# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1101 "2025-01-26T19:43:05Z")
One man’s “obeying in advance” is another’s _reductio ad absurdum_, which by how widespread the Tuskegee Airmen/WASP story has spread is apparently not “making the autocrat’s job easier.” It’s broken through into the MAGAsphere judging from Fox"News" articles. Maybe it will tickle the consciences of less-crazy MAGAs who don’t hate minorities but have been propaganda’d into believing DEI means “always give the job to a minority or woman rather than a white man”. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1102 "2025-01-26T19:44:15Z")
> [@](#): > > # [Trump Threatens Denmark over Greenland in ‘Horrendous’ and ‘Dangerous’ Call with Danish PM](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/25/2299005/-Trump-Threatens-Denmark-over-Greenland-in-Horrendous-and-Dangerous-Call-with-Danish-PM) > > … > > according to the [_Financial Times_](https://www.ft.com/content/ace02a6f-3307-43f8-aac3-16b6646b60f6), [_Newsweek_](https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-mette-frederiksen-phone-call-greenland-2020637), and [other news outlets](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-frederiksen-denmark-greenland-call-b2686079.html), Greenland-obsessed Donald Trump had a call with Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen last week described by Danish and other European sources as “horrendous,” “aggressive and confrontational,” and “potentially very dangerous.” Predictably, the call included a threat of punitive tariffs against Denmark if it doesn’t hand Greenland over to the United States. > > Trump previously also suggested that he [might use military force](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-use-military-force-acquire-panama-canal-greenland-econo-rcna186610) to take Greenland from Denmark. > > “The [Americans’] intent was very clear,” said one source on the call, “They want [Greenland]. The Danes are now in crisis mode.” Said another source: “The Danes are utterly freaked out by this.” Even knowing what Trump has done in the past, I am flabbergasted. It’s as if he wants to prove to Putin that he’s as tough as he is. I checked other sources – despite my initial thoughts, this story is “for real”. > **[Trump Threatens Denmark over Greenland in 'Horrendous' and 'Dangerous' Call...](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/25/2299005/-Trump-Threatens-Denmark-over-Greenland-in-Horrendous-and-Dangerous-Call-with-Danish-PM?utm_campaign=trending)** > > by Mark C. Eades Denmark has long been a friend and NATO ally of the United States. Following the 9/11 attacks on the United States, when the NATO Article 5 pledge of mutual defense was invoked for the first and still only time in NATO’s history,... ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1103 "2025-01-26T19:51:06Z")
Colombia declined to accept its US-based deportees. In retaliation, Trump … was Trump: [**Trump heaps tariffs on Colombia after it refuses migration deportation flights**](https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombias-petro-will-not-allow-us-planes-return-migrants-2025-01-26/) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON/BOGOTA Jan 26 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday he would impose retaliatory measures on Colombia including tariffs, sanctions and travel bans after the South American country turned away two U.S. military aircraft with migrants being deported as part of Trump’s immigration crackdown. > > Trump said the action by Colombian President Gustavo Petro jeopardized U.S. national security and he has directed his administration to take retaliatory measures. > > They include imposing emergency 25% tariffs on all goods coming into the United States, which will go up to 50% in one week; a travel ban and visa revocations on Colombian government officials and its allies; fully imposing emergency Treasury, banking and financial sanctions and enhanced border inspections of Colombian nationals. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1104 "2025-01-26T19:55:24Z")
From the annals of “Careful What You Wish For …” [**Arab Americans for Trump chair blasts president’s ‘wild’ call to relocate Palestinians**](https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-americans-for-trump-chair-blasts-presidents-wild-call-to-relocate-palestinians/) > The chairman of a group that lobbied Arab and Muslim Americans to vote for Donald Trump in the recent election came out strongly on Sunday against the US president’s call for Jordan and Egypt to take in Palestinians from war-torn Gaza. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1105 "2025-01-26T19:59:24Z")
Just impeach him already. Trump shouldn’t last a single Scaramucci. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1106 "2025-01-26T20:00:22Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > They include imposing emergency 25% tariffs on all goods coming into the United States, which will go up to 50% in one week; Oh shit! That means the price of coffee is going to jump! Buy now before the increase! ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1107 "2025-01-26T20:02:56Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Oh shit! That means the price of coffee is going to jump! Buy now before the increase! Ditto for cocaine… ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1108 "2025-01-26T20:04:31Z")
Somehow, I _think_ those shipments are going to avoid the eye of the “External Revenue Service”. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1109 "2025-01-26T20:09:36Z")
I may have fallen for a lie which was posted originally over at Blue Sky. I can’t find the cite. I was just too hungry for some Good News I guess… ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1110 "2025-01-26T20:11:54Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > (and as the great nephew of a WASP who ferried a bunch of P-38s over to the Mediterranean theatre during WWII, I take personal exception to dubbing her service anything but heroic.) Not to mention, it’s very, very cool. “You did what grandma?!” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1111 "2025-01-26T20:27:49Z")
