# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [November 11, 2024, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068 "2024-11-11T06:19:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 98
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1941 "2025-02-13T15:37:53Z")
Agile nation-destruction! ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1942 "2025-02-13T16:04:32Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Have you seen the DOGE Tracker? Seems like it ought to be up on a big billboard next to the Doomsday clock. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1943 "2025-02-13T17:28:57Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > The 2nd - buckaroo swashbuckling approach – was to shut it off and see if anyone complained. This is particularly fun when it is feed/report that is isn’t important until shit hits the fan and then it is critical. ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1944 "2025-02-13T17:34:38Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > Have you seen the DOGE Tracker? It’s a thing of beauty. It’s constantly updating, there is a Leaderboard, even a section for betting, and a long list of the fraud. Elon is like a comic book villain, only real. Sorry for the dumb question but is this real or is it some sort of satire or joke?\* \*As someone once said in this board, it’s incredible that we have to ask this at all. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1945 "2025-02-13T19:16:27Z")
I was able to read this once, but now it’s paywalled for me. > **[Trump and Musk Are Going to War Against Military Veterans](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/trump-musk-military-veterans-war-doge-1235266086/)** > > Donald Trump’s new order gives Musk and DOGE carte blanche and sets limits on hiring veterans and transitioning active duty military personnel. Basically, President Musk and Little Donnie Fail-Fail want to dismantle the Veterans Administration (VA). I’ve written another letter to my Senators and Congressman: > My wife is a combat veteran, having been a UH-60 Black Hawk pilot with the 101st Airborne during Desert Storm. (There’s a picture of her and her squadron in ‘H-60 Black Hawk in action’.) > > Rolling Stone and other sources are reporting that President Musk’s and Donald Trump’s now want to dismantle the Veterans Administration (VA). Musk has already said he wants to do away with Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and so on. > > THIS MUST STOP. > > Donald Trump and Elon Musk are clear and present dangers to the United States, and to our democracy. Donald Trump must be impeached, convicted, and removed from office immediately. Elon Must must be deported to his native South Africa. > > I hope I don’t sound hysterical, but I’ve studied history. I know what happened 90 years ago, and I can see it happening again. My wife did not serve her country in a war zone to see it destroyed. > > Thank you for your attention, > > [Johnny L.A.] ---
**Author:** ![velomont](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8491ac/32.png) [@velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1946 "2025-02-13T19:26:25Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > > [@aurora\_maire](#): > > > > Have you seen the DOGE Tracker? It’s a thing of beauty. It’s constantly updating, there is a Leaderboard, even a section for betting, and a long list of the fraud. Elon is like a comic book villain, only real. > > Sorry for the dumb question but is this real or is it some sort of satire or joke?\* Sorry for bumping this but, @aurora_maire, is the DOGE Tracker a genuine thing or some kind of satirical joke? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1947 "2025-02-13T20:07:22Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I’ve written another letter to my Senators and Congressman: Congressman Rick Larsen’s bot sent another form letter. > Thank you for contacting me about President Trump’s executive orders and Elon Musk’s illegal takeover of the Department of the Treasury. It is critical to my work to hear from you and I welcome the opportunity to write to you. > > Thank you to everyone who has called in, written in and rallied against Musk’s illegal takeover of the Treasury. Your voice and the voices of your family members, friends and neighbors are needed to fight back – and it’s working. > > The American people already won several rounds of the Republican Rip-Off. But we need to keep up the pressure. > > You can see my full statement on these issues on [YouTube](https://iqconnect.house.gov/iqextranet/iqClickTrk.aspx?&cid=WA02RL&crop=14147QQQ6725729QQQ4407804QQQ8010347&report_id=&redirect=https%3a%2f%2fyoutu.be%2f-_xDVWr0a18&redir_log=684153653935182) and on my social media pages. > > In addition, I support the _Taxpayer Data Protection Act_. This bill would stop Elon Musk from having access to private data and prevent people with conflicts of interest or without proper security clearance from accessing the Department of the Treasury’s highly sensitive payment system. > > Thank you again for contacting me. I appreciate hearing from you, and I am listening. Please continue to reach out. > > If you are interested in receiving periodic updates about my work in Congress, please sign up for my newsletter by [clicking here](https://iqconnect.house.gov/iqextranet/iqClickTrk.aspx?&cid=WA02RL&crop=14147QQQ6725729QQQ4407804QQQ8010347&report_id=&redirect=https%3a%2f%2flarsen.house.gov%2fcontact-rick%2fnewsletter&redir_log=218680490971344). I also invite you to follow me on [Facebook](https://iqconnect.house.gov/iqextranet/iqClickTrk.aspx?&cid=WA02RL&crop=14147QQQ6725729QQQ4407804QQQ8010347&report_id=&redirect=https%3a%2f%2fwww.facebook.com%2fRepRickLarsen&redir_log=211670138088268) , [Twitter](https://iqconnect.house.gov/iqextranet/iqClickTrk.aspx?&cid=WA02RL&crop=14147QQQ6725729QQQ4407804QQQ8010347&report_id=&redirect=http%3a%2f%2ftwitter.com%2fRepRickLarsen&redir_log=460985660363227), [Instagram](https://iqconnect.house.gov/iqextranet/iqClickTrk.aspx?&cid=WA02RL&crop=14147QQQ6725729QQQ4407804QQQ8010347&report_id=&redirect=https%3a%2f%2fwww.instagram.com%2frepricklarsen%2f&redir_log=830651437761284), [Medium](https://iqconnect.house.gov/iqextranet/iqClickTrk.aspx?