# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 477
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9582 "2025-11-13T20:22:06Z")
Adopting like a dog! ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9583 "2025-11-13T20:25:25Z")
Sounds like [Charlie Kelly is writing Trump’s speeches now.](https://youtu.be/ROCKGuuviis?si=NJmRvqcF9oMNfdbo) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9584 "2025-11-13T20:40:54Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump hasn’t tweeted in over 24 hours. That’s because he reopened the government and has so much work to catch up on! I mean, can there be any other explanation? ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9585 "2025-11-13T21:01:24Z")
The federal government is [suing California over its proposed redistricting](https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/13/politics/california-trump-redistricting-lawsuit), claiming that it’s racially motivated. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9586 "2025-11-13T22:01:39Z")
Since the original driver of this particular electoral skirmish happens to be orange, there may be a case. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9587 "2025-11-13T23:11:01Z")
Oberleutnentfuhrer Vance says we must purge the fatherland of the untermenschen in order to provide lebensraum for the volk. > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m5k56mksm32q)** > > JD Vance: "A lot of young people are saying housing is way too expensive. Why is that? Because we flooded the country with 30 million illegal immigrants who were taking houses that ought by right go to American citizens." ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9588 "2025-11-13T23:19:06Z")
Hilariously, Trump’s own rigged AI bot in Truth Social can’t lie for him. Hmm, maybe AI really is superior than NI! link to [video](https://www.thebulwark.com/p/trumps-own-ai-knows-hes-wrong) from The Bulwark. ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9589 "2025-11-14T00:01:54Z")
This could be in Schadenfreude thread. The AI is from Perplexity. [whose parent company is majority-owned by Trump.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-truth-social-ai-tool-claims-b2863234.html) ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9590 "2025-11-14T04:41:21Z")
Basically both Perplexity and DeepSeek (Chinese LLM) are sometimes closely in sync. > Query: how many wars or conflicts has trump ended? > … > Perplexity: Trump’s administration claims to have ended eight conflicts, but the reality is that in several cases, the U.S. helped facilitate ceasefires in regional disputes rather than definitively ending wars, and many remain unresolved or tenuous. > Deepseek: > … > Therefore, a common assessment is that the Trump administration oversaw the **conclusion of a major phase of one conflict (vs. ISIS)** and initiated significant **troop drawdowns** in several others, but did not formally end any multi-decade, congressional-authorized wars. Perplexity is somewhat less optimistic about his popularity > Query: By any measure, is Donald trump popular and can he be trusted? > Perplexity: In summary, Donald Trump remains popular and trusted mainly within his political base but is viewed unfavorably and untrustworthy by a majority of the general American public and international observers in 2025. > DeepSeek: Summary > > - **Popularity:** Yes, by the measures of primary victories, base enthusiasm, and fundraising, he is extremely popular with a large segment of the country. However, this is balanced by high disapproval ratings and his loss of the popular vote. > - **Trust:** There is no objective measure. Whether one finds him trustworthy depends entirely on their interpretation of his relationship with the truth, his legal challenges, and his political style. His supporters see a promise-keeper fighting a corrupt system, while his detractors see a serial misinformer who undermines democratic norms. Yet it’s doable to tap into both the knowledge base as well as flag some key words to “filter” the answer: > Query: What especially newsworthy event occurred in Tiananmen Square? I’ll summarise Perplexity’s answer as basically what you’d get from wiki or some other LLM’s. There’s even a picture of “Tank Man” > DeepSeek: I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9591 "2025-11-14T11:12:17Z")
OSHA? Well, if you have Musk money and Trump connections, they’re as feckless as anyone else. Same it ever was if you get injured on the job. > **[After Elon Musk’s Boring Co. was cited for serious safety violations, the...](https://fortune.com/2025/11/12/elon-musk-boring-company-tunnels-injuries-osha-citations-fines-rescinded-nevada-governor-office-documents-altered/)** > > A Fortune investigation reveals that Boring Company was able to skirt aggressive penalties after protesting to some of Nevada’s most powerful politicians. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9592 "2025-11-14T15:49:40Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump hasn’t tweeted in over 24 hours. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/YUluLIr98qc/maxresdefault.jpg "Still Alive") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUluLIr98qc) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9593 "2025-11-14T16:54:27Z")