Why don’t we start a movement to pre-emptively surrender to Denmark. I would like to have universal healthcare. And full-blown socialism. And _hygge_. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1112 "2025-01-26T20:29:26Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Not to mention, it’s very, very cool. “You did what grandma?!” We should all be proud of what our parents, grand parents, great aunts and great uncles did in the war. My father was in Burma and while he wouldn’t talk about it much, that calm level headed man nearly snapped when he came home to a new recipe my mother was trying with curry and cumin. He literally threw the entire pot out into the trash and would not talk about it. My uncle woke up screaming about every other day until the day he died because he served in Bastogne. Imagine your very best friends being ground up alive in a meat grinder… begging for help… some calling for their Moms. My BIL served on a destroyer off of Vietnam and heard pings and zings and saw bits of metal flying through the hull into the engine room regularly. Aluminum hulls are not as shore battery resistant as you think. Look, we should all have pride and take pride for our family’s service. Maybe some will yank that old Garand they inherited down from the attic, have it cleaned, buy a box of ammo at a range, and rediscover what their ancestors lived through. Please note, however, that no Trump has ever served or fought for the freedom of The United States. Ever. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1113 "2025-01-26T20:42:07Z")
Sorry for the continued hijack… My uncle was at the liberation of Buchenwald. Artistic guy. Worked for Disney. Cartoonist. He got home and drank himself to death. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1114 "2025-01-26T20:44:19Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Ditto for cocaine Yeah, I want to see The Donald collect the tarrif on that one! ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1115 "2025-01-26T20:49:39Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Why don’t we start a movement to pre-emptively surrender to Denmark. I would like to have universal healthcare. And full-blown socialism. And _hygge_. As a member of NATO, ICBMs could be ( and probably are ) installed on Greenland. Notifying Rump that their primary targets have been modified so as to provide central and southern Florida with free glass might just shove “F.O.” up Rump’s brains. > [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Oh shit! That means the price of coffee is going to jump! Buy now before the increase! Why not have all of the coffee producing countries boycott the US? “Until such time as DJT is either removed from power, jailed, or dead… no coffee beans will be shipped to The United States of America.” ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1116 "2025-01-26T21:04:00Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Yeah, I want to see The Donald collect the tarrif on that one! He would just take a cut; say, one brick out of five. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1117 "2025-01-26T21:10:30Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > As a member of NATO, ICBMs could be ( and probably are ) installed on Greenland. I cannot imagine why they would be. Yes, it’s closer to Russia. It’s also less secure for land based ICBMs, and SLBMs do the job they would. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1118 "2025-01-26T21:22:27Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > I cannot imagine why they would be. Yes, it’s closer to Russia. It’s also less secure for land based ICBMs, and SLBMs do the job they would. Also, Florida isn’t known for its glass… ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1119 "2025-01-26T21:22:42Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > As a member of NATO, ICBMs could be ( and probably are ) installed on Greenland. No ICBMs are installed in Greenland. There was a now-declassified Cold War-era program called [Project ICEWORM](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Iceworm) which studied the feasibility of basing mobile ballistic missiles under the northern Greenland ice sheet (the true nature of which was kept secret from Denmark) but it turned out to be non-feasible, and after the deployment of the LGM-30A/B ‘Minuteman I’ and later LGM-30F ‘Minuteman II’ system which had high launch availability, capable of launching into an incoming strike and surviving near-miss attacks, and could deliver hundreds of RVs to all areas of the Soviet Union, such basing was no longer needed or operationally viable. There is certainly no reason to base ICBMs in such a difficult to access location today given the reach of modern solid propellant ballistic missiles, the Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM) SLBM arm, and the standby capability of air- and sea-launched nuclear-armed cruise missiles. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2025, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1120 "2025-01-26T21:32:01Z")
We did “install” four nuclear weapons in Greenland previously. Denmark required the US to remove them (all of the pieces and associated plane parts and radioactive ice). One bit is still missing but considered “not a big deal”. > **[50 years ago, a U.S. military jet crashed in Greenland – with 4 nuclear bombs...](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/50-years-ago-a-us-military-jet-crashed-in-greenland-with-4-nuclear-bombs-on-board)** > > In what came to be known as the Thule incident, an American bomber crashed in Greenland, spreading radioactive wreckage across 3 square miles. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=57)