# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/281 "2025-12-08T00:50:06Z")
Not to defend Gene and Paul, but I saw the photo from yesterday at the Oval Office and Peter appeared to be present as well. ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/282 "2025-12-08T00:50:35Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > And by KISS, they mean Gene and Paul. I like KISS. But I don’t think I can enjoy them after this. Their songs only fill me with sad thoughts anymore. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/283 "2025-12-08T00:51:08Z")
Don’t ever prove me wrong. I hate to be proven wrong. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/284 "2025-12-08T00:55:14Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > I like KISS. But I don’t think I can enjoy them after this. I like George Strait, though I haven’t listened much to his music in recent years. My general assumption is that Trump is giving these honors to loyalists (or those willing to give him money), and the thought that Strait is now a MAGA made me sad. But, some googling indicates that Strait has generally kept his politics to himself, though, OTOH, it shouldn’t surprise me if a 73-year-old white man from Texas is a Trump supporter. ---
**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/285 "2025-12-08T01:02:52Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Trump is giving these honors to loyalists (or those willing to give him money), and the thought that Strait is now a MAGA made me sad. I think Trump’s thinking was that he was going to give the awards to people who would, at the very least, _show up._ Donnie didn’t want to suffer the ignominy of having nominees who declined the honors solely due to his presence. I don’t know if Michael Crawford, for example, is a super-MAGA; he was probably just happy that he was honored by anybody at his age. It should be noted that Trump was going to give an honor to Tom Cruise, but Cruise declined because of “scheduling conflicts” (you more or less have to accept the honors in person). Who knows what the real story is there. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/286 "2025-12-08T02:00:48Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > It should be noted that Trump was going to give an honor to Tom Cruise, but Cruise declined because of “scheduling conflicts” (you more or less have to accept the honors in person). Who knows what the real story is there. Cruise couldn’t make it because he had to clean his toenails that night. Or was it that he had to wash his hair? ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/287 "2025-12-08T02:01:36Z")
Hey, at least Gloria Gaynor deserves it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/288 "2025-12-08T02:09:47Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > My general assumption is that Trump is giving these honors to loyalists (or those willing to give him money), and the thought that Strait is now a MAGA made me sad. In this case, it seems he’s giving awards to musicians that he personally likes. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/289 "2025-12-08T02:10:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > In this case, it seems he’s giving awards to musicians that he personally likes. I guess he saved the Village People for the 2026 honors. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/290 "2025-12-08T02:30:12Z")
The guy who sang Phantom of the Opera is Michael Crawford, and he is(was?) a pretty big deal in UK. Which makes me wonder how Trump even knows about him, and _really_ makes me wonder why he’d even want to accept. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/291 "2025-12-08T02:31:48Z")
Crawford was probably just happy that _someone_ remembered him. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/292 "2025-12-08T02:49:35Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > Which makes me wonder how Trump even knows about him, and _really_ makes me wonder why he’d even want to accept. Trump likes Phantom of the Opera. > ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/293 "2025-12-08T03:04:42Z")
The thing that surprised me most about these recipients is that, other than KISS, none of them would have really raised too many eyebrows in years past. I honestly thought Trump was going to choose a bunch of true hacks like Kid Rock, Dean Cain, Vince McMahon or the people who made that awful Trump Prophecy movie a few years back. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/294 "2025-12-08T04:51:12Z")
Getting back to the so-called peace prize the felon just got gifted to stop his tantrum, [here are some great memes in response.](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/trumps-peace-prize-participation-medal-203221615.html) My personal favorite is #10. > [@](#): > > You rarely see a photo that makes someone’s face look like a Picasso painting. A very close second is #15, a damning one about the traitor’s party. > [@](#): > > The political party that has spent a generation railing against participation trophies is now led by a man who habitually demands participation trophies. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/295 "2025-12-08T04:54:29Z")
KISS? Kennedy Center? I’ve seen enough to know I’ve seen too much. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/296 "2025-12-08T05:05:06Z")
It looks like [Kelsey Grammar was jonesing for the award from the felon.](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2025/12/07/kelsey-grammer-donald-trump-support/87657355007/) > [@](#): > > [Kelsey Grammer](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2025/10/27/kelsey-grammar-baby-christopher-born/86938014007/) is giving three cheers for [President Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/). > > The “[Frasier](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2023/10/12/frasier-new-reboot-review-2023/71129064007/)” star, 70, praised Trump in an [interview with Fox News Digital](https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/kelsey-grammer-calls-trump-one-greatest-presidents-weve-ever-had-kennedy-center-honors) on Saturday, Dec. 6, ahead of the [Kennedy Center Honors](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/12/07/trump-kennedy-center-honors-how-to-watch-medallions/87655932007/) dinner in Washington. D.C. “I think he’s extraordinary,” Grammer told Fox. “He’s one of the greatest presidents we’ve ever had. Maybe the greatest. There are some things he still wants to get done, and I think that’s terrific, but there was a big hill to climb.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/297 "2025-12-08T05:30:38Z")
Grammer’s been like that for awhile. He campaigned for Michelle Bachmann (remember her?) in 2012. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/298 "2025-12-08T06:57:29Z")
> [@Monty quoting Grammer](#): > > but there was a big hill to climb You don’t destroy a country as big as the US in a year. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/299 "2025-12-08T08:16:53Z")
> [@SwissMan](#): > > It should be noted that Trump was going to give an honor to Tom Cruise, but Cruise declined because of “scheduling conflicts” (you more or less have to accept the honors in person). Who knows what the real story is there. Cruise is the definition of “I may be crazy, but I’m not stupid”. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2025, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/300 "2025-12-08T08:54:22Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Cruise is the definition of “I may be crazy, but I’m not stupid” _Tom Cruise is Tom Cruise crazy Just be glad it’s him not you If you had Tom Cruise’s troubles You might be Tom Cruise crazy too You’d flash your big white shiny smile You’d buy expensive shoes But you’d be the only man on Earth who couldn’t enjoy Tom Cruise_ [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/FVEzaBzVve8/maxresdefault.jpg "Tom Cruise Crazy") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVEzaBzVve8) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=16)