# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1241 "2025-01-29T06:26:49Z")
What could possibly go wrong with this? I just saw on CNN, a segment titled [Woman builds retreat for pardoned Jan. 6 offenders](https://edition.cnn.com/2025/01/28/politics/video/video-pardons-january-6-digvid). The video is 4’ 39" long. Of note is this comment at 02’ 05" from Don Hazard (brief bio of him starting at 01’ 14", stating he was part of the Patriot Boys of North Texas\*): > Total freedom. I mean, got my rights back. You know, was able to go in a gun shop the other day right when I got back to Texas and check out some firearms and whatnot, you know, without feeling like I was doing–without doing something against the law. And when asked if he regretted participating in the insurrection, his response at 02’ 27": > The only regrets that I have about what I did was just that I got outsmarted by the Left. It was a total setup. It was a trap, and we walked right into it. We did exactly what they wanted us to do. What about the judges and the prosecutors who sent the insurrectionists to prison? (03’ 35") > Federal judges, prosecutors, I think, they’re all guilty of treason. & this lovely sentiment at 03’ 34" if he thinks there should be retribution: > Most definitely. \*Back on February 16, 2023, UPI had [this nifty report when Hazard pled guilty](https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2023/02/16/patriot-boys-militia-leader-pleads-guilty-jan-6-assault-police/8491676593165/). > A leader of the Patriot Boys of North Texas, a self-described militia based near Dallas, pleaded guilty Thursday to assaulting a police officer during the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Again, what could go wrong with pardoning violent felons and putting them together? In case you missed it, the woman building this “community”, mentioned a group called the [J6 Road Home](htt ps:/ /j6 road hom e.c om/) (link broken like the group’s minds) which has some _interesting_ partners listed in a links scrolling gallery at the bottom of the “vision” page. Those outfits, and the woman’s project, are engaged in nothing short of building a cohort for a future attack. And this is what we get from a petulant toddler getting put back into the most important office on the planet. It will only get worse. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1242 "2025-01-29T18:54:58Z")
[And the bully backs down!](https://us.yahoo.com/news/white-house-set-fight-court-134315706.html) (The link goes to Yahoo.) > The Trump administration on Wednesday rescinded a sweeping directive to pause federal loans, grants and other financial assistance, a White House official said, just shortly before it was set to appear in court for a second straight day to defend the policy. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1243 "2025-01-29T19:06:23Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > just shortly before it was set to appear in court I think this is the reason. They don’t want a court ruling that this kind of thing is clearly Not Allowed, so they can tweak it a bit and come back with something similar. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1244 "2025-01-29T19:14:17Z")
No doubt. But they’re sticking with the birthereo\* nonsense and that’s in the courts. Hey! This just occurred to me. If all funds disbursement were stopped and only approved penny by penny by Trump, then the courts woudl be broke and could not function. That way, the courts could not rule his inanities illegal. \*birther executive order ---
**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1245 "2025-01-29T19:29:21Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [And the bully backs down!](https://us.yahoo.com/news/white-house-set-fight-court-134315706.html) (The link goes to Yahoo.) What a piece of shit. Sow chaos (from the article) is not clearly exaggeration. Just toss out something that is pretty clearly illegal to terrify and imbalance huge numbers of people, and then just say, “Never mind.” I’m sure Elmo can explain the efficiency of that approach to me. This is what we are going to be seeing for 4 years. Yeah, the bureaucracy hs its share of inefficiency. As - I would contend - do most large institutions including private industry. But at least some portion of that inefficiency was accompanied by some degree of consistency and predictability. This administration wants no one - fed employee or private citizen - to be confident about what - if anything - they can expect from their federal government. Which I personally think is an abhorrent position. Oh wait - the rich can pe pretty certain that their profits will be maximized, and that their concerns will be moved to the front of any lines. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1246 "2025-01-29T20:13:44Z")
And now they say they didn’t > > [@](#): > > This is NOT a rescission of the federal funding freeze. > > It is simply a rescission of the OMB memo. > > Why? To end any confusion created by the court’s injunction. > > The President’s EO’s on federal funding remain in full force and effect, and will be rigorously implemented. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1247 "2025-01-29T20:18:40Z")
Or to put it in third-grade\* playground terms: > “Did not!” > “Did so!” > “Did not!” > “Did so!” \*With apologies to any thitrd graders who may be reading. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1248 "2025-01-29T20:44:19Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > condemned her as not being Christian because > \*\* Christianity doesn’t have bishops Actually, I’m waiting for the day they get their theocracy, because on day two we will have the evangelicals, Catholics, and Mormons at war over who the real Christians are. I’m sure we will have a nice time in the Schadenfreude thread. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1249 "2025-01-29T21:03:49Z")
Straight bigotry here: > **[Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/kenklippenstein.bsky.social/post/3lgvbolicuc22)** > > Intelligence officials are starting to leak to me now too. Here’s a memo Defense Intelligence Agency personnel received instructing them to suspend observances including: > \- Holocaust Remembrance Day > \- MLK Day > \- Juneteenth ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1250 "2025-01-29T21:12:42Z")
