# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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Trump posted this tonight at Truth Social. Apparently, it’s a reference to the movie **Eyes Wide Shut** , which I haven’t seen. Seems strange to post something like this when sex parties you may have attended are in the news. I wonder who told him this was a good idea?

[![](https://unstuckpolitics.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/9/d98da97568e550899e6149fbd2c3680111362705.jpeg) ](https://unstuckpolitics.com/uploads/default/original/3X/d/9/d98da97568e550899e6149fbd2c3680111362705.jpeg)

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The orange cheese has slipped fully off the cracker.

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Is that what that is? Are we sure? Not that I have a better explanation, but I don’t recall anyone looking quite like that in EWS.

Also, was that sign made by the same artist that created this…?

[![](https://static.independent.co.uk/2025/11/05/17/36/GettyImages-2244638363.jpeg) ](https://static.independent.co.uk/2025/11/05/17/36/GettyImages-2244638363.jpeg)

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> Is that what that is? Are we sure?

I can’t say since I haven’t seen the movie. I saw this on another site that made the connection. I looked up images from the movie so maybe it’s more “in the style of” EWS? Still weird, though, not even counting the 2028 sign.

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Still weird, though, not even counting the 2028 sign.

Ah, maybe there is an explanation. This afternoon Trump was blaring music from “The Phantom of the Opera” so loud it could be heard outside of the White House. Maybe he thought the image was from that. What a weirdo.

> <https://x.com/jake__traylor/status/1989398592839467177?s=20>

[Trump blares ‘Phantom of the Opera’ at White House with empty Friday schedule](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-AA1QsHF1)

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> Also, was that sign made by the same artist that created this…?

I have seen a compelling theory posted online this evening that the White House now has these labels all over the place because otherwise Trump wouldn’t know where the fuck he is.

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[Epstein emails contradict the felon-in-chief.](https://www.aol.com/articles/epsteins-email-says-bill-clinton-004133312.html)

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> Former President [Bill Clinton](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/email-release-trump-calls-doj-161524601.html) has long been one of the high-profile names fueling curiosity about [Jeffrey Epstein](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/am-one-able-him-down-213053522.html)’s criminal case files.
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> “The American people want to know what went on at Epstein island … we know that Bill Clinton went there many times,” House Oversight Committee Chairman James Comer, R-Kentucky, told [Newsmax in August](https://www.newsmax.com/politics/james-comer-hillary-clinton-bill-clinton/2025/08/10/id/1221961/). Epstein owned a small private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands, where sex trafficking of young girls allegedly occurred. “We just want to ask him what he saw when he was there and who all was involved.”
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> President [Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/) also implied that Clinton went to the island in a [Nov. 14 Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115548785919046772) post, saying Larry Summers, Reid Hoffman, J.P. Morgan, Chase and Clinton, “spent large portions of their life with Epstein, and on his ‘Island.’” He also said he would ask the Department of Justice to [investigate the Democrats](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/email-release-trump-calls-doj-161524601.html) linked to the late financier and sex offender.
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> But [Epstein said in an email,](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/am-one-able-him-down-213053522.html) part of thousands of documents released by the Committee on Nov. 12, that Clinton never went to the island.
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> “Clinton was NEVER EVER there, never,” Epstein wrote.

[The felon is back to touting his obviously bad health condition, lying about it of course.](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-says-mri-part-very-012044029.html)

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> WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump said on Friday he received a magnetic resonance imaging (MRI)​ exam as part of his recent physical, calling ‌the scan “very standard.”

I’ve had plenty of physicals. Not a one of them included an MRI. I’m going to have to rate this lie as _one orange flame pants on fire_.

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> Trump told reporters he got the MRI “because it’‌s part of my physical. Getting an MRI is very standard. What, you think I shouldn’t have it? Other people get it … I had an MRI. ⁠The doctor said it ‌was the best result he has ever seen as a doctor.”

I doubt the doctor said any such thing. Yes, other people get it, but not as part of a standard physical. And “best result”? What is that nonsense? An MRI is done for a specific purpose, looking for something. There is no “best result”; it’s either finding what the doctors suspect or it’s not finding it.

So, this lie is _two orange flame pants on fire_.

And what could they have expected anyway?

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> Medical experts note that MRIs are not typically part of a routine ‍physical. Doctors ⁠usually prescribe them to get detailed images of the spine, heart and vascular system, brain, knees, or ⁠other parts of the body.

Got it. They were searching for a brain.

