# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1421 "2025-02-01T21:15:24Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> …if the helicopter and plane hadn’t been in the same place as each other, there wouldn’t have been a crash.

Dang. That explains so much. Like the time I tripped over my cat. And the time my neighbor and I bumped into each other in the laundry room. And the time I drove into a post. Two objects trying to occupy the same space at the same time. Who’d a thunk it. That’s one deep dude-dude we’ve got in the presidency.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1422 "2025-02-01T21:58:37Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> Dang. That explains so much. Like the time I tripped over my cat.

Black cat?!

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1423 "2025-02-01T22:03:59Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Okay. It was my sense that the same stuff was getting posted to both places, but maybe that’s the intent.

I don’t see any difference. Other than that you can say fuck here. Well, I guess you can say fuck there to, so no, no difference.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1424 "2025-02-01T22:18:38Z")

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> [@Aspenglow](#):
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> The hope is that P&E threads will be used to discuss in a mature-ish manner the political ramifications of particular events and actions, whereas BBQ Pit threads will be used to vent about how angry it may make us.
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> Unfortunately, it’s becoming a distinction without a difference in P&E. Not an improvement, in my opinion.

Could we just consolidate all that into one thread, maybe called it “the Clusterfuck of Horrors” or something like that?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [February 1, 2025, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1425 "2025-02-01T22:48:11Z")

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Sorry, no. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1426 "2025-02-02T00:24:13Z")

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> [@Maserschmidt](#):
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> Could we just consolidate all that into one thread, maybe called it “the Clusterfuck of Horrors” or something like that?

It’s like having two different bars that you like to go to. They have the same booze, the same snacks, and the same TVs, but maybe one is a little rougher than the other. The atmosphere is a bit different. Not exactly the same crowd. You’d hate to have them combined into one bar, wouldn’t you? That would take some of the sport out of it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1427 "2025-02-02T01:52:02Z")

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[Trump orders military strikes in Somalia](https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-he-ordered-airstrikes-islamic-state-somalia-2025-02-01/). (The link goes to _Reuters_.)

> U.S. forces carried out airstrikes in Somalia on Saturday targeting a senior Islamic State attack planner and other members of the militant group, killing many of them, President Donald Trump said.
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> “These killers, who we found hiding in caves, threatened the United States and our Allies,” Trump said in a post on Truth Social.
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> “The strikes destroyed the caves they live in, and killed many terrorists without, in any way, harming civilians.”
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> Saturday’s strikes were carried out in the Golis Mountains and an initial assessment indicated many militants were killed, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said. No civilians were harmed, he said.
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> Reuters could not independently verify those details.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1428 "2025-02-02T02:06:45Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Reuters could not independently verify those details.

Everything is going as planned.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1429 "2025-02-02T02:09:14Z")

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‘No new wars.’ - Donald J. Trump, Millionaire.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1430 "2025-02-02T02:10:16Z")

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Wait we have allies?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1431 "2025-02-02T02:11:32Z")

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> [@dougrb](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > Reuters could not independently verify those details.
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> Everything is going as planned.

This is exactly why I would likely get fired if I were writing for _Reuters_ today. I would’ve written:

> Reuters could not independently verify those details, not that truth and veracity matter to Trump and his minions.

> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Wait we have allies?

I guess yes, if you count the leaders of neo-Nazi parties around the world.

Oops. They’re not our allies. They’re Trump’s allies.

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**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1432 "2025-02-02T02:24:36Z")

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As far as the media goes… I’m surprised I’m seeing anti-trump shit on facebook. I figured Zuck would have none of that.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1433 "2025-02-02T02:29:12Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> ‘No new wars.’ - Donald J. Trump, Millionaire.

It’s not a war if the other side has no chance to fight back. /s

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**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1434 "2025-02-02T03:19:59Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> “These killers, who we found hiding in caves, threatened the United States and our Allies,” Trump said in a post on Truth Social.

This is fair squeeze; threatening US allies is the singular prerogative of the US.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1435 "2025-02-02T03:20:04Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> > [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> > ‘No new wars.’ - Donald J. Trump, Millionaire.
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> It’s not a war if the other side has no chance to fight back. /s

I read this exact comment, minus the sarcasm tag, in a response by a magaflatearther in a comment on one of the news reports about the strikes. The rest of the post, of course, was Trump fanboy masturbatory glee.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1436 "2025-02-02T03:37:01Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> “These killers, who we found hiding in caves, threatened the United States and our Allies,” Trump said in a post on Truth Social.

I believe these guys were the masterminds behind the Bowling Green Massacre.

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**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1437 "2025-02-02T03:59:35Z")

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He’ll give 'em gator-aid. It’s what plants want. 😉

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**Author:** ![iamatractorboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iamatractorboy/32/21261_2.png) [@iamatractorboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iamatractorboy)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1438 "2025-02-02T07:10:01Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> Wait we have allies?

Yeh, you know, North Korea, Russia, etc

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1439 "2025-02-02T07:56:26Z")

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How I wish that were a joke. But, of course, China is no longer in the \*etc".

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2025, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1440 "2025-02-02T09:14:39Z")

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[More on Trump’s idea to end the war!](https://www.aol.com/news/exclusive-u-wants-ukraine-hold-151423411.html) (The link goes to AOL.)

> The United States wants Ukraine to hold elections, potentially by the end of the year, especially if Kyiv can agree a truce with Russia in the coming months, President Donald Trump’s top Ukraine official told Reuters.
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> Keith Kellogg, Trump’s special envoy for Ukraine and Russia, said in an interview that Ukrainian presidential and parliamentary elections, suspended during the war with Russia, “need to be done”.
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> “Most democratic nations have elections in their time of war. I think it is important they do so,” Kellogg said. “I think it is good for democracy. That’s the beauty of a solid democracy, you have more than one person potentially running.”

We all know how much respect Trump has for the results of an election. This time, though, he’s got a reason to tout it even though Ukraine law prohibits elections during martial law. From the link above:

> “Trump is reacting, in my view, to … Russian feedback,” the official said. “Russia wants to see an end to Zelenskiy.”

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