[Kyle Cheney: “In court just now, the states are introducing @PressSec tweet saying the funding freeze is still active as evidence that their lawsuit should continue.” — Bluesky](https://bsky.app/profile/kyledcheney.bsky.social/post/3lgvronvd6s2t) > Judge MCCONNELL will _grant_ the restraining order, saying the withdrawal of the “hugely ambiguous” OMB order is only a distinction without a difference "based on comments by the president’s press secretary.” ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1251 "2025-01-29T21:36:55Z")
“If we don’t have to _celebrate_ them, is there – I mean, really – is there _any_ reason why we should still have to treat them like human beings?” ---
**Author:** ![Nightaudit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nightaudit/32/17181_2.png) [@Nightaudit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightaudit)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1252 "2025-01-29T21:56:05Z")
The more fucked up shit they do; the more I think that’s the actual plan… break the country down so badly that they can remake it in their warped Anarcho-capitalist fever dream. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1253 "2025-01-29T21:58:56Z")
How long before some MAGA in Congress introduces a bill to make something related to Trump a national holiday? Trump’s birthday or Jan. 6th, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1254 "2025-01-29T22:05:39Z")
How about the third Monday in January, the date his holiness began his eternal reign with the most well attended event in human history. They can name it “ **M** aga **L** oves its **K** ing” day. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1255 "2025-01-29T22:09:02Z")
‘April 20th needs to be a ~~holiday~~ holy day!’ ~ Elon - Reichsführer-Mars ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2025, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1256 "2025-01-29T23:34:17Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > The President’s EO’s on federal funding remain in full force and effect, and will be rigorously implemented. Good luck with that, Felon47. Also, this is why the Judge Merchan should have put him in jail for his multiple contempt of court. Fines he paid with other people’s money. Time in jail is personal. > [@Cervaise](#): > > Straight bigotry here: > > [@kenklippenstein.bsky.social on Bluesky](https://bsky.app/profile/kenklippenstein.bsky.social/post/3lgvbolicuc22) So, when will the order come down blocking all federal emergency aid to states which celebrate Indigenous People’s Day, Discoverer’s Day, or Native Americans’ Day in lieu of Columbus Day? (Discoverer’s Day in Hawai’i commemmorates the first discovery of the Hawai’ian islands by Polynesians.) > [@Nightaudit](#): > > The more fucked up shit they do; the more I think that’s the actual plan… break the country down so badly that they can remake it in their warped Anarcho-capitalist fever dream. The only plan Felon47 has is to punish the country for 2020’s election. There is nothing within him to plan to create anything else. He is now, as he always has been, all about punishing those who don’t bow to him. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1257 "2025-01-30T01:17:55Z")
And now a second judge has blocked Trump’s spending freeze and cited that tweet as the reason why. > **[Judge cites Trump's press secretary in looming restraining order decision](https://www.newsweek.com/judge-restraining-order-trump-funding-freeze-karoline-leavitt-2023207)** > > White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt insisted that the funding freeze would "remain in full force and effect." It’s a good thing the fascists are so goddamn incompetent that they openly brag in writing about how they’re trying to pull one over on the judicial branch. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1258 "2025-01-30T01:27:08Z")
I just posted about this like five posts ago, but indeed. They’re not very smart. ---
**Author:** ![romansperson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/romansperson/32/17100_2.png) [@romansperson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/romansperson)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1259 "2025-01-30T02:11:01Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The wording of the letter is apparently very similar to the one Elmo Husk sent Twitter’s employees when he bought it in 2022, right down to the subject line. I think both this and the spending freeze have Elmo’s fingerprints all over them. All hail President Musk. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1260 "2025-01-30T02:16:57Z")
[And the concentration camp will soon be up and running.](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/29/trump-guantanamo-detention-center) (The link goes to The _Guardian_. I removed the hyperlinks.) > Donald Trump has signed an executive order to prepare a huge detention facility at Guantánamo Bay that he said could be used to hold up to 30,000 immigrants deported from the US. > > Trump signaled earlier on Wednesday that he intended to issue an order instructing the Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security to open a center in order to “detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people”. > > “Some of them are so bad, we don’t even trust the countries [of origin] to hold them because we don’t want them coming back,” he said. “So we’re going to send them out to Guantánamo. This will double our capacity immediately.” There’s more at the link, but let me highlight something from that last paragraph. > _**“Some of them are so bad, we don’t even trust the countries [of origin] to hold them because we don’t want them coming back,” he said. “So we’re going to send them out to Guantánamo.**_ He’s stating here that these people will be sent to a camp not on American soil and _ **will not** _ be deported. They will be held _ **forever** _. Who had this on their bingo card? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=64)