[Christian Sharia fanboy Vance admires the felon’s bigotry to…(checks notes)…a head of state.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/jd-vance-giggles-over-trumps-194123855.html)

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> Vice President JD Vance was asked by Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. who he thought was the biggest clown — or more specifically, the funniest member — of President Donald Trump’s cabinet during a live “Make America Healthy Again” on Wednesday.
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> Vance responded by saying he felt Secretary of State Marco Rubio was the “funniest outside of the president,” before moving on to give an example of Trump’s “amazing comedic timing.”
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> Vance recalled a shockingly bigoted question Trump asked Al-Qaeda jihadist-turned-Syrian President [Ahmad al-Sharaa](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ap-ml-syria-insurgent-leader-abu-mohammed-al-golani_n_6755b010e4b06b50ac930401) after [spritzing him Trump-branded cologne](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-meeting-syria-president_n_691583e6e4b0295c356a90ca) during a meeting in the Oval Office Monday.
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> In a [clip that’s gone viral on social media](https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1988621458948366836), Trump can be seen asking al-Sharaa “how many wives” he has. When al-Sharaa responded by saying, “One,” Trump quipped: “With you guys, I never know.”

&

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> “And it’s just like, ‘Oh, what an amazing question,’” Vance said of Trump’s offensive question. “Amazing comedic timing! There are layers to it, there’s like a meta-humor to it.”

I’m now wondering if the felon is going to–or even has actually done so–ask the congressional delegation from Utah how many wives they have. So sharp! So witty! So fucking ignorant.

[The revenge tour has managed to do something with a modicum of efficiency.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-administration-fire-usda-employee-222742451.html)

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> One federal employee [says she is being fired](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtHy10TuALg) after she gave an interview to MSNBC about her and her coworkers’ experiences during the government shutdown and how the shutdown would negatively impact SNAP benefits.
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> Department of Agriculture employee Ellen Mei first spoke with MSNBC on Oct. 2, at the start of the shutdown. At the time, host Chris Jansing clarified that her guest was speaking for herself and not “representing [her] employer.”
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> Mei, who works as a program specialist with SNAP benefits, told Jansing during an approximately four-minute long interview that she and her co-workers were feeling “anxious because we’re hearing about the risk potentials and office closures that are looming over USDA as this shutdown kind of drags on.”
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> She also said at the time that SNAP benefits would likely be issued for the month of October, but warned, “things might get a little dicey if this drags on into November.”
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> Mei now claims she is facing retaliation from the USDA for participating in the interview. She told MSNBC in a follow-up interview on Thursday, Nov. 13, that just one day after she gave her initial Oct. 2 interview, the agency told her they wanted to fire her for appearing on the network.
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> [_The Washington Post_](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/11/13/usda-worker-snap-benefits-interview/) obtained a copy of the correspondence between Mei and an official in the USDA human resources department, who reportedly informed her that she would be terminated 30 days after the shutdown ended. Mei was also accused of speaking about USDA programs and funding “without prior approval,” the outlet reported.

[Federal judge takes the felon and his flacks to task for violating the constitution in his war on education.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/judge-bars-trump-immediately-cutting-010630690.html)

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> The Trump administration cannot fine the University of California or summarily cut the school system’s federal funding over claims it allows antisemitism or other forms of discrimination, a federal judge ruled late Friday in a sharply worded decision.
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> U.S. District Judge Rita Lin in San Francisco issued a preliminary injunction barring the administration from cancelling funding to UC based on alleged discrimination without giving notice to affected faculty and conducting a hearing, among other requirements.
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> The administration over the summer demanded the [University of California, Los Angeles](https://apnews.com/article/trump-administration-ucla-ec848b4bee5c184f29dba9d7181904a1) pay $1.2 billion to restore frozen research funding and ensure eligibility for future funding after accusing the school of allowing antisemitism on campus. UCLA was the first public university to be targeted by the administration over allegations of civil rights violations.
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> It has also [frozen or paused federal funding](https://apnews.com/article/trump-settlement-ivy-league-harvard-columbia-brown-8441ce30057c684084994ae53c0a2b92) over similar claims against private colleges, including Columbia University.
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> In her ruling, Lin said labor unions and other groups representing UC faculty, students and employees had provided “overwhelming evidence” that the Trump administration was “engaged in a concerted campaign to purge ‘woke,’ ‘left,’ and ‘socialist’ viewpoints from our country’s leading universities."
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> “Agency officials, as well as the President and Vice President, have repeatedly and publicly announced a playbook of initiating civil rights investigations of preeminent universities to justify cutting off federal funding, with the goal of bringing universities to their knees and forcing them to change their ideological tune,” Lin wrote.
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> She added, “It is undisputed that this precise playbook is now being executed at the University of California.”
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> At UC, which is facing a series of civil rights probes, she found the administration had engaged in “coercive and retaliatory conduct in violation of the First Amendment and Tenth Amendment.”

