# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 230
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4581 "2026-04-15T01:28:19Z")
At this point it would actually be _less_ embarassing if he said he posted it because he’s just like Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4582 "2026-04-15T01:45:17Z")
> [@aurora\_maire](#): > > This has to be what happened. It’s a perfect Trump thing to do. Fits with his dementia symptoms as well. His brain is fishing for a word. “Doctor” is a word, it must be the right word! Better spit it out, people are watching! We see him do this all the time but he rarely gets called on it. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4583 "2026-04-15T02:32:27Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > Vance is a CINO (Catholic in Name Only). There’s definitely been a trend lately of young right-wing evangelicals becoming nominally Catholic, either because they have an architecture fetish, the hierarchical structure appeals to their inner authoritarian, or because they think they’re gonna de-wokify the church and take back to the good old days of burning heretics at the stake. There’s a meme I’ve seen on Bluesky that expresses it well; > Born and Raised Catholic: I think we should do more to help poor people > > Gen Z Catholic convert: St. Eleutherius’ treatise on the mysteries of the Eucharist in the context of 2 Thessalonians makes it clear that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote As for Vance? I think the perfect comparison to him is Julien Sorel, the main character of Stendhal’s 1830 novel _The Red and the Black_; he’s a cynical atheist who was born to late to fight in Napoleon’s army, so he memorizes the Bible and becomes a priest because it seems like the only opportunity for a poor carpenter’s son to achieve power and prestige. He was, by his own admission, an atheist before he became Catholic. I suspect that inside he believes in nothing and “found” religion simply because he figured it would help him acquire money and authority. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4584 "2026-04-15T03:21:15Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Oh, uh…okay. What sport would this be? I ask this question a lot on social media. It’s amazing how often people will talk about some sporty event or person and assume we all know what it’s in reference to. Academically I know that if I don’t know the reference then clearly it’s not aimed at me, but I’d still like some courtesy context clues occasionally. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4585 "2026-04-15T03:54:24Z")
> [@romansperson](#): > > Vance is a CINO (Catholic in Name Only). FWIW, CINO is _Christian_ In Name Only. It describes the bulk of Trump supporters. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4586 "2026-04-15T04:00:48Z")
So … RCCINO? ETA: Sounds like something you’d find in a _trattoria_. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4587 "2026-04-15T04:09:33Z")
Opportunistic religiosity. The Right has always loved it. “I’ve found Jesus!” they cry, once they’ve been caught. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4588 "2026-04-15T04:46:39Z")
He’s still rage-tweeting at the Pope. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ihpglfqq3dapqjmwl2ntktil/bafkreiclegbdriss7nanom2bjslt42oa33irfzr5icmqtczr4gp34o4nvm) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ihpglfqq3dapqjmwl2ntktil/bafkreiclegbdriss7nanom2bjslt42oa33irfzr5icmqtczr4gp34o4nvm) ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4589 "2026-04-15T05:16:02Z")
What is the line on how many he’s killed? ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4590 "2026-04-15T05:51:28Z")
So… who wants to tell Pope Leo? Also, why is Lil D yelling ‘America is Back!’, apropos of fuck all? Is that directed at His Holiness, or one of us messengers? I’ve long since been desensitized to his insane blather, but the continued approval of it by a not small amount of our fellow citizens will never not sicken and anger me. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4591 "2026-04-15T05:59:30Z")
@Smapti “Will someone please tell me the convicted felon currently disgracing not only the Oval Office but the entire territory of Lower Canada that, as awful as Iran’s theocrats are, they still have not intimated they will be using nuclear weapons on their own people.” [Killer Kennedy says fluoride makes people stupid. Science says he’s a liar.](https://www.aol.com/articles/rfk-jr-tied-fluoride-stupider-202659307.html) > [@](#): > > People who drink [fluoridated community water](https://www.yahoo.com/news/rfk-jr-says-more-cavities-160723121.html) long-term are just as smart as those who don’t, a first-of-its-kind study found. > > Published in the[journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences](https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2536005123) on Monday, April 13, the study is the first to test the impact of