show was on so long ago I can’t find it anymore.

> **[BBC chair Samir Shah apologises for Panorama Trump edit](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gw001kw97o)**
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> The BBC's director general and head of news both resigned on Sunday after criticism of the programme.

**Donald Trump has threatened legal action against the BBC, following criticism over how a speech the US president made was edited and used in a Panorama documentary.**

His legal team has given the BBC a deadline of 14 November to make a “full and fair retraction” of the documentary - or face being sued for $1bn (£760m).

Okay. let’s just play his entire speech that day. Only a little bit of insurrection.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> Trump: “Nobody knows what magnets are.”
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> Are you certain he said _exactly that, in that order_?

And he just said it AGAIN!

> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m5cuc4bcnp2d)**
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> Trump: "Nobody knows what a magnet is"

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
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LOL! So long as BBC gets the “are” and “is” in the correct order they should be safe from retractions and lawsuits.

I’ve got David Attenborough’s “Kingdom” on. He probably could give a page or two speech on the Grand Unified Theory. Hopefully Trump keeps up his “Science Guy” speech.

ETA: Okay, caught up with some of his blathering on magnets. China’s gonna his us with rare earth.

And people have theories about the hydraulics, so that is better than magnets.

Also, a 158% tariff is not the same as 100% on top of a 58% tariff.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9528 "2025-11-11T01:39:52Z")

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[I like to think he’s working on the quantum physics of magnetism.](https://modern-physics.org/quantum-magnetism/)

> Despite the progress, challenges remain in fully understanding and harnessing quantum magnetic phenomena.

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Drat. Too late to edit.  
It actually is the same. But to explain 158% tariff as 100% on top of 58% confused me.  
And whatever China is or is not hitting us with I cannot figure out.

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One time I want a reporter to say

“Just what in the fuck are you talking about?”

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
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> [@dougrb](#):
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> quantum magnetic phenomena

If he can do that and Quantum Gravity he’s well on his way to the Theory of Everything! Guaranteed Nobel.

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Dagnabit! Another too-late-to-edit

A 158% is 100% more tarrif than 58%, yet is not the same as 58% tariff + 100% tariff.

For $100, a simple 158% = $258  
yet stacking them = $100 + $100 = $200, × 58% added to **ΦB** , the flux density = $316

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We seem to be reaching the “just ignore what the crazy old man says” stage of this presidency.

[https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/trumps-50-year-mortgage-plan-is-getting-panned-allies-blame-this-man-00645654](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/trumps-50-year-mortgage-plan-is-getting-panned-allies-blame-this-man-00645654)

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> We seem to be reaching the “just ignore what the crazy old man says” stage of this presidency.

Isn’t that his voters’ starting point: just ignore his crazy ramblings?

[The nodfather and his crew didn’t even make it two weeks before breaking the two grand promise.](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/know-trumps-promise-2-000-193000257.html)

> [@](#):
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> President Donald Trump over the weekend [vowed](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-hell-issue-2000-tariff-dividend-except-high/story?id=127356839) to provide each American a $2,000 dividend to be distributed from what he said was [tariff](https://abcnews.go.com/Business/trumps-tariffs-achieved-experts-weigh/story?id=123859218) revenue.
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> "A dividend of at least $2000 a person (not including high income people!) will be paid to everyone,” the president wrote on social media Sunday, in part.
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> Within hours, however, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent cast doubt on the plan, saying the payout could merely refer to tax savings enshrined by Trump’s signature domestic spending measure.

[I guess the nodfather didn’t stop one war he claimed.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-peace-deal-blown-landmine-154133818.html)

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> A [conflict that Donald Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/opinion-just-glad-trump-79-160023136.html) has [bragged about solving](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-ambushed-fact-checked-face-120240251.html) has exploded back into crisis after a soldier was severely wounded by a landmine.
> 
> Thailand has suspended the peace accord with Cambodia, signed two weeks ago, that [Trump](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/opinion-time-trump-79-companion-174141173.html) claims he helped negotiate.
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> The accord was signed between the two countries at a regional summit on Oct. 26, which Trump attended. Thailand now says it will cease taking steps to implement it following the violence.

