# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1341 "2025-01-31T05:15:32Z")

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Hell, the unlamented [Martha McSally](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_McSally) was the first woman pilot to fly combat missions (1995, Iraq, A-10s) and the first to command a combat squadron (354th Fighter Squadron). She also sued Donald Rumsfeld over being forced to wear an abbaya to placate the Saudis.

Then she decided the best way to further her political career was to attach herself to Trump’s teat, lost the 2020 special election to fill McCain’s seat to Mark Kelly and was never heard from again.

> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> That would be entertainment.

🎶 Blowing bubbles, soft and fine 🎶

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1342 "2025-01-31T05:15:40Z")

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> [@Sylvanz](#):
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> Yes, right in the frigid Potomac. I’d buy popcorn and a giant pop to see that “big tough guy” babble through one of his idiot stream of consciousness word salads while treading water in a 35 degree river.

Do you have any idea how wet from the standpoint of water that river is?

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1343 "2025-01-31T05:49:55Z")

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No, I guess well have to ask the water treading kook that one. He, after all, is the expert where water wetness standpoints are concerned

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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1344 "2025-01-31T06:05:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Because you tell me, what’s the site? The _water_ ? You want me to go swimming?”

He’s said a lot of stupid shit. Some just because he’s ignorant and incurious, or he doesn’t care if it sounds like stupid shit. Or doesn’t care so stop asking me.

“You want me to go swimming?” - I cannot think of a circumstance where a President could have made a statement (or off-the-cup quip) llke that besides Reagan, if asked to join Gorbachev in a spa.

Goddammit, the nightmare I went to bed with in 2020 when he’d made his acceptance speech and FOX and the BBC were like, well, maybe - is happening.

The Trump The.

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**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1345 "2025-01-31T07:22:59Z")

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Do these people all have such a hard-on for DEI hires because they themselves never qualified for anything?  
Did anyone in Trumps circles actually do the work to be qualified for something?

(To be fair: I do not have any formal qualifications; I’m just good at my job 😉 )

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1346 "2025-01-31T07:26:45Z")

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> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> Do these people all have such a hard-on for DEI hires because they themselves never qualified for anything?

I’m reasonably sure that’s a common reason, actually. If somebody wants to be sent to the head of the line _just_ because they are a straight white male Christian, it strongly indicates they have no other qualifications.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> The Trump The.

I understood that reference.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1348 "2025-01-31T07:59:13Z")

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I didn’t. Could you explain it, please?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1349 "2025-01-31T08:13:31Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> is there nobody to tell him “this is not the time” and STFU about DEI?

There’s nobody to tell him _anything_. He doesn’t like that. Anyone who tries to say “Hey, Mr President… You probably shouldn’t be saying/doing that” is going to get described as ‘nasty’ in his very next tweet and find themselves surprised that their face is suddenly being eaten.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1350 "2025-01-31T08:14:16Z")

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Not to mention it is literally impossible for him to STFU.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
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> [@Monty](#):
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> Could you explain it, please?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gaXigSu72A4/hqdefault.jpg "The Simpsons - Die Bart Die (English)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaXigSu72A4)

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1352 "2025-01-31T08:42:05Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> What we have in the United States, instead of a real president, is someone who says [this](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/dc-plane-crash-site-trump-swimming-b2689573.html) (the link goes to the _Independent_):
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> > [When asked about his plans to visit the crash site,](https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-dei-plane-crash-cause-swim-joke-b2689557.html) he replied: “I have a plan to visit, not the site.

And when he still doesn’t visit, he can say he has _concepts_ of a plan.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1353 "2025-01-31T08:53:18Z")

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> **[Marisa Kabas (@marisakabas.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/marisakabas.bsky.social/post/3lgysrrklb22l)**
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> A USAID HR director sent out this email today to staff letting them know he was placed on administrative leave.
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> “Today, representatives of the Agency's front office and DOGE instructed me to violate the due process of our employees by issuing...

A federal HR director was removed from his position for refusing to break the law.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1354 "2025-01-31T09:35:10Z")

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > What we have in the United States, instead of a real president, is someone who says [this](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/dc-plane-crash-site-trump-swimming-b2689573.html) (the link goes to the _Independent_):
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> > > [When asked about his plans to visit the crash site,](https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/trump-dei-plane-crash-cause-swim-joke-b2689557.html) he replied: “I have a plan to visit, not the site.
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> And when he still doesn’t visit, he can say he has _concepts_ of a plan.

And when he–_finally_–demonstrates some awareness of the blowback for his inane utteerance, he’ll say, “People handle grief in different ways. I handled my grief over this with humor. I was joking.” Of course he won’t realize that’s no better than the inane comment in the first place.

> [@Cervaise](#):
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> A federal HR director was removed from his position for refusing to break the law.

If I were he, I would immediately contact the inspector general over this! Wait a minute.

DAMMIT!

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1355 "2025-01-31T12:23:37Z")

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> [@Lancia](#):
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> Keeping the above in mind, when Trump says “DEI hire” what he really _wants_ to say is “some fucking n\*\*\*\*r

100%

As I’ve mentioned, everyone should spend a little time on the Breitbart comments section. It’s enlightening. Because this is exactly how they use “DEI Hire”

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
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I’ll take your word for it, if you don’t mind. No way I’m giving them even one nanosecond of my time and certainly not going to grace them with a view.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1357 "2025-01-31T12:27:19Z")

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That seems to be the consensus, but I will say they have some clever left-leaning trolls that really lather up the MAGA faithful.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The buyout offer for federal employees was apparently sent out by Elon Musk without Trump’s knowledge.

If that were so, in any other executive organization anywhere in any field of work soneone doing that would mean he’d be dumped at once. But hey, what fun…

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1359 "2025-01-31T13:17:12Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> And when he–_finally_–demonstrates some awareness of the blowback for his inane utteerance, he’ll say, “People handle grief in different ways. I handled my grief over this with humor. I was joking.”

You know, if he’d gone full Borscht Belt and said “You **want I should** go swimming?”, I’d have to give him points for originality.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2025, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1360 "2025-01-31T13:25:25Z")

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> [@Coriolanus](#):
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> Wernher von Braun was German and served Germany in WWII fairly well with the V1 rockets yet a bit of improvement on the V2’s and any possibly V3’s would be trouble for the UK.

The V3 existed and was not a rocket but a giant [gun](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V-3_cannon) designed to fire from France into the UK. It was destroyed by the RAF, 617 Squadron the “Dambusters”, before it could do anything.

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