# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/201 "2025-12-05T21:13:32Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > He surely knows how to kick the ball from the rough onto the green. We call that club a “foot mashie.” ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/202 "2025-12-05T21:16:11Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > And just to be clear, all this stuff about Columbia and tiny cars was said at some FIFA event? Not sure about Columbia, but the tiny cars was in a post on Untruth Social this morning. _‘I have just approved TINY CARS to be built in America,’ the president wrote on Truth Social Friday morning._ [Link to Daily Mail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15357179/trump-approves-tiny-cars-theyre-really-cute.html) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/203 "2025-12-05T21:22:21Z")
Trump is now fully in favor of tiny cars after seeing how many clowns can fit in one. He realized he could have a very simple way for his entire administration to travel. ---
**Author:** ![icon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c6cbf5/32.png) [@icon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/icon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/204 "2025-12-05T21:25:39Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > And just to be clear, all this stuff about Columbia > [@Railer13](#): > > Not sure about Columbia, Sorry to be pedant, but having been to both Columbia Maryland, and Colombia the country, the place he was referring to is spelled with an **O**! `//i\\` ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/205 "2025-12-05T21:29:41Z")
I honestly have no idea. Generally speaking, small cars don’t sell well, they don’t make much profit, and US automakers have responded by killing the ones they have over the last 20 years. I’m a big fan of small cars, but the problem with these Kei cars is 1) They won’t pass US crash regulations, and 2) they can’t really do highway speeds. The latter can be fixed with some gearing ratio changes, but they’re built for small city streets with low speeds and therefore lower risk of serious injury in crashes. And the reason they exist in the first place isn’t because Japanese consumers demand small cars, it’s because Japan taxes the hell out of cars and Kei cars get a much lower tax rate. The US should absolutely do the same thing (high taxes on large cars), and if they don’t, nobody will buy these. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/206 "2025-12-05T21:54:24Z")
If he signs a law to bring back the Nissan Cube, I’ll commit voter fraud to vote for him. It was a small car, but I, quite a large fellow, could fit in it. If North American small cars were more like that, I think they’d sell. How is it Japan can make small cars with large interiors, but Ford, et al can’t? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/207 "2025-12-05T22:02:03Z")
I drive a Chevy Spark and I love it. It’s small, in the sense that it can only fit two people in the back seat, and it has a small trunk. But it turns on a dime and fits easily in parking spots that a regular-sized car might be difficult to fit into. Plus, it has a reasonable range, can drive fast, handle hills; it’s a real car. Mileage is really good as well. Sadly, it was discontinued in 2022. 😢 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/208 "2025-12-05T22:02:18Z")
Same for the Kia Soul…and this is the last year they are being made. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/209 "2025-12-05T22:10:22Z")
Yeah, the Soul is similar, but still not quite as much room as the Cube. See also the Scion XB. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/210 "2025-12-05T22:12:40Z")
I considered a used Cube, but that wraparound window is an expensive and troublesome thing to replace. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/211 "2025-12-05T22:13:51Z")
It was also one of the features I liked! So quirky, but everyone else hated it. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/212 "2025-12-05T22:16:51Z")
Ford made the Transit Connect, which was very boxy. It was a class larger than the Cube, though. They also went through some shenanigans to import it at all (to try to make _some_ money on it) and it ended up costing them 1/3 of a billion dollars in fines or something. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/213 "2025-12-05T22:39:54Z")
The administration is moving to deny visas to those who have worked in online content moderation, fact-checking, and things of that nature. > **[Trump administration moves to deny visas to factcheckers and content moderators](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/05/trump-administration-us-visa-crackdown)** > > Action detailed in a state department memo directs officials to deny visas to any applicant engaging in ‘censorship’ ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/214 "2025-12-05T22:47:38Z")
True or False: Trump has ended 8 wars: ✅❌ ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/215 "2025-12-05T23:14:07Z")
Here is a fact check by the AP. > **[FACT FOCUS: With a truce in Israel, Trump now says he's ended eight wars. His...](https://apnews.com/article/middle-east-eight-wars-trump-ended-fact-check-ff41789ca242462c1c0ab65eb4ae8c7e)** > > As Israel and Hamas traded hostages and prisoners on Monday, President Donald Trump addressed the Israeli parliament, saying the region is finally at peace and claiming he has now ended eight wars in eight months. I’ll summarize the 8 “wars he ended”: **Israel and Hamas:** There is a shaky ceasefire and a hostage deal worked out, but the war is far from over. **Israel and Iran:** There was a brief, 12 day “hot war”, which he helped negotiate an end to, but their cold war is continuing and can flare up at any time. Nothing approaching peace has occurred there. **Egypt and Ethiopia:** There was no war to begin with. This was a disagreement over a dam on the Blue Nile River. The US tried to negotiate to ease tensions, but those talks stalled, and there is just as much tension as there was before. Again, there was no war, and