# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 213
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4241 "2026-04-08T18:16:14Z")
> [@Ellecram](#): > > Well that didn’t even last a day Which is utterly unsurprising. Not even getting into the history of such ceasefires never lasting, it was clear in reading about this one that Trump and Iran were talking past each other. They never actually “agreed” on any terms, Trump just acted like they did, because that’s what he always does. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4242 "2026-04-08T18:26:26Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > They never actually “agreed” on any terms, Trump just acted like they did, because that’s what he always does. Yep. And Iran was ready for this bullshit tactic, when they released their “10 point plan” ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4243 "2026-04-08T19:47:48Z")
> [@from CalMeacham's link](#): > > Iran, the U.S. and Israel had agreed to an “immediate ceasefire everywhere [including Lebanon and elsewhere](https://x.com/CMShehbaz/status/2041665043423752651) I haven’t seen anything that indicates that Bibi agreed to any of this. He must be very pissed off with this capitulation. He was right that he could manipulate Trump to start the war but very wrong that he was special and Trump wouldn’t fuck him over if there was money to be made. Don’t these people ever learn? What is it about grasping for power that causes people to be blind to obvious lessons learned by others? ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4244 "2026-04-08T19:50:10Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > I haven’t seen anything that indicates that Bibi agreed to any of this. He didn’t, Israel is still attacking Lebanon and in response Iran has blocked the Strait again, all while Trump says the cease fire did not include Lebanon and Iran says it does. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4245 "2026-04-08T20:06:36Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > all while Trump says the cease fire did not include Lebanon and Iran says it does. I’ve said it before, Trump fundamentally doesn’t know how to negotiate in a situation where he can’t just unilaterally walk away from the whole mess. When dealing with an entity like a country, he doesn’t understand that they don’t have to just accept the terms he offers, and that they can have terms of their own, and that he has to deal with that. He can’t just walk away, or he loses the war. He’s got to do something. Give them what they want, convince them to want something different, or keep fighting the war. Trump is of course incapable of any of those three options. He hates giving anyone anything, he’s too stupid to be able to convince anyone who won’t just believe his lies, and he’s clearly desperate to get out of this unpopular war before it completely tanks the Republicans. So, chaos and quagmire it is. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4246 "2026-04-08T20:09:19Z")
Looks like Trump is finally getting his Vietnam experience. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4247 "2026-04-08T20:26:08Z")
> [@solost](#): > > > [@Frodo](#): > > > > Grown men, tears, Sir, etc… > > 7 former Presidents approve! 7 former Presidents wish they’d done the same! > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > … The US is being run by a decrepit narcissist, slipping further into dementia every day … I forget where I saw it, but one of the best descriptions of the Orange Peril I’ve come across is someone who’s lost all cognitive function and is down to amygdala and brain stem. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4248 "2026-04-08T21:56:43Z")
Yeah, I’m getting more comfortable with my theory. > [@solost](#): > > How can there be such differing interpretations?!? 🤔 They haven’t gotten their marching orders yet. > [@JRDelirious](#): > > Honestly, I’m at the point I would want various info outlets to _let him believe he got a win_ for a couple of days so he cools off and doesn’t keep trying to prove something. Exactly. If his delusions are motivating his actions, it’s better that they also delay them. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4249 "2026-04-08T22:01:43Z")
Trump admin tells the Vatican - do as we say or we’ll start our own Roman Catholic Church. > **[Trump Goon Gives Vatican ‘Bitter Lecture’ Amid Growing Rift](https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-official-gives-vatican-bitter-lecture-amid-growing-rift/)** > > The Pope’s ambassador to the U.S. was given a jaw-dropping telling to by a minor Trump functionary. > Vatican officials briefed on the meeting tell [The Free Press](https://archive.is/o/ayAJB/https://www.thefp.com/p/why-the-vatican-and-the-white-house) that the Pentagon warned Cardinal Christophe Pierre in January that the United States has the military power to do “whatever it wants” and that Pope Leo, the first American-born pontiff, “better take its side.” > > The site writes that “as tensions escalated,” one U.S. official “went so far as to invoke the Avignon Papacy, the period in the 1300s when the French Crown leveraged its military power to dominate the papal authority.” ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4250 "2026-04-08T22:17:36Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > As you point out, we already know he’s a rapist and a con man, and we already know that he is a lying sack of shit. He doesn’t care about any of that. So I don’t think it’s any of those things. > > In his mind, excuse the expression, what is the worst thing that the world could find out about him? Think hard… > > That’s right: that he is a **loser**. > > Okay, please excuse the disgusting scenario I’m about to present. Your scenario is quite plausible, and yes, it would be more humiliating to Donald than any other sort of revelation could be. Even if the truth isn’t _exactly_ like the scenario, it’s clearly something just as horrifying to Donald, who will gladly commit any and all war crimes to keep the Epstein Thing out of the news. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4251 "2026-04-08T22:24:01Z")
Nobody: JD Vance: My bitch wife is not allowed to skydive > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3miz2ypzbar2a)** > > JD Vance: "You know what? My wife has the right to skydive, but she doesn't jump out of an airplane because she and I have an agreement she's not gonna do that, because I don't want my wife jumping out of an airplane." ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4252 "2026-04-08T22:25:18Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump admin tells the Vatican - do as we say or we’ll start our own Roman Catholic Church. I immediately thought of the “with blackjack and hookers” joke, but then realized that’s exactly what Trump _would_ do if he made his own Catholic Church. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4253 "2026-04-08T22:27:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump admin tells the Vatican - do as we say or we’ll start our own Roman Catholic Church. It worked for England! ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4254 "2026-04-08T22:32:18Z")
Trump wouldn’t be starting the church - he’d get some sedevacantist folks to do it for him. And since they’re all in on the Latin Mass, they’d have hard time advocating for any gambling other than a church bingo night. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4255 "2026-04-08T22:33:09Z")
He’s been doing it for years, or having toadies do it for him, depending on how you see it: [![](https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/112077-trump-ai-pope-vert-thumb-dirty.png?c=9x16) ](https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/112077-trump-ai-pope-vert-thumb-dirty.png?c=9x16) And look at his BIG hands! That is important to him. I’m not sure whether the “Pope” is wearing a wedding ring. Wouldn’t put it past him, the moron. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4256 "2026-04-08T23:17:17Z")
“In fact, forget the church… and the blackjack” ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4257 "2026-04-08T23:23:57Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Just wait until we find out how indifferent Republicans will be to either of those. Don’t say that… there are thoughts and prayers. ---
**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4258 "2026-04-08T23:26:09Z")
I am in no way religious, but I am quickly becoming more sympathetic to the Trump=Antichrist comparisons. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2026, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4259 "2026-04-08T23:31:24Z")
“The Antichrist did not exist, so the Republicans had to invent him.” ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2026, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4260 "2026-04-09T00:01:19Z")
I think Trump’s weapon vis a vis the Vatican is **tax breaks for churches**. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=212) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=214)