fluoridated water on cognition into late adulthood – long beyond childhood and adolescence, the usual targets of fluoride research. It expands upon previous [research published in November 2025](https://www.science.org/doi/full/10.1126/sciadv.adz0757), also unique for being the first to analyze population-representative data from the United States up to the age of 60. > > Community water fluoridation, or the act of adding the mineral to community water supplies to enhance dental health, has historically been considered a revolutionary accomplishment in public health, as [noted by](https://www.apha.org/topics-and-issues/fluoridation#:~:text=Community%20water%20fluoridation%20is%20recognized,tooth%20decay%20in%20the%20U.S.) the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The practice has become a battleground in recent years, however, with Secretary of Health and Human Services [Robert F. Kennedy Jr. saying in 2025](https://www.yahoo.com/news/rfk-jr-pushing-curbs-fluoride-190145072.html), without evidence, that fluoride exposure makes children “stupider.” Oft-cited studies to this point have been questioned for their validity, especially those using data from outside the United States. [The felon’s corrupt administration just got a temporary reprieve.](https://www.aol.com/articles/appeals-court-orders-judge-end-152107036.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — A federal judge must end his “intrusive” contempt investigation of the Trump administration for failing to comply with an order over flights carrying Venezuelan migrants to El Salvador last year, a divided appeals court panel [ruled Tuesday](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cadc.42696/gov.uscourts.cadc.42696.01208840434.0.pdf). > > Chief Judge James Boasberg abused his discretion in forging ahead with criminal contempt proceedings stemming from the March 2025 deportation flights, according to the majority opinion by a three-judge panel from U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. > > The ruling is the latest twist in a yearlong legal saga that has became a flashpoint in President Donald Trump’s mass deportation campaign. The White House has portrayed Boasberg as a biased judge who overstepped his authority. > > Trump’s administration has a “clear and indisputable” right to the termination of the contempt proceedings, Circuit Judge Neomi Rao wrote in the court’s majority opinion. > > “The legal error at the heart of these criminal contempt proceedings demonstrates why further investigation by the district court is an abuse of discretion,” Rao wrote. “Criminal contempt is available only for the violation of an order that is clear and specific. (Boasberg’s March 2025 order) did not clearly and specifically bar the government from transferring plaintiffs into Salvadoran custody.” > > Lawyers for the deported migrants will ask the full circuit court to review the panel’s decision, according to plaintiffs’ attorney Lee Gelernt of the American Civil Liberties Union. Gelernt said the majority opinion is “a blow to the rule of law.” [Do NOT tell me the pubbies care about following the law.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/justice-department-moves-dismiss-proud-223211945.html) > [@](#): > > The Justice Department moved to dismiss the seditious conspiracy convictions of Proud Boys and Oath Keepers members Tuesday, undoing one of the Biden administration’s most celebrated victories against those who it said inspired the January 6, 2021, attack on American democracy. > > If a judge approves the dismissals, it would erase the most serious convictions from the sprawling investigation of the US Capitol riot, one of the largest federal investigations in US history. I’m hoping the judge rips right into the felon for this aiding and abetting of treason. _I seem to be having computer issues, so I’ll leave you with this next one for today._ [Davey, my man!](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-branded-dangerous-corrupt-155930026.html) > [@](#): > > Speaking at the House of Commons, the leader of Britain’s Liberal Democrats party accused the US President of being “immoral.” He also urged Prime Minister Keir Starmer to advise King Charles to cancel his upcoming visit to the United States. The monarch is due to travel to America later this year to mark the anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. > > Referencing Trump’s recent Truth Social post about Iran, in which he threatened that “a whole civilisation will die,” Ed Davy said these were words he “never thought” would come from an American president. > > “These words are a stark reminder of how reckless, immoral, and completely outside the bounds of international law this president is,” he went on. To that end, the politician argued that Trump is “no friend” of the UK. He also suggested that he is “no leader of the free world” either. > > Next, the Liberal Democrat accused Trump of being a “dangerous and corrupt gangster.” > > “And that is how we must treat him,” he went on, before calling on the British PM to take action. > > “So, will the Prime Minister advise the King to call off his state visit to Washington before it’s too late?” Ed asked. “Because I really fear for what Trump might say or do while our King is forced to stand by his side. We cannot put His Majesty in that position.” ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4592 "2026-04-15T06:20:38Z")