[The nodfather is _not_ happy with air traffic controllers he’s causing to suffer.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-melts-down-unpaid-gov-172549849.html)

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> President Donald Trump has unleashed a blistering all-caps tirade, lashing out at federal air traffic controllers for taking time off work during the government shutdown.
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> The 79-year-old president accused some of the workers of being disloyal “complainers” while promising hefty cash bonuses for those he deemed “GREAT PATRIOTS.”
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> “All Air Traffic Controllers must get back to work, NOW!!!” Trump wrote on Monday morning as the Senate approved a short-term funding measure that will keep the government operating through January 30. “Anyone who doesn’t will be substantially ‘docked.’”
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> The shutdown had forced thousands of federal employees—including FAA staff—to go without pay. But Trump used his post not to empathize with workers missing paychecks before the holidays, instead singling out those who stayed on the job as heroes.
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> “For those Air Traffic Controllers who were GREAT PATRIOTS, and didn’t take ANY TIME OFF for the ‘Democrat Shutdown Hoax,’ I will be recommending a BONUS of $10,000 per person,” Trump wrote.
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> He followed that up with a threat for others: “For those that did nothing but complain, and took time off… I am NOT HAPPY WITH YOU.”

[Why does it take a judge to force the federal government to feed children?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/federal-judge-says-states-dont-002429842.html)

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> States that dispersed full benefits to SNAP recipients over the weekend don’t have to try to get the money back, a federal judge ordered Nov. 10.
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> A flurry of court rulings in the last several days have led to confusion and frustration for the tens of millions of Americans waiting on final word on when they will receive the federal food aid they rely on.
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> U.S. Judge Indira Talwani of Massachusetts blocked a Saturday, Nov. 8 order from the USDA that said states needed to claw back any November benefits distributed before a [Supreme Court](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/supreme-court/) ruling the previous evening.
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> “What you have right now is a confusion of the agency’s own making,” Talwani said in court.

Oh, that last sentence answers my question.

[The nodfather’s wearing more makeup than the stars of _Death Becomes Her_ did in the funeral scene.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/trump-79-slathers-hand-makeup-122344913.html)

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> Donald Trump’s appearance at an NFL game drew attention [for all the wrong reasons](https://sports.yahoo.com/article/trump-79-awkwardly-tries-commentate-005652086.html)—among them, a conspicuous layer of foundation slathered across his right hand.
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> [The 79-year-old president](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/newsom-rubs-salts-wound-trump-025215604.html) was at Northwest Stadium in Maryland for the Washington Commanders’ 22-44 loss to the Detroit Lions, making him the first sitting president in nearly 50 years to attend a regular-season game.
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> Before kickoff, [Trump posed](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-booed-nfl-game-demanding-233201525.html) with Commanders owner Josh Harris, who gifted him a framed jersey bearing the president’s name and the number 47—a nod to his second stint in office.
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> But it wasn’t the jersey that set social media buzzing. In a photo shared by Trump’s communications adviser, Margo Martin, his right hand appeared caked with makeup, the orange-tinted foundation clearly visible under the stadium lights.

Hell, he looks like he should be _in_ the funeral scene.

[The very guy who wanders aimlessly on stage and even stares blankly at a wall when a medical emergency happens right next to him says someone has lost their way.](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-responds-criticism-marjorie-taylor-224119299.html) (The **bolding** is mine.)

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> President [Donald Trump](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump) on Monday said that MAGA-aligned Rep. [Marjorie Taylor Greene](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/marjorie-taylor-greene-increasingly-bucking-party-trump-rcna236288), R-Ga., had “lost her way” with [her criticism](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/marjorie-taylor-greene-gop-obamacare-premium-hikes-rcna236068) of the administration’s focus on foreign policy.
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> **“I don’t know what happened to Marjorie. She’s a nice woman, but I don’t know what happened. She’s lost her way, I think,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office.**
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> “But I have to view the presidency as a worldwide situation, not locally. I mean, we could have a world that’s on fire, where wars come to our shores very easily, if you had a bad president,” he added.
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> Asked about Trump’s comments, Greene said in a statement: “I haven’t lost my way. I’m 100% America first and only!”
> 
> Greene chastised the White House in a social media post Monday over the bilateral meeting with Syrian President [Ahmad al-Sharaa](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/syria-president-al-sharaa-meets-trump-white-house-jihadist-rcna241774), a former jihadist, that was expected to center on a U.S.-led coalition to defeat the Islamic State militant group, [two officials previously told NBC News](https://www.nbcnews.com/world/middle-east/syria-president-al-sharaa-meets-trump-white-house-jihadist-rcna241774).