I’m wondering what kind of racist nonsese the felon will blather in response.

[All SNAP recipients must reapply to get benefits.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/usda-head-says-everyone-snap-223750634.html)

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> Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins on Thursday said the Trump administration is planning to have all [Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/end-government-shutdown-won-t-110000022.html) (SNAP) beneficiaries reapply for the program due to alleged fraud.
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> The secretary said after receiving data on SNAP recipients from 29 red states that “186,000 deceased men and women and children in this country are receiving a check.”
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> “Can you imagine when we get our hands on the blue state data what we’re going to find?” she asked during a [Thursday appearance](https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/brooke-rollins-snap-usda/2025/11/13/id/1234502/) on Newsmax’s “Rob Schmitt Tonight.”
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> “It’s going to give us a platform and a trajectory to fundamentally rebuild this program, have everyone reapply for their benefit, make sure that everyone that’s taking a taxpayer-funded benefit through SNAP or food stamps, that they literally are vulnerable, and they can’t survive without it,” she added.

Did I read that correctly? The data is from, and I quote, “29 red states”. Maybe this tidbit should go in the schadenfreude thread.

[The guy who’s literally broken every commandment in the Decalogue is trying to quote the Bible.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-latest-righteous-rhetoric-100644267.html)

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> Donald Trump’s remarks on the importance of caring for the most vulnerable children drew major eye rolls and accusations of deep hypocrisy on Thursday.
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> The president, speaking at a White House event launching first lady Melania Trump’s “[Fostering the Future](https://apnews.com/article/melania-trump-white-house-foster-care-5301987e676786c793b2b9fba0eb4c2f)” initiative, which seeks to expand opportunities for youngsters in foster care, said:
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> “The Bible tells us that one of the measures of any society is how it cares for vulnerable children and orphans. So important, and it is so big in the Bible. So, as we make America great again, we’re going to protect American children in foster care and we’re going to ensure that they will never, ever be forgotten.”
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> Some people on social media suggested Trump was misquoting the Bible with his political spin on the long-standing idea of helping those most in need.
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> Many, though, highlighted how the president’s rhetoric was in stark contrast to his record, particularly his administration’s attempt to block Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program payments to low-income families during the recently ended government shutdown.
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> “You literally fought in court to strip families of food assistance,” California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) pointed out on X, formerly Twitter.

The cruelty is the point and the hypocrisy is the character trait.

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And “best result”? What is that nonsense?

“Your health is so undeniably terrible, the problems are easily observed, clear as day, in every single scan. We don’t even need to call the radiologist for an interpretation. I mean, look at it. A child could see it. Big flashing lights. Might as well be a cartoon character holding an arrow-shaped sign. Makes diagnosis so, so easy.” (doctors wipe tears from their eyes)

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> [@Monty](#):
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> > “And it’s just like, ‘Oh, what an amazing question,’” Vance said of Trump’s offensive question. “Amazing comedic timing! There are layers to it, there’s like a meta-humor to it.”

The ball! His groin! It works on so many levels!

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Man, what the hell is going on… I swear by the gods that I am currently reading Phantom Of The Opera for the first time.  
Damn.

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> Ah, maybe there is an explanation. This afternoon Trump was blaring music from “The Phantom of the Opera” so loud it could be heard outside of the White House. Maybe he thought the image was from that. What a weirdo.

“911, what’s your emergency?”

“My neighbor has been playing music at full volume for hours. I think he may also be suffering a dementia-related episode.”

“What’s the address?”

“1600 Pennsylvania Ave.”

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> The right: Tariffs don’t raise prices of stuff. Also:
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> > U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday rolled back tariffs on more than 200 food products, including such staples as coffee, beef, bananas and orange juice, in the face of growing angst among American consumers about the high cost of groceries.

Of course this “fix the problem YOU created” maneuver won’t help Donald’s poll numbers, because once prices go up, they don’t go down.

Owners of grocery-related companies will increase their profits (due to their costs going down while they charge the same elevated prices). But _they_ aren’t numerous enough to help Donald with his favorability ratings.

