# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1581 "2025-02-05T15:06:07Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Who’s going to work in his new hotels and condos?

> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Or he can get all the deported “Mexicans” from the US.

This. After all, many of them work in construction, right? And they’re used to hot weather and impossible working conditions, amirite? Win-win.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1582 "2025-02-05T15:36:11Z")

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My last gig was as Senior Management in an e-commerce (ie, dot-com) company. In my early days with the company, it was still the Wild West.

When the need arose, I would literally stand behind some of our extremely talented and not-all-that risk averse IT people and tell them what I needed. They would then code it, in real-time, against the production server – even during the peak of our holiday website order volume spikes.

At some point, we hired in seasoned CIO’s whose flippin’ heads _exploded_ at the mere _mention_ of this having happened.

They would invariably go on to denigrate and disparage me, those (by now, former) IT people, and all who came before Them as irresponsible, know-nothing cowboys – cowboys who – I would always be quick to point out – turned over a company worthy of attracting _your_ (the new CIO’s) estimable talents and reputation.

The mere possibility that Musk’s “bro’s” are literally coding against the production server of the US Treasury … is totally incomprehensible to me.

OT: my brother met our Director of Software QA at my wedding. They fell in love and have long since been married. They’re MAGA; otherwise, I’d love to send her this article and watch _her_ head explode based on the same thing. I fear, though, that she would only reply with, “Yeah? So what??”

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**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1583 "2025-02-05T15:51:59Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Maybe if I were God I might send trump to his eternal punishment as an Assembly programmer.

Make him code in Brainfuck.

> **[Brainfuck](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck)**
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> Brainfuck is an esoteric programming language created in 1993 by Swiss student Urban Müller. Designed to be extremely minimalistic, the language consists of only eight simple commands, a data pointer, and an instruction pointer.
> Brainfuck is an example of a so-called Turing tarpit: it can be used to write any program, but it is not practical to do so because it provides so little abstraction that the programs get very long or complicated. While Brainfuck is fully Turing-complete, it is not inten...

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1584 "2025-02-05T15:53:54Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> I know, totally off topic, but I would just learn COBOL for US$300/hr.
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> It cannot be harder than that [bastard](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/XSLT) XLST

Yes, this.

Software engineers in the 21st century _constantly_ have to learn new APIs if not whole languages, but they also have assistance from things like AI, so I very much doubt that this is a genuine issue.

The issue with COBOL and the millenium bug, was that companies / institutions wanted the peace of mind of hiring someone with 5 years+ commercial experience, and that’s not a thing that young developers could study their way into.

Musk doesn’t care about peace of mind (he has a _piece_ of mind).

Probably the suggestion that COBOL would be an impediment was meant tongue-in-cheek anyway, but I’m just saying just in case.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1585 "2025-02-05T15:55:02Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I thought western imperialism went out of fashion in the 19th century.

This is another example of liberalism being vindicated. On _so_ many issues, various one trick left-wing ponies complain constantly about how people they dub as “liberals” are indistinguishable on not only imperialism, but also immigration and income inequality amongst many other issues. (Of course, _which issues_ they think they should drop or emphasize depends on the flavor of leftist.)

It’s quite obvious that Trump is quite worse on all these left-wing hobby horses. Since many of them do not affect me directly, normally I would feel schadenfreude for the non-voters and bothsidesers, but it’s crowded out by the dread I feel in my stomach every day for the ongoing destruction of my country.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1586 "2025-02-05T16:20:50Z")

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**Trump on airfares**

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> President [Donald Trump](https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/donald-trump) said Tuesday an airplane flight costs $2 or “nothing” while proposing travel alternatives to the [high-speed rail](https://www.huffpost.com/topic/california-high-speed-rail) under construction in California.

Just as a benchmark, fares on Trump Air were $49 to $125 for a 48 minute helicopter flight, according to Wikipedia. And that was back in the 90s. I don’t know what the rates were for the Trump Shuttle, but I’ll bet it was a bit mor than $2.

> **[Trump Makes A Cost Estimate That Reflects The ‘Fairy Tale World’ He Lives In](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-airplane-two-dollars_n_67a32c98e4b01fe567fb0626)**
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> The president appeared grossly out of touch in talking about the price of transportation.

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1587 "2025-02-05T16:38:05Z")

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Damn! I guess I can go ahead and take those trips that I’ve been putting off because of the cost of airfare. I’m seriously out of touch! 🤦‍♀️

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1588 "2025-02-05T16:41:54Z")

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I mean, it’s one plane ticket, Michael…

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1589 "2025-02-05T16:41:57Z")

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Who coulda guessed that under Trump a plane ride and a dozen eggs would cost the same!

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1590 "2025-02-05T16:42:08Z")

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from the article:

Bro thinks you can pay for your flight with a fifth of a banana

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1591 "2025-02-05T16:58:40Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> Who coulda guessed that under Trump a plane ride and a dozen eggs would cost the same!

Pretty soon you’ll be able to pay for a plane ticket with ONE egg!

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**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1592 "2025-02-05T17:27:41Z")

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Back in 2016 when I was flying twice a week I managed to grab a flight for £8 including tax. The taxi to the airport cost me 3 times that amount. But the taxi also had 3 times the legroom compared to the Ryanair plane.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1593 "2025-02-05T17:58:47Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Who had “ethnic cleansing” on your trump bingo card?
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> Not me.

I thought that was the center “Free” square.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1594 "2025-02-05T18:00:30Z")

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Maybe a ticket for an aeroplane costs $2. A ticket for an actual airplane costs more.

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1595 "2025-02-05T18:06:20Z")

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Fun fact: Canadian regulations use the term “[aeroplane](https://tc.canada.ca/en/corporate-services/acts-regulations/list-regulations/canadian-aviation-regulations-sor-96-433/standards/airworthiness-chapter-525-transport-category-aeroplanes-canadian-aviation-regulations-cars)” throughout.

Though tickets are more expensive here in CAD.

Perhaps he means another denomination also called “dollar”?

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1596 "2025-02-05T18:12:42Z")

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> [@Mr.Greenjeans](#):
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> Maybe a ticket for an aeroplane costs $2.

A flight on this 747 is probably under two bucks.

[![](https://i.redd.it/3wiympxch9i11.jpg) ](https://i.redd.it/3wiympxch9i11.jpg)

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1597 "2025-02-05T18:26:38Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> A flight on this 747 is probably under two bucks.

You will probably be able to ride those at The Gaza Strip Mall.

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1598 "2025-02-05T18:37:50Z")

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But would you feel safe when all the Air Traffic Controllers are fired/bought out/deported?

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1599 "2025-02-05T19:17:27Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Bro thinks you can pay for your flight with a fifth of a banana

I think part of the proposal is to let you eat cake

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**Post date:** [February 5, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1600 "2025-02-05T19:23:33Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> Perhaps he means another denomination also called “dollar”?

Maybe it’s only $2 if you buy it with Trump meme coin. But you have to buy a minimum number of meme coins first for the offer to be valid.

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