[And what better way to prove you care about the country than asking the Supreme Court to…check my notes…overturn the defamation case?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-asks-supreme-court-overturn-222541527.html)

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> President Donald Trump on Monday asked the US Supreme Court to review the $5 million civil case that found he sexually abused and defamed magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll.
> 
> Last year, a federal appeals court affirmed the jury’s [verdict and $5 million judgment](https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/e-jean-carroll-trump-lawsuit-battery-defamation-verdict?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) against Trump, ruling the trial judge did not make errors that would warrant a new trial. In June, Trump [lost an effort](https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F2025%2F06%2F13%2Fpolitics%2Fappeals-court-e-jean-carroll&data=05%7C02%7CDan.Berman%40cnn.com%7Cc35a8265b6914ea51d6408de209fd3ff%7C0eb48825e8714459bc72d0ecd68f1f39%7C0%7C0%7C638984067974253728%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ewCRfF6aFqcHrJ4c0dNJGB2rJTeqXyNxGRB7uVyoMio%3D&reserved=0) to have the appeal reviewed by the full bench of judges.
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> Trump has claimed Judge Lewis Kaplan, who oversaw the civil trial, made numerous errors by allowing the jury to hear testimony from two women who alleged Trump sexually assaulted them years ago.

Feel free to read the rest of the article. It’s chock full of his bullshit.

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> Dagnabit! Another too-late-to-edit

_si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses_

_Ad Valorem_ tariffs are based on the value of the imported goods, specifically for the US on the CIF (Cost/Insurance/Freight) value of the goods in USD. For the US I would expect that usually all the cost components are denominated in USD.

(There are other methodologies. e.g. for an Australian business importing product from Japan the goods might be priced in Yen, insurance in AUD and freight in USD. Any duty payable is assessed on the FOB value of the goods in AUD)

You don’t pay a further tariff on already tariffed values ie you don’t “stack” them..

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Maybe I’ve been reading it–and computing it–wrong, then. I’ve been reading that as if something had a 150% tariff, then that product was subject to a 150% tariff on the date that was in effect. Then, if the tariff increased by 38%, then that product, but a different item, now had a 188% tariff in effect.

Am I doing that wrong?

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“Am I doing that wrong?”

Not as I read your post.

A product, from a specified country is subject to a specified tariff say 150%.  
If the rate changes say increasing by 38% that comes into effect at a specific date.  
The tariffs apply to all goods that enter the U.S. or are withdrawn from warehouses for consumption on or after that date.  
So any shipment arriving before that date pays 150% on the CIF value. Any shipment arriving after will pay 188%.

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The way trump put it was, they would go from 58% to 158%, and he clearly said that was 58% tariff + 100% tariff. It’s basically him saying tariffs are “stacked” as $100 in goods, with 58% applied first is $158, and “stack” in the 100% tariff comes out to $316. A 158% tariff comes to $258. It’s my application of his math. I’m not doing any tarrifing.

It was like he was saying $1,100 is $1000 + $100.

Besides, now I’m reading it’s a straight-up 200% and I don’t know if he said, for $100 that’s a 100% tariff, and that sum is then tarriffed again 100% to $400. It’s possible someone corrected him, yet he still thinks Obama is getting royalties for “Obamacare”

Jon Stewart covered that and the Dems caving on the shutdown. I guess all this tariff talk was this evening.

And the Chinese have banned (at least) all foreign AI chips. Maybe they’ve reverse engineered NVIDIA’s stuff or can even better apply what they did with DeepSeek.

At least five times in what I saw he says he has a good relationship with Xi and the USA will get what it wants. Then he goes to “or else tariffs” and that China “forced” magnets on the world over the past 20 years. He mixes in “rare earth” a lot and of course for 45 years every PC has had some of those (not just magnets) - that’s why computer equipment generally is separated at landfills - to recover some of them.

50 year mortgages. His stupidity and economic and technical ignorance is astounding more and more. Then he might speak somewhat coherently about Syria, then something stupid about Israel.

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> The way trump put it

Right, so it’s your interpretation of his interpretation, which is discredited by almost everybody who passes Economics 1.001

As to the rest of that post, that’s called “flooding the zone”.

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> [@penultima\_thule](#):
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> “flooding the zone”

Sorry, I probably tend to do that too much. If I’ll try to keep my posts more concise and certainly avoid trump-tech-talk and economy in my posts.

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**Post date:** [November 11, 2025, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9541 "2025-11-11T06:32:26Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> We seem to be reaching the “just ignore what the crazy old man says” stage of this presidency.
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> [https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/trumps-50-year-mortgage-plan-is-getting-panned-allies-blame-this-man-00645654](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/trumps-50-year-mortgage-plan-is-getting-panned-allies-blame-this-man-00645654)

Bill Pulte is a con man.  
(His reputation, whatever that is, has been used to legitimize Alex Zarac aka PPseeds of Bed Bath & Beyond meme stock infamy.)

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