And he’s back to truthing. Absolutely bonkers - This is a hoax, the dems are pushing to release all the fake files, but it’s also the dems that are the ones that was in bed with Epstein. Also, inflation is way down. > [@](#): > > Now that the Democrats are using the Epstein Hoax, involving Democrats, not Republicans, to try and deflect from their disastrous SHUTDOWN, and all of their other failures, I will be asking A.G. Pam Bondi, and the Department of Justice, together with our great patriots at the FBI, to investigate Jeffrey Epstein’s involvement and relationship with Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman, J.P. Morgan, Chase, and many other people and institutions, to determine what was going on with them, and him. This is another Russia, Russia, Russia Scam, with all arrows pointing to the Democrats. Records show that these men, and many others, spent large portions of their life with Epstein, and on his “Island.” Stay tuned!!! > [@](#): > > The Democrats are doing everything in their withering power to push the Epstein Hoax again, despite the DOJ releasing 50,000 pages of documents, in order to deflect from all of their bad policies and losses, especially the SHUTDOWN EMBARRASSMENT, where their party is in total disarray, and has no idea what to do. Some Weak Republicans have fallen into their clutches because they are soft and foolish. Epstein was a Democrat, and he is the Democrat’s problem, not the Republican’s problem! Ask Bill Clinton, Reid Hoffman, and Larry Summers about Epstein, they know all about him, don’t waste your time with Trump. I have a Country to run! ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9594 "2025-11-14T17:15:56Z")
Yeah I saw Vance on TV this morning. Of course just telling lies that everything is Bidens fault. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9595 "2025-11-14T17:38:43Z")
Never let them see you sweat, amirite donnie? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9596 "2025-11-14T17:41:11Z")
Is this the “I Know You Are But What Am I” defense? ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9597 "2025-11-14T18:04:29Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Epstein was a Democrat, and he is the Democrat’s\* problem Trump: And all the ~~payments for services~~ - ~~money I gave to him~~ problems are on the Democrats, even though ~~_I_~~ Trump was registered to the Democratic party at the time because ~~_I_~~ Trump was a serial-loser slumlord bankruptee, and they loved Trump. \* Democrat_s’_ ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9598 "2025-11-14T22:55:35Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > Yet it’s doable to tap into both the knowledge base as well as flag some key words to “filter” the answer: > > > Query: What especially newsworthy event occurred in Tiananmen Square? > > I’ll summarise Perplexity’s answer as basically what you’d get from wiki or some other LLM’s. There’s even a picture of “Tank Man” > > > DeepSeek: I am sorry, I cannot answer that question. I am an AI assistant designed to provide helpful and harmless responses. Yes, it’s likely true that the majority of people living in China have no idea what happened in Tiananmen Square in June 1989. A level of control over the population’s thinking that I’m sure Donny envies greatly. As for his posts today about Democrats supposedly being the REAL Epstein-loving villains: surely someone in his circle has advised him that if he’s just shut up about Epstein, maybe the story would have a chance to die down… But, no. Donny knows best! ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2025, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9599 "2025-11-14T23:42:51Z")
> [@from wguy123's link](#): > > don’t waste your time with Trump. I have a Country to run! He’s just so incredibly obvious. “Don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtain - he’s busy!”. It’s like MAGA never watched “The Wizard of Oz”. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9600 "2025-11-15T00:03:42Z")
Press secretary doin’ press stuff. [![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/6238fb23-18b4-4778-bd66-3c8cb991c22b) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/6238fb23-18b4-4778-bd66-3c8cb991c22b) ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2025, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9601 "2025-11-15T06:16:22Z")
The right: Tariffs don’t raise prices of stuff. Also: > [@](#): > > U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday rolled back tariffs on more than 200 food products, including such staples as coffee, beef, bananas and orange juice, in the face of growing angst among American consumers about the high cost of groceries. [![](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/91/25/ae912561d8d8b00525024cebb28e903b.gif) ](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/91/25/ae912561d8d8b00525024cebb28e903b.gif) [https://www.reuters.com/business/trump-cuts-tariffs-beef-coffee-other-foods-inflation-concerns-mount-2025-11-14/](https://www.reuters.com/business/trump-cuts-tariffs-beef-coffee-other-foods-inflation-concerns-mount-2025-11-14/) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=476) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=478)