&cid=WA02RL&crop=14147QQQ6725729QQQ4407804QQQ8010347&report_id=&redirect=https%3a%2f%2fmedium.com%2f%40RickLarsen&redir_log=429323045210) and [YouTube](https://iqconnect.house.gov/iqextranet/iqClickTrk.aspx?&cid=WA02RL&crop=14147QQQ6725729QQQ4407804QQQ8010347&report_id=&redirect=https%3a%2f%2fwww.youtube.com%2fuser%2fCongressmanLarsen%2f&redir_log=215395801086333). Very similar to the previous form letter. But at least a ‘1’ will be added to the contact counter. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1948 "2025-02-13T20:41:28Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Elon Must must be deported to his native South Africa. As Elon is a naturalized citizen, I don’t know that we could do that. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1949 "2025-02-13T20:43:46Z")
I’m sure he can be stripped of his citizenship. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1950 "2025-02-13T21:03:00Z")
In a bit of irony, Musk himself has advocated for [stripping Ilhan Omar of citizenship and deporting her](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5126520-freshman-texas-lawmaker-calling-for-deportation-of-ilhan-omar/). ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1951 "2025-02-13T22:31:48Z")
President Hindenburg sez “Nice country you got there, be a shame if something happened to it”. > **['Belligerent nonsense': Trump reignites outrage as he renews 'tiresome'...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-canada-state/)** > > President Donald Trump triggered a fresh wave of outrage on social media Thursday after he once again treated reporters to a rant about how Canada ought to be taken by the United States as a new state.The idea, an increasing obsession of Trump's as... ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1952 "2025-02-13T22:42:02Z")
> Trump went on to say that Canadians are “in danger” and “need our protection,” Good to see that Donny learned something from his mob ‘employees’. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1953 "2025-02-13T23:00:28Z")
I believe it’s time … again: _“It’s almost impossible to believe he exists. It’s as if we took everything that was bad about America, scraped it up off the floor, wrapped it all up in an old hot dog skin, and then taught it to make noises with its face.”_ –Anthony Citrano ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1954 "2025-02-13T23:10:38Z")
> [@velomont](#): > > Sorry for bumping this but, @aurora_maire, is the DOGE Tracker a genuine thing or some kind of satirical joke? You know, now I’m not so sure about the link I posted above. It’s not satire, though. It appears to be associated with the official DOGE website but not part of it. The official .gov site is here: [Work | DOGE: Department of Government Efficiency](https://www.doge.gov/) The “savings” page just says “Receipts coming soon, no later than Valentine’s day 💘”. I guess we will see tomorrow if it’s the same list as the one on the Tracker site. The "regulations’ page is interesting. It helpfully notes how many words are in the regulations for each department. The entire website is weird. And there is a caveat: “This is an enormous effort, and there are likely some errors or omissions. We will continue to strive for maximum accuracy over time.” That’s nice. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1955 "2025-02-13T23:23:25Z")
Just put a bag over his head and chain him to the floor of a C130, Bush style. ---
**Author:** ![TheTooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/919ad9/32.png) [@TheTooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheTooth)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1956 "2025-02-13T23:26:01Z")
Yes, it would be. There are many Canadians living in the US, in many different cities. I wonder which city the first bomb would go off in. And the second bomb. And the next dozen. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1957 "2025-02-13T23:36:36Z")
Meanwhile, the Secretary of Defense says the Navy sucks and won’t be in fighting shape for at least 7 years. > **[https://i.redd.it/ghue5edf7yie1.png](https://i.redd.it/ghue5edf7yie1.png)** ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1958 "2025-02-13T23:43:35Z")
Hahaahhah. Russia barely has a green water navy let alone a blue water one. Ukraine has been kicking Russia’s navy’s ass. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1959 "2025-02-14T00:28:41Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Basically, President Musk and Little Donnie Fail-Fail want to dismantle the Veterans Administration (VA). I’ll just note that I’m on record saying this: > [@Government shutdown December 2024 edition](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/government-shutdown-december-2024-edition/1011844/86): > > I’m just waiting for when they decide to cut the VA and yank back veterans’ benefits because taking promised entitlements away from a group of people trained to bust down doors and knock over disfavored foreign regimes [is always a good move](https://www.nps.gov/articles/the-1932-bonus-army.htm). > [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > I’m sure he can be stripped of his citizenship. And this: > [@A rational look at what Trump will/won't/can/can't do in his next term](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/a-rational-look-at-what-trump-will-wont-can-cant-do-in-his-next-term/1009876/81): > > You’re right that Trump will blame Musk and fire him (if he actually appoints him to anything to begin with) but I’m desperately hoping for a bigger blowout, maybe even trying to have Musk arrested and deported for staying in the country illegally and working on a student visa. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [February 14, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/1960 "2025-02-14T01:04:30Z")
Has anyone else noticed that all of Trump’s media ops lately have been taking place in the Oval Office with him seated the whole time? I’m beginning to think he’s having more trouble standing up or walking around and his handlers are trying to hide it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=97) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068.md?page=99)