# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 222
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4421 "2026-04-11T22:03:45Z")
Mad King Donald has emerged from the oxygen tent in which he sleeps nude because he believes it gives him sexual powers, only to find that even Fox News is now telling him he’s full of shit. > > ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4422 "2026-04-11T23:28:33Z")
> FOX: President Trump said their leaders are all dead but a couple of their leaders are actually in Pakistan right now meeting with his Vice President. It would be so Trumpian for Trump to have those leaders drone striked and not worry about blowing up his Vice President. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2026, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4423 "2026-04-11T23:39:33Z")
Posted reply here, as I did not want to hijack the current Iran events thread in Politics: > [@United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/united-states-and-israel-are-bombing-iran-for-current-ongoing-events-past-future-have-specific-threads/1028071/1283): > > We’re going to attack them again in the middle of negotiations. It really gives me a warm feeling of trust, now that Canada and the US are in the middle of renegotiating the free trade treaty (USMCA that came into effect in 2020). No wait. I don’t trust the US one little tiny bit. I don’t think they will negotiate in good faith, nor do I think they will actually honour any agreement once made. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4424 "2026-04-12T01:22:32Z")
> [@Odesio](#): > > It’s hard to find the good in this situation, but I’m proud there are numerous members of our armed forces who are so concerned over ethical and moral concerns that retention is a problem. But surely the number of soldiers leaving for ethics concerns are dwarfed by the number willing to join now the the military has given up “wokeness” [/s] > [@Frodo](#): > > but people seem to think that wars are decided by counting the number of casualties and buildings destroyed by each country at the end of a given period of time and awarding the war as won to the country that has better numbers. Unfortunately chief among those who hold this delusion is our Sec. of ~~Defense~~ War, who has explicitly embraced “lethality” as the sole measure of military effectiveness. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4425 "2026-04-12T02:57:41Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > But surely the number of soldiers leaving for ethics concerns are dwarfed by the number willing to join now the the military has given up “wokeness” [/s] Correct. As stated in the original article I quoted: [https://www.npr.org/2026/04/10/nx-s1-5771612/military-iran-war-trump-conscientious-objector/](https://www.npr.org/2026/04/10/nx-s1-5771612/military-iran-war-trump-conscientious-objector/) > [@ThelmaLou](#): > > > Those numbers are a drop in the bucket when compared with the more than 1.3 million people enlisted. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4426 "2026-04-12T04:18:31Z")
[Time to tacky up another DC edifice!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-wants-cover-white-house-204653998.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump privately advocated for painting an ornate federal office building next to the White House with a “magic paint with silicate,” CNN has learned. But ahead of a key vote on [exterior changes](https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/16/politics/trump-sued-over-plans-to-paint-eisenhower-building-in-washington?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) to the sprawling Gilded Age structure, a panel of experts is warning the so-called magic paint could be incompatible with the Eisenhower Executive Office Building’s granite exterior. > > Trump, who has spent significant time during his second term shaping the White House and Washington to [his aesthetic taste](https://www.cnn.com/politics/triumphal-arch-new-ballroom-trump-dc-changes-vis?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo), is proposing painting the ornate office building a bright white. > > The Commission of Fine Arts, which oversees changes to federal buildings and has been stacked with Trump loyalists, on Thursday will review and weigh in on the plans for the first time. > > Renderings submitted to the commission [show two potential options](https://www.cfa.gov/system/files/meeting-materials/3-CFA-16APR26-3-EOP_GSA_EEOB-pres.pdf): one with the entire structure painted white and one that paints the structure white but leaves the building’s exposed basement and sub-basement in its original granite. > > The existing structure “has been largely neglected since its construction in the late 1800s,” the White House said in materials sent to the commission ahead of Thursday’s meeting, pointing to staining on the granite, abrasions and cracks from “years of poor or non-existent exterior maintenance, and general disregard.” > > But a pair of preservationist groups challenging the president’s changes is warning that moving forward with the painting project is illegal — and that the paint won’t actually work on the EEOB’s surface. [The war criminal-in-chief is announcing that he’s going to announce his next war.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-looks-ahead-next-military-160842166.html) > [@](#): > > Shortly before midnight on Wednesday, amid signs of strain for the ceasefire in Iran that was announced a day earlier, [Donald Trump](https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-chaos-and-dysfunction-reign-in-odd-back-to-back-incidents) published the latest in a series of curious items to his social media platform. The apparent point of the presidential message was to warn of the potential of reviving the [paused war](https://www.ms.now/liveblog/iran-war-news-today-trump-us-april-10-2026). > > “All U.S. Ships, Aircraft, and Military Personnel, with additional Ammunition, Weaponry, and anything else that is appropriate and necessary for the lethal prosecution and destruction of an already substantially degraded Enemy, will remain in place in, and around, Iran, until such time as the REAL AGREEMENT reached is fully complied with,” [he wrote](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116372694697146221), adding that if there is no deal, “then the ‘Shootin’ Starts,’ bigger, and better, and stronger than anyone has ever seen before.” > > But it was the conclusion of his online statement that stood out. > > “[O]ur great Military is Loading Up and Resting, looking forward, actually, to its next Conquest,” Trump wrote. [Bloodthirsty sod, ain’t he?](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-throws-vance-under-bus-133753612.