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Trump pardons Jan 6 insurrectionist for a second time:

> Trump’s new “full and unconditional” pardon, dated Nov. 14, explicitly references Wilson’s firearms case, which ended with him pleading guilty to two felony gun offenses. Wilson, who has identified himself as a member of the Oath Keepers and Gray Ghost Partisan Rangers militia, had also pleaded guilty for his conduct on Jan. 6, which included a charge of conspiring to impede or injure a federal officer.

[https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/15/trump-re-pardons-a-jan-6-defendant-to-erase-unrelated-gun-conviction-five-year-jail-term-00653425](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/15/trump-re-pardons-a-jan-6-defendant-to-erase-unrelated-gun-conviction-five-year-jail-term-00653425)

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If you like beer pong and the Bible, you’re in luck! It would make a great gift for the holidays as well!

[“For the pong patriots and those who want to be, this set of sturdy 45 and 47 team cups and Presidential themed balls will help keep your team winning just like America is under the leadership of President Trump,”](https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacheverson/2025/11/14/trump-beer-pong-lee-greenwood-presidential-seal-bible/)

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JD Vance steps up the stupid game. Housing edition.

[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/e878b200-ad99-4d3f-acb2-25a5e21c9cb4) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/v200/e878b200-ad99-4d3f-acb2-25a5e21c9cb4)

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Is it $4 billion or $5 billion or all the £billions ever that the insurrectionist felon is suing the BBC for?

Can the BBC reclaim lawyer fees when this bullshit lawsuit is cast out, with prejudice?

The BBC is calling him out for his bullshit on climate change. President Shit Bomber isn’t getting tuppence, and will owe the King a lot of money for wasting his and Starner, the once great Prosecutor’s, time.

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Last post for today.My pissed off level is exceeded. Steven Miller hatred edition.

> <https://x.com/Ike_Saul/status/1989336372017312114>

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9619 "2025-11-16T07:36:39Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Trump pardons Jan 6 insurrectionist for a second time:
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> > Trump’s new “full and unconditional” pardon, dated Nov. 14, explicitly references Wilson’s firearms case, which ended with him pleading guilty to two felony gun offenses. Wilson, who has identified himself as a member of the Oath Keepers and Gray Ghost Partisan Rangers militia, had also pleaded guilty for his conduct on Jan. 6, which included a charge of conspiring to impede or injure a federal officer.

And this is what the magaflatearthers call law and order and respect for law enforcement?

Seriously, at this point, if you want to flat out murder someone, you can just go down to Fifth Avenue yourself, shout you’re doing it for him, shoot until you’re out of ammunition, and the felon will pardon you before the charging document hits the judge’s bench. And if the people you hit are police officers in one of those “woke cities”, Fifth Avenue being in New York City, now on the felon’s naughty list, even better.

> [@smithsb](#):
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> JD Vance steps up the stupid game. Housing edition.

I’m wondering where all of these expensive houses undocumented migrants live in. Of course they’re going to be vacat soon, right, Just Dumb Vance? And because they’re going to be empty, and the population will have dropped what with your ~~genocide~~ deportation policy, the housing is going to be affordable, right?

> [@smithsb](#):
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> [https://x.com/Ike\_Saul/status/1989336372017312114](https://x.com/Ike_Saul/status/1989336372017312114)

It’s almost like the entire event was staged with ~~crisis~~ actors. That, of course, is how the magaflatearters, especially their idol, would say it happened if this were done by a Democrat in office.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9620 "2025-11-16T08:01:57Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> > U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday rolled back tariffs on more than 200 food products, including such staples as coffee, beef, bananas and orange juice, in the face of growing angst among American consumers about the high cost of groceries.

And the funniest part of this? It won’t make prices come down.

We saw it during the pandemic. There were major disruptions to transportation systems, which caused costs to spike. Businesses raised prices to compensate for that, but then never lowered them again once the disruptions went away. They saw that people were still willing to buy at the higher prices, and figured that was what they should be charging all the time.

Now it’s happened again - tariffs haven’t caused a drastic reduction in consumption, so they know that enough people are still willing to pay the current prices. When the tariffs go away, that money will just go into the businesses’ pockets instead of Trump’s pocket.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2025, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9621 "2025-11-16T09:27:17Z")

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It’s the economic theory of wheat and bread. Wheat goes up, bread goes up. Wheat comes down, bread stays up.

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