# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 224
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4461 "2026-04-13T04:11:52Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Quickly followed by posting an image of himself as Jesus What _is_ that thing between the soldiers in the sky above him? That picture is just an unholy mess. You might think that he can’t sink any lower but apparently lower is infinite. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4462 "2026-04-13T04:34:16Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > > > Quickly followed by posting an image of himself as Jesus > > What _is_ that thing between the soldiers in the sky above him? That picture is just an unholy mess. You might think that he can’t sink any lower but apparently lower is infinite.. It looks like the statue of liberty has morphed into a flying bit of monstrous human anatomy. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4463 "2026-04-13T04:44:36Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > What _is_ that thing between the soldiers in the sky above him? Biblically accurate Fred Trump. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:gnao37hgqvjckfjgnso5in7m/bafkreihxo6dkl5huv4cty5r5byjxs5hcoie7dqert37jjlshet4fk2nvnq) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:gnao37hgqvjckfjgnso5in7m/bafkreihxo6dkl5huv4cty5r5byjxs5hcoie7dqert37jjlshet4fk2nvnq) ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4464 "2026-04-13T05:08:00Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He seems to think being Pope is like being the mayor of Terre Haute, IN or something. Now that you mention it, I hope that if Trump lives another ten years, most of that time is spent in Terre Haute, specifically in the Special Confinement Unit at USP Terre Haute. I’d have no objection to him being the mayor there. As regards the Pope, since when he is a crime fighter? Is he mixing the Pope up with Daredevil? One would also think that Trump would naturally align with an organization that has an absolute exception to any kind of cooperation with law enforcement, up to and including investigations of sexual abuse against minors. Those are your people, Donald! You need them, more than anyone else on this earth right now. > [@dtilque](#): > > Oh great. All we need is zombie/vampire/ghoul (circle appropriate term) Epstein. Well, we don’t need him but Melania seems lonely lately. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4465 "2026-04-13T05:24:02Z")
Vance on a roll. [![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_56,w_100,c_scale,f_avif/v200/zkhzmeuw5pyaexb3ue1w) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_56,w_100,c_scale,f_avif/v200/zkhzmeuw5pyaexb3ue1w) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4466 "2026-04-13T06:26:01Z")
Marjorie Taylor Greene says Trump is the Antichrist. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:xjc7mkotpenvhh6ffewkdpyn/bafkreibwkp3737aaj4ysk5eecqjhiaxnqerqmag4dnukykpzj6d6muqoeu) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:xjc7mkotpenvhh6ffewkdpyn/bafkreibwkp3737aaj4ysk5eecqjhiaxnqerqmag4dnukykpzj6d6muqoeu) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4467 "2026-04-13T06:43:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It is strikingly familiar to all those White Supremacists that claim they are the “Real Jews” chosen by God, and the others calling themselves Jews are actually descendants of Satan. I thought their inane argument was real true Christians are the chosen people of God, the deity of the New Testament, who, of course is not that evil deity of the Old Testament Jews worship. Which is hilarious to me seeing as how these Real True Christians orgiastically demand Old Testament style retribution. [The oceanic murders continue.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/strikes-alleged-drug-boats-kill-013858614.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military said Sunday that it blew up two boats accused of smuggling drugs in the eastern Pacific Ocean, killing a total of five people and leaving one survivor, as the Trump administration [pursues its campaign](https://apnews.com/article/trump-maduro-venezuela-drug-cartels-military-timeline-91e242e5c56eec39b6b7d72bf55dbd2d) against alleged traffickers in Latin America while [preparing a naval blockade](https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-israel-trump-lebanon-april-12-2026-a8a0d22918fc3fb30bc3abf1cd5c5a13) of Iranian ports. > > The attacks on Saturday bring the number of people who have been killed in boat strikes by the U.S. military to at least 168 since the Trump administration began targeting those it calls “narcoterrorists” in early September. > > As with most of the military’s statements on the dozens of strikes in the eastern Pacific and Caribbean Sea, U.S. Southern Command said it targeted the alleged drug traffickers along known smuggling routes. The military did not provide evidence that the vessel was ferrying drugs. Videos posted on X showed small boats moving across the water before they each were engulfed in a bright explosion. > > U.S. Southern Command stated on X that it notified the U.S. Coast Guard to activate the search-and-rescue system for the survivor. The Coast Guard confirmed it was coordinating the search and said updates would be provided when available. [Presidio Trust Board fired.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/president-trump-dismisses-entire-presidio-225501824.html) > [@](#): > > April 12 (UPI) – President Donald Trump has dismissed all six members of the Presidio Trust board, removing the leadership of the federal entity that manages San Francisco’s Presidio. > > Trump previously targeted the Presidio Trust in a February 2025 executive order that described the agency as an “unnecessary governmental entity” and called for it to be reduced. > > The trustees, who were appointed during the Biden administration, were notified of their removal this week, Lisa Petrie, spokeswoman[for the Presidio Trust, said.](https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/12/us/trump-presidio-landmark-board-fired.html) Yeah. I can see the rationale now: _ ~~Obama~~ Biden did it, so let’s kill it_. So, what’s the purpose of the board? > [@](#): > > Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi helped create the trust, established in 1996 to rehabilitate the former Army post after it closed. The national park is in her district. [And this is how to handle the toddler-in-chief as demonstrated by Fox News of all outifts.