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump has undermined his vice president while he is in the middle of [peace talks](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/jd-vance-issues-stark-warning-165400179.html) with a Truth Social rant invoking Allah to brag about killing Iranian leaders. > > “The Fake News Media has lost total credibility, not that they had any to begin with,” Trump, 79, wrote in a Saturday morning rant. “Because of their massive Trump Derangement Syndrome (Sometimes referred to as TDS!), they love saying that Iran is ‘winning’ when, in fact, everyone knows that they are LOSING, and LOSING BIG!” > > Trump went on to claim that Iran’s “Navy is gone, their Air Force is gone, their Anti Aircraft apparatus is nonexistent, Radar is dead, their Missile and Drone Factories have been largely obliterated along with the Missiles and Drones themselves and, most importantly, their longtime ‘Leaders’ are no longer with us, praise be to Allah!” That post also included another chorus of _Who’s Under the Boss in the Morning_, but by omission. > [@](#): > > The president’s post came just as talks between Iranian and U.S. officials began in Islamabad, Pakistan, on Saturday. Trump’s post made no mention of the negotiations that Vice President JD Vance is spearheading along with special envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner. Well, by omissin and a bit of setting up Vance for failure by posting that nonsense at the time he did. Seriously, is the reason the felon sends all of his posts in the wee hours because he’s in the loo and that’s the only time his handlers can’t stop him? [The felon’s wasting resources while lying about wasting resources and citing a law that doesn’t exist.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/exclusive-ice-launches-effort-uncover-185533300.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON, April 10 (Reuters) - President Donald Trump’s administration plans to crack down on networks it says help pregnant women lie on visa applications in order to secure U.S. citizenship for their U.S.-born babies, an issue that Trump has highlighted to justify his attempts ‌to restrict birthright citizenship. > > In an internal email sent Thursday and reviewed by Reuters, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement ordered investigative agents around the country to focus on a ‌new “Birth Tourism Initiative.” The operation will seek to root out networks that help pregnant foreign nationals come to the U.S. to give birth so their children can receive citizenship, it said. > > Trump, a Republican, has kicked off an aggressive ​push to reduce both legal and illegal immigration after taking office in January 2025. His administration has used the threat of birth tourism as a rationale for attempting to restrict the practice of [granting automatic citizenship](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pregnant-immigrants-warily-eye-us-supreme-court-birthright-citizenship-case-2025-05-14)to children born on U.S. soil. > > “Uninhibited birth tourism poses a tremendous cost to taxpayers and threatens our national security,” White House spokeswoman Anna Kelly said in a statement, adding that most nations do not provide automatic citizenship at birth. > > The U.S. Department of Homeland Security declined to comment on any ongoing investigations, but said it was aware that some networks facilitate travel to the ‌U.S. for birth tourism. > > “While the act of giving birth in the ⁠United States is not unlawful, DHS remains focused on identifying and addressing potential violations of federal law associated with these activities,” a spokesperson said. > > No U.S. law outright bars birth tourism, but a [federal regulation implemented](https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/01/24/2020-01218/visas-temporary-visitors-for-business-or-pleasure)in 2020 during Trump’s first term prohibits using temporary tourist and business visas ⁠for the primary purpose of obtaining U.S. citizenship for a newborn. People who engage in birth tourism schemes could be prosecuted for fraud or other related crimes. The timing is suspicious. (Same link.) > [@](#): > > Trump issued an executive order on his first day in office that instructed U.S. agencies not to recognize the citizenship of children born in the U.S. if neither parent is an American citizen or legal permanent resident, a sharp break from legal precedent spanning more than a century. > > Multiple federal judges blocked the order, [sending the case to the Supreme Court](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-supreme-court-considers-trumps-effort-limit-birthright-citizenship-2026-04-01/) for oral arguments last week. U.S. Solicitor General D. John Sauer, representing the Trump administration, said automatic citizenship had encouraged “a sprawling ‌industry of birth tourism.” [Trump University. It’s now offering graduate studies scholarships to select dictators.