# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1281 "2025-01-30T12:11:51Z")
Update on the “buyout” > [@](#): > > Just a quick update on the buyout offer Musk/Trump made to federal employees. Spoiler alert: it’s not going well. Below are comments from a reddit group comprised of federal employees. To summarize: they ain’t havin’ it. > > #### This is a Musk email. A twitter post noticed this: "NEW: The memo sent to government employees this evening offering them buyouts very closely mirrors an email Musk sent to Twitter employees in 2022 — down to the same subject line “A Fork in the Road.” > > #### -------------------------- > > #### Because they thought we’d all quit. The best way to stick it to them is to show up like we’ve been doing. I’m going to keep doing my job until someone drags me out of me POD > > * * * > > #### I was chill and laid back prior. Now I’m digging my heels in out of spite. I’m a big time hater and being petty is my favorite thing to do. > > * * * > > (more – see linked article) > **[Buyout Offer's Unintended Consequences: updated](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/1/29/2299940/-Buyout-Offer-s-Unintended-Consequences?utm_campaign=trending)** > > ADDED FOR CONTEXT Someone in the comments asked for more context, and I’m happy to provide. This article offers a detailed explanation, but in short, the Trump administration announced Tuesday that it was offering “buyouts” to all federal... ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1282 "2025-01-30T12:19:25Z")
The investigation into the collision over the Potomac had not really even begun, but, hey, [Trump wasted no time in blaming the military pilot](https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-potomac-plane-crash-34580881). (The link goes to _Irish Star_.) > President Donald Trump has claimed that the midair [collision between an American Airlines plane and a U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter](https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/potomac-river-plane-crash-text-34579868)on Wednesday night could have been avoided, with Vice President JD Vance also [posting about the incident on social media.](https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/jd-vance-potomac-plane-crash-34580078) > > On Truth Social, Trump, [collision between an American Airlines plane and a US Army Black Hawk helicopter](https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/potomac-river-plane-crash-text-34579868), wrote: “The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport. The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time.” > > He continued: “It is a CLEAR NIGHT, the lights on the plane were blazing, why didn’t the helicopter go up or down, or turn. Why didn’t the control tower tell the helicopter what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane.” > > Trump concluded with strong words: “This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!” _There is more at the link._ Personally, I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if Trump or Hegseth orders the Army to not disburse survivor’s benefits to the helicopter crew’s family. After all, according to Trump, they caused the crash. Here’s an idea, one which is rapidly approaching the same census numbers as unicorns: let’s do an investigation by competent professionals and determine the cause or causes of the collision based on actual evidence. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1283 "2025-01-30T12:36:06Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Trump concluded with strong words: “This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. NOT GOOD!!!” I don’t know how I will endure these predictable insipid proclamations everytime there is a disaster. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1284 "2025-01-30T12:36:08Z")
Isn’t it obvious, the Black Hawk helicopter was a DEI hire? And did you notice none of our helicopters are White? They’re all Indians, and not the good ones either. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1285 "2025-01-30T12:37:53Z")
Was the Secretary of Defense immediately up on the situation or was he on a bender? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1286 "2025-01-30T12:48:03Z")
This kind of thing didn’t happen when Biden was president. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1287 "2025-01-30T13:13:29Z")
They literally had to come and throw the Inspector General for the USDA out of her office. Well, not so dramatic – they “escorted” her out, after she refused to leave, saying that her firing had been handled illegally. Which it was. Good for her > **[USDA inspector general escorted out of her office after defying White House](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/01/29/usda-inspector-general-escorted-office-trump-white-house/78024513007/)** > > Phyllis Fong, a 22-year veteran of the Agriculture Department, had told colleagues that she intended to stay after the White House fired her Friday. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1288 "2025-01-30T13:36:45Z")
You joke, but I just checked on Breitbart and there are lots of people asking that question, non-ironically. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1289 "2025-01-30T14:34:44Z")
> [@Ellecram](#): > > I wish I could be put in a coma for 4 years. > [@Monty](#): > > With the gutting of funding to everything, you’d not last four years in a coma. You’ve just made **Ellecram’s** plan more attractive. > [@TriPolar](#): > > This kind of thing [the mid-air collision at Reagan] didn’t happen when Biden was president. **Mrs Magill** wondered aloud this morning whether the air traffic controllers had been shit-canned. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1290 "2025-01-30T16:14:23Z")
> [@Maus\_Magill](#): > > **Mrs Magill** wondered aloud this morning whether the air traffic controllers had been shit-canned Well, they would have been, but for the fact that the people that would have fired them have already been sacked. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1291 "2025-01-30T16:28:15Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > the people that would have fired them have already been sacked. Holy Grail, Batman! > [@Monty](#): > > The investigation into the collision over the Potomac had not really even begun, but, hey, [Trump wasted no time in blaming the military pilot](https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/donald-trump-potomac-plane-crash-34580881). (The link goes to _Irish Star_.) As a pilot, and therefore an amateur crash investigator, my initial **guess** is that the Black Hawk pilot was in the wrong. ISTM that the airline pilot was on short final, probably a bit nose-high for landing. I heard yesterday that the Black Hawk pilot was instructed to pass behind the jet. The rules say that less maneuverable aircraft have the right-of-way over less maneuverable ones. So it was on the helicopter pilot to see and avoid the less-maneuverable jet that was 400 feet AGL and on short final. ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1292 "2025-01-30T16:42:07Z")
Trumps press conference regarding the crash is such an abomination…just unbelievable rambling bullshit about blame and himself and planes and air controllers. And of course blaming dei hiring…(and a few words about the victims). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1293 "2025-01-30T16:42:48Z")
My wife didn’t want to listen to him. Did he say something about Russia? ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1294 "2025-01-30T16:45:03Z")
Weltschmerz _"the depression that comes when one compares the way the world should be… to the way the world is._" This is all I can manage to describe my mood today. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1295 "2025-01-30T16:45:14Z")
I was watching last night when it happened, and, sadly, my first thought was “a-hole is gonna say this is somehow Crooked Joe’s fault”. So fucking sick of this one trick pony. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1296 "2025-01-30T16:56:54Z")
I just got modded (appropriately) in the MPSIMS thread about the crash for commenting on this shitshow of a press conference. This fucking piece of garbage is an embarrassment to our country. If I had a loved one on that plane, I would be absolutely livid. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1297 "2025-01-30T17:00:52Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > This kind of thing didn’t happen when Biden was president. This is literally true, and I certainly hope the media repeats this fact over and over again: this is the worst domestic air incident since 2009. This never happened when Biden was president. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1298 "2025-01-30T17:03:58Z")
I got five bucks that says he orders his Transportation Secretary to blame ATC and its DEI policies. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1299 "2025-01-30T17:44:33Z")
I was impressed that the anchor on CNN (Dana Bash I think) stated that Trump was president now and this was his problem to deal with. Don’t count on that happening often. I’ll be saying “This never happened when Biden was president” a lot over the next few years. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2025, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1300 "2025-01-30T17:47:19Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I was impressed that the anchor on CNN (Dana Bash I think) stated that Trump was president now and this was his problem to deal with Maybe the controllers decided to take the 9 months of pay offer and stayed home yesterday. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=66)