# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1741 "2025-02-09T06:50:56Z")

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Jeez, I didn’t even think of “mammary.” Well, no problem, I’m glad you liked my Trumpian comment about mammoths, and let me assure you, I’m not a boob. 😉

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1742 "2025-02-09T06:56:56Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> > [@Monty](#):
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> > > White-Cain, 58, is a megachurch preacher from Florida who has endorsed biblical interpretations **that some evangelical Christians believe go too far.**
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> My bold.
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> What could those be? I didn’t think they had limits when it came to jebus.

I was wondering the same thing. For anyone who has supported Trump until now, what is “too far”?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1743 "2025-02-09T07:00:11Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> For anyone who has supported Trump until now, what is “too far”?

Well, when it comes to Christian theology, “actually following the teachings of Jesus about selflessness and peace” is clearly beyond the pale.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1744 "2025-02-09T07:50:53Z")

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> [@yendis](#):
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> Musk himself would not qualify.

Not being a native South African, my Afrikaans is very rudimentary. I would love to see Elon’s matric grade for higher-grade Afrikaans.

[Quora](https://www.quora.com/What-is-Elon-Musks-native-language-English-or-Afrikaans-Does-he-speak-other-languages), albeit a dubious source, suggests it was probably not stellar.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1745 "2025-02-09T08:54:02Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#):
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> Material and especially financial success is seen as an evidence of divine grace or favor and blessings.

This is why Jesus and all his apostles died such rich and prosperous men.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1746 "2025-02-09T09:02:15Z")

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What are you on about? Of course they were rich and prosperous. The Man Himself was throwing money around left and right (but mostly right, of course). And He even had a hottie he wasn’t married to stroking him. Everywhere He went people came up to Him with tears in their eyes, etc.

Remember the Jefferson Bible in which supernatural events were stripped from the original as were mentions of Christ’s deity? I’m sure you can figure out what shall be stripped from the Bible Trump/Felon47 is going to issue.

And speaking of that felon and religion, I just saw on YouTube his alleged heretic director of the White House Faith Office in which she started “speaking in tongues”.\* She’s full on into Trump worship.

These idiots, at the behest of their petty toddler tyrant, are going to destroy the country.

\*That was one part of [a video posted by Luke Beasely](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeMm6F6dhi4).

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 10:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1747 "2025-02-09T10:00:31Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Not being a native South African, my Afrikaans is very rudimentary. I would love to see Elon’s matric grade for higher-grade Afrikaans.

My BIL, from South Africa, can speak fluent Afrikaans.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1748 "2025-02-09T10:16:22Z")

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(OFF TOPIC) It’s kind of ridiculous that I feel more fluent in Bahasa Indonesia despite having visited twice, and each time for 4 weeks; and French, which I studied at school for 4 years.

But even though I live in South Africa now, my best efforts at speaking it meet the limits of Kaapse Taal, a distinctive slang version linked to Cape Town’s high density, poorer suburbs, the underworld and (some level of) criminality. (Tsotsie taal, which directly translates into “theif speak”, which as far as I know orginated inthe mines of Johannesburg)

I understand Egte Afrikaanse (even if I can’t spell it without Google) but struggle to speak.

I’ll not continue this hijack, except to say, Elon se poes.

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**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1749 "2025-02-09T11:44:50Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> My BIL, from South Africa, can speak fluent Afrikaans

Is you BIL an English South African or an Afrikaans South African? Because lots of English South Africans, from the more English bits of the country, are not fluent beyond whats needed to finish high school.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1750 "2025-02-09T11:52:43Z")

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I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

My BIL speaks Afrikaans. As far as I know, he can speak Afrikaans with anybody in South Africa. He also speaks impeccable English.

What’s your point?

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**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1751 "2025-02-09T12:43:28Z")

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Im trying to determine his ethnicity. And to point out that there is a large cultural diversity among white South Africans. Not surprising considering the country is A massive, B formed out of multiple seperate colonies and local kingdoms, many of which were at war with eachother in the decades before the Union was formed.

Not all white South Africans are of Afrikaans descent, only 50%ish are, and the rest are other colonial types mostly British.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1752 "2025-02-09T13:07:30Z")

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> [@Ellecram](#):
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> I thought Trump was trying to save government spending? A White House faith office is a total waste of money.

Trump couldn’t care less about saving the government money (nor could he care less about _anything_ that doesn’t personally benefit himself, for that matter).

The government cost-cutting measures are solely about hurting people and getting rid of things he doesn’t like, and receiving adulation from his base. Nothing more, nothing less.

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1753 "2025-02-09T13:39:44Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> Trump couldn’t care less about saving the government money (nor could he care less about _anything_ that doesn’t personally benefit himself, for that matter).
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> The government cost-cutting measures are solely about hurting people and getting rid of things he doesn’t like, and receiving adulation from his base. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yup. See his ‘Plastic Straw’ EO. Biden did something good for the environment, so of course Trump wants to roll that back.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
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For those of us playing the home game …

14 Characteristics of Fascism:  
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1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disregard for Human Rights
3. Identification of Enemies as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Widespread Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security

# **8. Religion and Government are Intertwined**

1. Corporate Power is Protected
2. Labor Power is Suppressed
3. Disrespect for Intellectuals and the Arts
4. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
5. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
6. Fraudulent Elections

–Lawrence Britt, Author, “Fascism, Anyone?”

We’re getting pretty close to BINGO (and to not having a country that any of us recognizes).

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> 1. Religion and Government are Intertwined
> 2. Corporate Power is Protected
> 3. Labor Power is Suppressed
> 4. Disrespect for Intellectuals and the Arts  
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> We’re getting pretty close to BINGO (and to not having a country that any of us recognizes).

Well, you can also tick off 11 on your bingo card, as Trump has fired the board of trustees of the Kennedy Center for Performing Arts and made \<checks notes\> Donald Trump Chairman. ([PBS](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-says-hes-naming-himself-chairman-of-the-kennedy-center-will-dictate-programming))

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Oh, I think we can tick off a _few_ of them. I just wanted to highlight which box _this_ move checked.

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When is he going to find time to ~~be President~~  ~~play golf~~ be President?

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> [@robby](#):
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> > [@Ellecram](#):
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> > I thought Trump was trying to save government spending?  
> > A White House faith office is a total waste of money.
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> Trump couldn’t care less about saving the government money (nor could he care less about _anything_ that doesn’t personally benefit himself, for that matter).
> 
> The government cost-cutting measures are solely about hurting people and getting rid of things he doesn’t like, and receiving adulation from his base. Nothing more, nothing less.

I have brain fog and forgot the /s but I thought it was implied 🙂

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**Post date:** [February 9, 2025, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1759 "2025-02-09T15:51:32Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> When is he going to find time to ~~be President~~  ~~play golf~~ be President?

A putting green in place of The Rose Garden somewhat solves that.

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Oh, I think we can tick off a _few_ of them

Of course, I’m just saying that’s one bingo number that hasn’t already been drawn multiple times already, so some of the elderly players might have missed it 😃

_“No drag shows in heaven, number 11”_

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