# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9722 "2025-11-20T22:01:07Z")

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When the fuck are the others in charge gonna say enough is enough of this toddler? SCOTUS, Congress, they’re all satisfied with behavior like this? Sen Mark Kelly is one of the speakers in the videos. He’s a veteran, an astronaut for fucks sake, but those words? Let’s kill him. Should be loony bin or nothing for this orange ass.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9723 "2025-11-20T22:08:46Z")

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Trump called his own VP a pussy, and Republicans sat on their hands.  
They’re simply pathetic, and do yourself a favor, don’t expect that Republicans will ever stand up to Trump in any meaningful way. It ain’t happening.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9724 "2025-11-20T22:09:50Z")

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They NEED to explain why they think it’s better to do nothing.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9725 "2025-11-20T22:12:43Z")

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The Trump administration is seeking custody of Tina Peters, the former GOP Colorado election clerk who was sentenced to nine years in prison on state charges for her role in a 2021 voting system data breach, in a failed attempt to find voter fraud.

There is no basis for the Bureau of Prisons to request a transfer of her custody. Any scheme to prevent her from being held accountable under Colorado law is outrageous.

[https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/trump-administration-seeks-custody-of-convicted-election-denier-tina-peters/](https://www.democracydocket.com/news-alerts/trump-administration-seeks-custody-of-convicted-election-denier-tina-peters/)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
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> [@Locrian](#):
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> They NEED to explain why they think it’s better to do nothing.

The fact that the Republican base keeps nominating and electing crazy assholes is all the explanation that’s required.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9727 "2025-11-20T22:44:28Z")

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Trump’s former VP, quite Republican, (How Republican was he? He was so Republican that as Governor of Indiana he passed a law saying that it was perfectly legal to discriminate against gay people!) was _abandoned_ after Trump turned against him. His own guy.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9728 "2025-11-20T22:51:14Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Now he’s demanding that members of Congress be executed for making a PSA reminding servicemembers of their duty to refuse illegal orders.

Wonkette puts it well:

> **[Trump Just Saying People Who Love Constitution More Than They Love Führer...](https://www.wonkette.com/p/trump-just-saying-people-who-love)**
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> Wait, who's doing the violent threats?

Complete headline:

> # Trump Just Saying People Who Love Constitution More Than They Love Führer Should Be Killed

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9729 "2025-11-20T22:52:19Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> They NEED to explain why they think it’s better to do nothing.

The American people (or maybe just us) need to have them explain that. What _they_ need is to not get primaried in less than one year from now. Tick tick!

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9730 "2025-11-20T23:01:33Z")

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Aha! So Trump is on the Left, because the Left are the ones who make all these calls for political violence!

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9731 "2025-11-20T23:04:03Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Wonkette puts it well:

Thanks for that. It was well worth the read. Basically, Wonkette lets fly with both barrels, reloads, and lets fly again. Great item!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9732 "2025-11-20T23:16:02Z")

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The Border Patrol is ending its deployment in Charlotte after discovering that North Carolinians hate them.

> **[Border Patrol has left Charlotte and plans to mobilize in New Orleans next](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/border-patrol-preparing-leave-charlotte-plan-mobilize-new-orleans-rcna244981)**
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> Border Patrol agents arrested more than 250 people in Charlotte this week and may begin operations in New Orleans after Thanksgiving.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9733 "2025-11-20T23:47:20Z")

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Wonkette is a fun site.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The Border Patrol is ending its deployment in Charlotte after discovering that North Carolinians hate them.

Boo-fucking-hoo.

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**Author:** ![Frazzled](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frazzled/32/3368_2.png) [@Frazzled](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frazzled)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2025, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9734 "2025-11-20T23:57:38Z")

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This is just a small anecdotal point, but I have a few “friends” on Facebook that are die hard Trump supporters. I mostly unfollowed them because I can’t stand the rhetoric, but I will open their profiles directly when I want to feel some recreational outrage and just see how they spin whatever is in the news. For at least the past month now, all of them have been dead silent on Trump. These are people that parrot the Republican Party Line word for word and all I see is emptiness.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9735 "2025-11-21T00:52:54Z")

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> [@Frazzled](#):
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> These are people that parrot the Republican Party Line word for word and all I see is emptiness.

Very metaphorically apt!

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9736 "2025-11-21T02:49:17Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Wait, so you haven’t actually listened to more than a few seconds or perhaps as much of a minute of any of his speeches but you assert he’s a master at conveying emotional tone? Based on what?

I think you are probably too intelligent to be able to listen to him without considering what he is actually saying. Once you do that of course it’s somewhere between coherent idiocy and incoherent gibberish.

But instead of relying on what _you_ (and I) make of him, listen to what his supporters think about what he says. They ain’t just cheering because they are told to, you know.

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9737 "2025-11-21T03:02:48Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Now he’s demanding that members of Congress be executed for making a PSA reminding servicemembers of their duty to refuse illegal orders.

It has to be a military coup, before he’s demoted / sent off those who might start one.

The Joint Chiefs of staff need to detain Hegseth. Inform Trump his orders no longer are applicable.

This is writing the “Book of American coup d’ tat” and when they need to detain and arrest Trump is up to them. SCOTUS and Congress are just about irrelevant. The Generals/Admirals who do not meet and agree to do this soon will not be Generals or Admirals anymore.

The impact on the dollar will be crushing. It has to be. This man cannot be President anymore.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9738 "2025-11-21T03:14:43Z")

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Meanwhile, we apparently “accidentally” invaded Mexico today.

> **['International incident': 'Terrifying standoff' as US troops mistakenly...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-troops-invade-mexico/)**
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> American troops "pulled up on a Mexican beach" and created a "terrifying standoff," according to a new report.According to at least one news report, "American troops pulled up on a Mexican beach in a dramatic escalation of tensions after Donald Trump...

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**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9739 "2025-11-21T03:17:40Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Meanwhile, we apparently “accidentally” invaded Mexico today.
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> ['International incident': 'Terrifying standoff' as US troops mistakenly invade Mexico](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-troops-invade-mexico/)

One of these mistakes is going to be catastrophic.

Unbelievable.

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> [@Ellecram](#):
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> One of these mistakes is going to be catastrophic.

Next time it’ll be a Mexican standoff on a terrifying beach.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2025, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/9741 "2025-11-21T04:05:24Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> But instead of relying on what _you_ (and I) make of him, listen to what his supporters think about what he says. They ain’t just cheering because they are told to, you know.

I mean, you do you. But it’s like trying to figure out what’s in the next room by knocking on the wall to attempt echolocation instead of going in and looking. If you think that’s good enough, whatever floats your boat.

My take is and has been it’s like church - it’s literally a cult. They know how to respond to the shout-y preacher guy up front. It’s rote.

They don’t get or need to get what he’s saying. Or even really care about his “tone”. The only thing that matters is he’s on their “team” and says bad word things about other “teams” (whether that’s Democrats, furriners, women, minorities, etc).

They can be balancing their checkbooks while he drones on. It doesn’t matter. They just need to be seen in their pews mouthing the appropriate words and (especially) making their tithes.

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