Trump didn’t even really achieve any changes in the non-war. **India and Pakistan:** No war actually broke out, but it got close to a war starting before a ceasefire was reached. Pakistan gave Trump credit for helping, India claims that the US never even talked to India so it didn’t have anything to do with it. Regardless of the truth, again there wasn’t even a war to begin with. **Serbia and Kosovo:** Not only was there no war, there wasn’t even any kind of recent conflict. Rather, NATO has been keeping the peace in the area, so there was nothing for Trump to even do. This is a complete fabrication from a bullshitter. **Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of the Congo:** The war is still ongoing, and fighting has continued. Trump did help negotiate a peace deal between Rwanda and the Congo, but rebels are still fighting and weren’t part of that deal, so the war wasn’t ended. Even if it was, Trump couldn’t claim _he_ did it himself. Qatar has had the largest role in trying to bring peace, but those efforts have stalled. **Armenia and Azerbaijan:** I’ll give him credit for _almost_ ending a war. It’s pretty close. Both parties agreed to a ceasefire, and a peace deal is in the works, but not done yet. When they do sign the treaty, I think it’s fair for him to take credit for this one, but not quite yet. **Cambodia and Thailand:** There was a conflict, but it doesn’t seem to have escalated to a true war, and all Trump did was again help negotiate a ceasefire. Now, he did achieve that pretty much on his own, by threatening tariffs on both countries (so his tariffs have actually been used in a productive way, that’s a miracle). But claiming to have ended a war here is a huge exaggeration. So to sum up, he claims to have ended 8 wars, when in reality he is pretty close to ending just one. Which, hey, that’s an accomplishment, but it’s very far from what he’s claiming. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/216 "2025-12-05T23:43:51Z")
Watch out. Visas are one thing. Got a blue American Passport? Fact Checking? Risky. I actually want to give up my USA citizenship. I will never live in the USA again (for more than 90 days that the Golden Irish Passport conveys). Yet it costs $3,000, an interview at the embassy and an IRS audit. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/217 "2025-12-05T23:58:22Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > Ford made the Transit Connect, which was very boxy. It was a class larger than the Cube,… An Octahedron? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/218 "2025-12-06T00:44:28Z")
[You, too, can now join the felon’s war on journalism!](https://www.aol.com/articles/another-line-attack-white-house-141623802.html) > [@](#): > > NEW YORK (AP) — [President Donald Trump’s White House](https://apnews.com/hub/donald-trump) is taking on the role of media critic and asking for help from “everyday Americans." > > The White House launched [a web portal](https://www.whitehouse.gov/mediabias/) it says will spotlight bias on the part of news outlets, targeting the Boston Globe, CBS News, The Independent and The Washington Post in its first two “media offenders of the week.” > > It’s the latest wrinkle in the fight against what Trump, back in his first term, labeled “fake news.” The Republican president has taken outlets like [CBS News](https://apnews.com/article/trump-media-harris-minutes-paramount-6415042fe910ae60b432dd8c73ef61b2) and [The Wall Street Journal](https://apnews.com/article/trump-jeffrey-epstein-grand-jury-justice-department-ece8a837f9bd179771f801a765e242e4) to court over their coverage, is [fighting The Associated Press](https://apnews.com/article/ap-trump-media-access-pool-gulf-mexico-america-9a6667aae9743032c51c42c5e4f7dedc) in court over media access and has moved to dismantle government-run outlets like [Voice of America](https://apnews.com/article/voice-of-america-kari-lake-trump-media-5b5cd4dd706fcfb9e373ce385d6f659c). > > Trump has also engaged in personal attacks, last month alone saying “quiet, piggy,” to a female reporter who was questioning him on Air Force One, calling a reporter from The New York Times “ugly, both inside and out” and publicly telling an ABC News journalist she was ["a terrible reporter.”](https://apnews.com/article/media-trump-saudi-arabia-epstein-khashoggi-mbs-6cb0300433689c914250e475c4ae8483) The felon’s flack has an interesting ~~whine~~ take on the situation. > [@](#): > > “It’s honestly overwhelming to keep up with it all and to constantly have to defend against this fake news and these attacks,” said press secretary Karoline Leavitt, who called the new web portal an attempt to hold journalists accountable. > > After its debut, the White House asked for volunteers to submit their own examples of media bias. “So-called ‘journalists’ have made it impossible to identify every false or misleading story, which is why help from the American people is essential,” Trump’s press office said. [I’m fairly certain I prediced this one. It took no ESP whatsoever.](https://www.aol.com/trump-wins-inaugural-fifa-peace-173232905.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON — It wasn’t the one he had in mind but [Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/) did finally take home a peace prize. > > Trump was the winner of the inaugural “FIFA Peace Prize,” which the soccer organization awarded during its [World Cup draw](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/soccer/worldcup/2025/12/05/world-cup-draw-2026-groups-fifa-time-results-highlights/87617559007/) in Washington. > > “This is truly one of the great honors of my life,” Trump said as he accepted the award. > > The award winner was hardly a surprise. Trump has been the assumed victor since FIFA [announced the creation](https://inside.fifa.com/organisation/media-releases/peace-prize-award-football-unites-the-world-infantino) of the prize a month ago that it said would “reward individuals who have taken exceptional and extraordinary actions for peace.” Let’s be clear here. The first awardee for this “peace prize” is someone who is currently, actively, and proudly committing crimes against humanity. [The felon’s making being a refugee in America untenable.](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-administration-expand-travel-ban-171802945.html) This bit of news is buried all the way at the bottom of the article. > [@](#): > > On Thursday, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services announced it was reducing the time period that work permits are valid for certain applicants such as refugees and people with asylum so they have to reapply more often and go through vetting more frequently. [Killer Kennedy really doesn’t want babies to live.