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-vows-boost-hungary-economy-222543196.html) > [@](#): > > US President Donald Trump made a late intervention in Hungary’s bitter election campaign on Friday, as nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orban battles for votes against a pro-European opponent leading him in polls. > > Trump vowed to bring US “economic might” to Hungary if Orban’s party secures a victory over his arch-rival Peter Magyar in Sunday’s election. > > The comments added late drama to the campaign finale that saw Orban and Magyar trade accusations of dirty dealing. > > Orban, who has run Hungary for 16 years and is close to Trump and Russia’s President Vladimir Putin, faces an unprecedented challenge with opinion polls putting Magyar’s conservative Tisza party well ahead. > > “We are excited to invest in the future prosperity that will be generated by Orban’s continued leadership,” Trump said on social media. > > Trump’s administration has embraced the promotion of hard-right forces in Europe – casting migration and “woke” values as a “civilisational” threat to the continent. > > Orban has locked horns with the European Union leadership, which accuses him of quashing dissent and eroding the rule of law, and has frozen billions of euros in funding. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4427 "2026-04-12T18:58:10Z")
So I guess we’re pirates now. > **[Stunning Trump decree orders US Navy to target all ships complying with Iran...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-iran-2676703474/)** > > President Donald Trump issued a major directive Sunday to the U.S. Navy to target vessels of any nation that comply with Iran’s demand for tolls to transit the Strait of Hormuz.“I have instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in... > “I have instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran,” Trump [wrote](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116391828823240211) on his social media platform Truth Social. “No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas.” > > “Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz,” Trump wrote. > > “At some point, we will reach an ‘ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO IN, ALL BEING ALLOWED TO GO OUT’ basis, but Iran has not allowed that to happen by merely saying, ‘There may be a mine out there somewhere,’ that nobody knows about but them. THIS IS WORLD EXTORTION, and Leaders of Countries, especially the United States of America, will never be extorted.” ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4428 "2026-04-12T19:06:18Z")
I’m all out of emojis to express how I feel about these recent developments. May the gods help us all. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4429 "2026-04-12T19:13:06Z")
Didn’t he just tell us that the United States would collect tolls jointly with Iran? ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4430 "2026-04-12T19:31:35Z")
I don’t know how you say “fuck that” in Farsi but I imagine that was the Iranian response to that idea. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4431 "2026-04-12T19:57:10Z")
I believe it’s, “death to America” which is really the middle finger. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4432 "2026-04-12T20:55:32Z")
In the past month, without any Congressional approval, he’s spent roughly as much on the Iran war as the annual budget of the United States Agency for International Development, which actually worked to improve things for people all over the world, saving thousands of lives, rather than killing thousands and destroying billions in civilian infrastructure. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4433 "2026-04-12T21:20:00Z")
You say that like it’s a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4434 "2026-04-12T21:23:52Z")
God forbid we spend a _tiny_ portion of the federal budget on food, housing, medicine and the environment for the benefit of people in other countries. They might actually grow to like America and we can’t have that. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4435 "2026-04-12T22:00:22Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > God forbid we spend a _tiny_ portion of the federal budget on food, housing, medicine and the environment for the benefit of people in other countries. Not to mention how much harm it’s done in combating antibiotic-resistant tuberculosis, which will affect people in the US . ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2026, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4436 "2026-04-12T23:41:01Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > In the past month, without any Congressional approval, he’s spent roughly as much on the Iran war as the annual budget of the United States Agency for International Development, which actually worked to improve things for people all over the world, saving thousands of lives, rather than killing thousands and destroying billions in civilian infrastructure. Empathy is a sin according to the Right, and helping people for “losers” according to Trump. The former think helping people is evil, and the latter think it’s a sign of weakness. So as far as both are concerned, exchanging helping people for bombs is a _good_ thing. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4437 "2026-04-13T00:03:01Z")
What I don’t get is many on the Right and in the red states are big on public displays of the Ten Commandments, teaching Biblical passages in public schools and public (Christian) prayers, and yet they seem to have ignored all of the book’s teaching on how strangers should be treated. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4438 "2026-04-13T00:05:21Z")
Religious fanatics are often very ignorant of their own religion. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4439 "2026-04-13T00:37:01Z")
It’s nice that the Pope has recently intimated about such things. 'Course … to Trump and the MAGA folk … Pope Leo’s really just a [**Mexican**](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cewdl4e57v7o), anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4440 "2026-04-13T00:47:18Z")
Sure, a Mexican born in Chicago, but they can just _smell_ all that mixed ancestry in him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=221) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=223)