# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/401 "2025-12-10T14:46:41Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > Allegedly. Not going to lie, you almost got me with that one. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/402 "2025-12-10T14:47:48Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > not a coincidence at all in terms of how authoritarian governance tends to result in capricious decision making. Anything not forbidden is mandatory. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/403 "2025-12-10T15:02:39Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > Just my luck, I insult someone’s cognitive abilities with a typo as the leadoff. Gaudere’s Law. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/404 "2025-12-10T15:18:05Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > > [@Railer13](#): > > > > According to the federal government, yes. Historically low numbers. > > Except it’s run by anti-science liars, so we can’t trust their claims at all. Likely they themselves don’t even know and they are just making things up without bothering to even collect the data, even assuming that the people who are supposed to collect the data haven’t been fired. Why do I have Eric Blair invading my head so often these days? > Statistics were just as much a fantasy in their original version as in their rectified version. A great deal of the time you were expected to make them up out of your head. For example, the Ministry of Plenty’s forecast had estimated the output of boots for the quarter at one-hundred-and-forty-five million pairs. The actual output was given as sixty-two millions. Winston, however, in rewriting the forecast, marked the figure down to fifty-seven millions, so as to allow for the usual claim that the quota had been overfulfilled. In any case, sixty-two millions was no nearer the truth than fifty-seven millions, or than one-hundred-and-forty-five millions. Very likely no boots had been produced at all. Likelier still, nobody knew how many had been produced, much less cared. All one knew was that every quarter astronomical numbers of boots were produced on paper, while perhaps half the population of Oceania went barefoot. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/405 "2025-12-10T15:23:13Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Except it’s run by anti-science liars, so we can’t trust their claims at all. I make no claims about the veracity of the data. But my gut tells me that crossings, both legal and illegal, are way down. YMMV, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/406 "2025-12-10T15:30:05Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/09/us/politics/rubio-state-department-font.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/09/us/politics/rubio-state-department-font.html) Why is Sans Serif ‘wasteful’? ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/407 "2025-12-10T15:34:46Z")
“Wasteful” is one of those anti-DEI buzzwords. DEI efforts are useless, and therefore any money spent on DEI is money wasted. And since sans serif fonts are easier to read for people with visual disabilities, Calibri is clearly a woke, DEI font which must be disparaged and shunned. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/408 "2025-12-10T16:11:04Z")
I keep thinking back to the _Suits_ episode where Louis Litt chews out a first-year associate for submitting a brief that has “Times New Roman’s stupid little feet walking all across the page.” ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/409 "2025-12-10T16:11:47Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Why is Sans Serif ‘wasteful’? Everyone is complaining because there are no illegals left to pick vegetables and such. All those serifs should be put to work in the fields, picking vegetables, and even cotton, too! Serifdom is a mainstay of Western Civilization! Oh, wait… [![](https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/16/56/89/43/360_F_1656894399_01Im4uw9ffKQhPZFGYNrDNOfREaY6BiZ.jpg) ](https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/16/56/89/43/360_F_1656894399_01Im4uw9ffKQhPZFGYNrDNOfREaY6BiZ.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/410 "2025-12-10T16:18:33Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Serifdom is a mainstay of Western Civilization! That all changed after the [Black(letter)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter) Death in the Middle Ages. Things got very Gothic. ---
**Author:** ![excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e8c25b/32.png) [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/excavating_for_a_mind)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/411 "2025-12-10T17:01:35Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Apparently typeface was too woke? Poor Little Marco, so desperate for a drop of Daddy Trump’s approval. What a tool. > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/09/us/politics/rubio-state-department-font.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/09/us/politics/rubio-state-department-font.html) From the link: > Then-Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken ordered [the 2023 typeface shift](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/19/us/politics/state-department-times-new-roman-calibri.html) on the recommendation of the State Department’s office of diversity and inclusion, which Mr. Rubio has since abolished. Which, of course, is why it had to be changed. Otherwise, how could they continue to bang the “End DEI Now!” drum. Of course, if the people are ever able to wrest the levers of government from the Oligarch billionaires who are destroying democracy, we will have to create a Cabinet level position for the Department or Diversity, Equality, and Inclusion. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/412 "2025-12-10T17:09:48Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Why is Sans Serif ‘wasteful’? Think of all the precious milliseconds spent figuring out whether “AI” means artificial intelligence or some guy’s name! ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/413 "2025-12-10T17:12:41Z")
> [@excavating\_for\_a\_mind](#): > > we will have to create a Cabinet level position for the Department or Diversity, Equality, and Inclusion. And the Secretary of Fonts. Every school will have a mandatory Font Club. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/414 "2025-12-10T17:25:20Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Things got very Gothic. 👏 Bravo. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/415 "2025-12-10T17:33:32Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > One question about the clusterfucker in chief: he keeps claiming that the dangerous southern border is closed. Is there any actual truth to that? Have crossings even slowed down? In which direction? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/416 "2025-12-10T17:34:58Z")
_Do NOT talk about Font Club!_ ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/417 "2025-12-10T17:41:56Z")
The Clusterfont continues… [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/amplify_video_thumb/829061552884051968/img/dZCODSXhjSe8QAh6.jpg) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/amplify_video_thumb/829061552884051968/img/dZCODSXhjSe8QAh6.jpg) > **[https://i.redd.it/x93hzz9b6tld1.gif](https://i.redd.it/x93hzz9b6tld1.gif)** ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/418 "2025-12-10T17:54:17Z")
[Feds bring woman to US to face charges, then say she’s here illegally](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/feds-bring-woman-to-us-to-face-charges-then-say-she-s-here-illegally/ar-AA1S4hnV) > Federal prosecutors spent over a year working to extradite a Belarusian woman accused of smuggling more than $2 million in sensitive U.S. aviation equipment into Russia as it waged war on Ukraine. > > But the case could fall apart because the defendant, Yana Leonova, is now at risk of being deported before going to trial. > > … > > “Indeed, it is both preposterous and offensive for the government to bring someone into the United States against their will and then turn around and seek ICE detention because that person is here ‘illegally,’” U.S. Magistrate Judge Zia M. Faruqui said in the written order. “The government needs to decide what its priorities are: ginning up deportation stats or prosecuting alleged criminals.” ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/419 "2025-12-10T18:48:17Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > U.S. Magistrate Judge Zia M. Faruqui Sounds like one of those _diverse_ names. They can ignore her. /s ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/420 "2025-12-10T19:02:18Z")
I had to share this JD Vance gem. It’s a 3-fer: 1. Whether he’s joking or not, he’s openly shitting on the first amendment, 2. He’s showing himself to be an out-of-touch idiot, and 3. He’s a really crappy dad (which should surprise no one). > **[JD Vance Rails About Viral Trend After Son Goes ‘Absolutely Nuts’ In Church](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jd-vance-viral-trend_n_69396acbe4b0fb6244b14860)** > > The vice president riffed on making a "narrow exception to the First Amendment." [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=22)