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-vaccine-advisers-not-babies-153428052.html) > [@](#): > > NEW YORK (AP) — A federal vaccine advisory committee voted on Friday to end the longstanding recommendation that all U.S. babies get the hepatitis B vaccine on the day they’re born. > > A loud chorus of medical and public health leaders decried the actions of the panel, whose current members were all appointed by U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — a leading anti-vaccine activist before this year becoming the nation’s top health official. > > “This is the group that can’t shoot straight,” said Dr. William Schaffner, a Vanderbilt University vaccine expert who for decades has been involved with ACIP and its workgroups. > > Several medical societies and state health departments said they would continue to recommend them. While people may have to check their policies, the trade group AHIP, formerly known as America’s Health Insurance Plans, said its members still will cover the birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine. > > For decades, the government has advised that all babies be vaccinated against the liver infection right after birth. The shots are widely considered to be a public health success for preventing thousands of illnesses. > > But Kennedy’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices decided to recommend the birth dose only for babies whose mothers test positive, and in cases where the mom wasn’t tested. [And the killings will continue until who the fuck knows what improves.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pentagon-announces-killed-four-men-002159901.html) > [@](#): > > The Pentagon announced on Thursday that the US military had conducted another deadly strike on a boat suspected of carrying illegal narcotics, killing four men in the eastern Pacific, as questions mount over the legality of the attacks. > > Video of the new strike was [posted on social media](https://x.com/Southcom/status/1996726797086457886) by the US southern command, based in Florida, with a statement saying that, at the direction of [Pete Hegseth](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/pete-hegseth), the defense secretary, “Joint Task Force Southern Spear conducted a lethal kinetic strike on a vessel in international waters operated by a Designated Terrorist Organization”. > > “Intelligence confirmed that the vessel was carrying illicit narcotics and transiting along a known narco-trafficking route in the Eastern Pacific. Four male narco-terrorists aboard the vessel were killed,” the statement added. [But, hey, it’s all cool because they’re headed to America, right? Right?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/alleged-drug-boat-u-bombed-234016719.html) > [@](#): > > The alleged drug boat hit with two American airstrikes in September was reportedly not bound for the United States. > > Admiral **[Frank Bradley](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/know-admiral-frank-bradley-drawing-170600602.html),** who oversaw the controversial double-tap bombing, told lawmakers on Thursday that the boat was set to meet and transfer drugs to a larger vessel, which the military was unable to locate. This second vessel was heading for the South American country of Suriname, two sources with direct knowledge of Bradley’s remarks [told](https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/05/politics/suriname-boat-strike-bradley) CNN. I mentioned before I’m not willing to believe anything from the felon and his fools about these murders absent a video backing up what they assert. [I’ve no problem trusting a realiable reporter from Congress, though.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/himes-seeing-boat-strike-video-160421530.html) > [@](#): > > Rep. Jim Himes (D-Conn.), the senior Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said Thursday that he is “deeply” troubled by the Pentagon’s double-tap strikes on suspected drug runners in the Caribbean, saying it’s clear U.S. forces targeted survivors who posed no threat to American security. > > Himes was among the handful of lawmakers who were briefed Thursday by Navy Adm. Frank Bradley, the commander of the Sept. 2 mission, in a secure location on Capitol Hill. He said the lawmakers were shown video footage of the operation. > > “I reviewed the video, and it’s deeply, deeply troubling,” Himes said. “The fact is that we killed two people who were in deep distress and had neither the means nor obviously the intent to continue their mission.” ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/219 "2025-12-06T01:17:30Z")
The Trump regime is moving to eliminate _rape_ protections for trans, intersex, and gender non-conforming people in jails and prisons. Fuck this administration. > **[Trump administration plans to end prison rape protections for trans and...](https://prismreports.org/2025/12/04/prison-rape-elimination-act-trans-intersex-trump-doj/)** > > A Department of Justice memo says certain standards under the Prison Rape Elimination Act do not align with Trump’s executive order ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/220 "2025-12-06T01:21:26Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > the boat was set to meet and transfer drugs to a larger vessel, which the military was unable to locate. One of the most powerful warships on the planet can locate, target, and kill a small motorboat… but it can’t find the mothership? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=12)