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fox-wraps-trump-interview-spirals-175147951.html) > [@](#): > > [President Donald Trump’s](https://www.thedailybeast.com/keyword/donald-j-trump/) rambling on Fox News appeared so erratic that he was abruptly cut off during an appearance on his favored network. > > During an appearance on [_Sunday Morning Futures_](https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-details-sweeping-all-nothing-us-blockade-strait-hormuz-after-failed-iran-talks)with Maria Bartiromo, Trump, 79, ricocheted across topics, including his newly announced blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, renaming the Gulf of Mexico “The Gulf of Trump,” election fraud claims, and fresh attacks on NATO allies. > > As Trump launched into a tirade against countries—including the United Kingdom and Germany—for “not being there” for the United States after it launched a surprise war on Iran in coordination with Israel, Bartiromo appeared to step in. > > “Mr. President we want to respect your time,” said Bartiromo, cutting the president off mid-rant as he gloated that Venezuela is making “more money” than it ever has after his surprise kidnapping of the country’s leader in January. > > “I know how busy you are this morning, and I know that we will have part two of this interview this week at the White House. So I want to thank you so much for calling in and breaking all of this news this morning, sir,” Bartiromo continued. > > “I will see you this upcoming week in the Oval Office, sir, for part two of our interview, when we discuss the broader issues and the impact on the economy…Thank you, Mr. President.” Why, oh, why couldn’t that work to shuffle him away from anything connected with running the government? [And in the “No scat, Sherlock” news, we have this.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/black-members-warn-military-moving-110000105.html) > [@](#): > > A troubling notion has gripped some Black current and former service members: The U.S. military — long seen as a pathway to opportunity in Black communities — seems to be drifting backward, toward a more segregated time. > > “[Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth] came into office promising to turn the military into a color-blind meritocracy — it is neither color-blind nor a meritocracy,” Theodore Johnson, a former U.S. Navy commander, told Capital B. “In fact, it is demonstrably less of both, as recent firings and denied promotions attest to.” > > These actions, he and others maintain, continue a pattern of targeting Black contributions to the military, and raise fresh concerns about the future of diversity in the ranks. Black Americans make up [some 17% of active-duty military personnel](https://about.bgov.com/insights/news/no-name-no-picture-military-to-reckon-with-bias-in-promotions/), compared with 14% of the U.S. population. > > The highest levels of military leadership, Johnson added, “appear more like country-club nepotism” than selection of the best woman or man for the job regardless of race or ethnicity. He was referring to NBC News’ [recent reporting](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/hegseth-intervened-military-promotions-dozen-senior-officers-rcna266062) that Hegseth has “taken steps” to block or stall the promotions of at least a dozen Black and female senior officers across the four branches of the military. Doris Miller. Frank Knox. There’s no doubt which one Hegseth adores and why. [John Brennan calls 'em as he sees 'em.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ex-cia-director-think-25th-013218026.html) > [@](#): > > “I think the 25th Amendment was written with Donald Trumps in mind, because allowing someone like this to continue to be the commander-in-chief and to control the tremendous capabilities of the U.S. military, including our nuclear weapons capability, which he seemed to allude to when he said he’s going to just eliminate a entire civilization,” Brennan told MS NOW’s Ali Velshi on his show. > > “Again, we really are in very, very troubling times,” he added. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 7:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4468 "2026-04-13T07:43:45Z")
I’ve brought this up on various social media arguments I’ve had with the MAGA crowd. Their response is, essentially, that they’ll be nice to the immigrants who are here legally, and to Hell with all the others. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4469 "2026-04-13T07:56:46Z")
Did you ask them how they can tell the difference? Their answer falls in the “Let God sort them out” category. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4470 "2026-04-13T08:10:42Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > What _is_ that thing between the soldiers in the sky above him? That picture is just an unholy mess. You might think that he can’t sink any lower but apparently lower is infinite. It looked like it might be McNaughton’s work so I nipped over to his site but it was not evident there. Frankly, although the subject matter makes my gorge rise, his execution was better than this hot garbage. I suspect a staffer ordered up some AI ti produce an image “in Jon McNaughton’s style.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4471 "2026-04-13T08:26:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Did you ask them how they can tell the difference? Their answer falls in the “Let God sort them out” category. No, it’s easy. A legal immigrant with a name like “McNeil” or “Townsend” is okay. A legal immigrant with a name like “Martinez” or “Amir” or “Chang” or “Rustikov” is automatically suspect. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4472 "2026-04-13T08:28:34Z")
Be careful what you wish for: > **[Péter Magyar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A9ter_Magyar)** > > Péter Magyar (.mw-parser-output .IPA-label-small{font-size:85%}.mw-parser-output .references .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .infobox .IPA-label-small,.mw-parser-output .navbox .IPA-label-small{font-size:100%}Hungarian: \[ˈpeːtɛr ˈmɒɟɒr\]; born 16 March 1981) is a Hungarian politician and lawyer who is the president of the Tisza Party. Having led the party to victory in the 2026 Hungarian parliamentary election, he is expected to become the next prime minister of Hungary. Magyar has additi A ... Let’s hope he does not turn out to be as bad as his predecesor. He is just a splitter: > A former member of Hungary’s governing party [Fidesz](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidesz), Magyar garnered nationwide attention when he publicly announced his resignation from all government-related positions amidst [a presidential pardon scandal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Nov%C3%A1k_presidential_pardon_scandal) in February 2024, after expressing deep dissatisfaction with how Fidesz was governing the country. Still goood that Orbán lost, of course. But the winners are not on our side and are not our friends. Use them as long as you can, but don’t trust them. > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > an image of himself as Jesus Bloody hell. What a troll. If I was a religious person I would find a different sin depicted in every single pixel of that image. > [@aurora\_maire](#): > > You might think that he can’t sink any lower but apparently lower is infinite. It’s turds all the way down. ---
**Author:** ![Chad\_Sudan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chad_sudan/32/4509_2.png) [@Chad\_Sudan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chad_Sudan)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4473 "2026-04-13T08:32:05Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Frankly, although the subject matter makes my gorge rise, his execution was better than this hot garbage. There was a time when you could trust that this country’s religious iconography deifying Trump was the product of an artist’s own honest work. Where did we go wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4474 "2026-04-13T08:55:10Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > What I don’t get is many on the Right and in the red states are big on public displays of the Ten Commandments, teaching Biblical passages in public schools and public (Christian) prayers, and yet they seem to have ignored all of the book’s teaching on how strangers should be treated. It’s harder to beat someone with the Bible if you open it first. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4475 "2026-04-13T10:47:03Z")
> [@Chad\_Sudan](#): > > Where did we go wrong? In 2015 when nobody thought to sabotage that escalator and bring it to a sudden stop, duh. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4476 "2026-04-13T15:47:00Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > What _is_ that thing between the soldiers in the sky above him? … I shared a link to the pic with the Elder Ottlet, and her response — aside from a sense of WTeverlovingF — was to ask why he had the Transformers in the sky. (She also commented that the image should be grounds for a total ban on AI. Can’t really think of a counterargument.) ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4477 "2026-04-13T17:20:00Z")
So how’s this blockade going to work??? Chinese-flagged 500,000 ton supertanker (CF5TS) fully loaded heading out of the Persian Gulf - USN Frigate: “halt, none shall pass” CF5TS: “nah, we got a schedule to keep” USN Frigate: “halt, or we board your vessel” CF5TS: “Umm, we’re Chinese” USN Frigate: “don’t care, we’re sending a rubber boat full of swabbies to board you” CF5TS: “not stopping, eat our wake” USN rubber boat full of swabbies with a bullhorn: “hey, lower a line so we can board you” CF5TS: “no” USN rubber boat full of swabbies with a bullhorn: “stop screwing around, we’re moving closer” CF5TS: “did we hit a log?” USN rubber boat full of swabbies: bobbing in the Gulf after their boat gets caught in the negative pressure suction zone around the supertanker, “hey, stop and pick us up!” CF5TS: “nope” USN Frigate: “ok, you were warned, we’re maneuvering to block your path” CF5TS: “you seriously gonna put a 5000 ton tin can in front of a 500000 ton supertanker? You’re dumber than a doorknob” USN Frigate: “oh, right. Now you’ve done it and we’re opening fire” CF5TS: “do you really want to risk a 100 million gallon oil spill and piss off not only China but everyone else too?” USN Frigate: “repsect mah authoritah!” CF5TS: “pound sand” USN Frigate: “ok, you can pass this time.” Note: The above is a fictional story and is no way related to an alleged encounter between an aircraft carrier and a lighthouse. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4478 "2026-04-13T17:32:01Z")
The usual time honored way, if I’m not mistaken is the classical “Shot across the bow”, not tanker is going to ignore someone firing live ammo. If that’s too violent for these degenerate times I guess marines boarding the ship would work. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4479 "2026-04-13T17:50:35Z")
One thing that hasn’t been made clear to me so far (probably because there is no actual plan here) is once you have the tankers, what do you do with them? Sail them to the Gulf Coast so the US can hoard all the oil? Detain them until someone agrees to pay a ransom? Sink them? The whole war has been run along this model so it’s no surprise: 1. Seize oil tankers 2. ??? 3. Profit! Step 3, of course, is a perpetual two weeks from now. ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4480 "2026-04-13T17:58:42Z")
Theoretically they point of a blockade is not to profit from it but to force the blockaded party to surrender. With Trump though, no idea, perhaps he thinks he will keep the oil or the money, or both. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=223) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=225)