> [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](#): > > Also, why is Lil D yelling ‘America is Back!’, apropos of fuck all? Is that directed at His Holiness, or one of us messengers? Because if he repeats it enough, it will eventually become true. I never thought America left, it was always there, but apparently Donnie felt otherwise. Seriously, in a weird way, I’m kind of glad that Trump got into a spat with Pope Leo. In spite of being American, he owes no allegiance to Trump. He’s got a bigger job to do and a bigger voice than Trump, and he strikes me as no Trump toadie, sycophant, or yes-man. He’s practically unassailable, impervious to Trump’s third-grade name-calling, and has the attention of over a billion people, who won’t take kindly to Trump’s threats. I’d like him to say something like, “Mr. Trump, you are a liar and a cheat. You are a convicted criminal. You are always looking for a way to enrich yourself at the expense of the American people, and of the people around the world. You thought you deserved a Nobel Peace Prize, but I can assure you that no such prize is awarded to anybody who starts a war with no objectives, no plan, and certainly no idea why it is being fought, other than to stroke your ego. You, sir, are the very embodiment of an idiot, full of sound and fury, and signifying nothing.” And then shut up. No matter how much Donnie spouts on social media in response, Leo shuts up and won’t rise to his bait. The White House walls will be stained with ketchup. ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4593 "2026-04-15T06:43:09Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > Nobel Peace Prize, but I can assure you that no such prize is awarded to anybody who starts a war with no objectives, no plan, and certainly no idea why it is being fought, Well to be pedantic and fair, **starting a war** with absolutely clear objectives, plan and rationale should also disqualify the instigator from consideration for a Nobel Peace Prize. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4594 "2026-04-15T07:33:45Z")
In a way, P-T, it’s a little like a defense I’ve heard more than a few times in the courtroom (yes, IAAL): “I thought he was going to hit me, so I hit him back first.” That defense never works. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4595 "2026-04-15T08:05:15Z")
> [@Monty's quote](#): > > with Secretary of Health and Human Services [Robert F. Kennedy Jr. saying in 2025](https://www.yahoo.com/news/rfk-jr-pushing-curbs-fluoride-190145072.html), without evidence, that fluoride exposure makes children “stupider.” Ok, Robert, not that I blame fluoride for your grammar, but the phrase you are seeking is “more stupid”. I get it, English is a complex language, and you need to pay attention in school in order to become fluent. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 10:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4596 "2026-04-15T10:38:06Z")
@scudsucker From [Merriam-Webster](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stupider): > [@](#): > > Is _stupider_ a word? > > [_Stupider_ is a perfectly good word](https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/are-stupider-and-stupidest-real-words) that has been in use for hundreds of years. _More stupid_ is also commonly used for the same purpose. > > Is _stupidest_ a word? > > The word _stupidest_ has been in use for hundreds of years; there is nothing wrong with it. _Most stupid_ means the same thing, and people who don’t like _stupidest_ should feel free to use it instead. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4597 "2026-04-15T11:53:07Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Trump has ordered the American military to close the Strait of Hormuz. > > In order to put pressure on other countries in Europe and Asia. > > To get them to support American military operations. > > Which are intended to open the Strait of Hormuz. > > I keep feeling like I must be missing a step somewhere. You missed the part where a ship is bound for China (the biggest buyer of Iranian oil), and America needs to decide if shooting itself in the foot is worth starting a world war. _So much winning…_ ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4598 "2026-04-15T12:01:41Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > In spite of being American, he owes no allegiance to Trump. That’s rather the heart of the matter. No American owes allegiance to any President. “No Kings” is literal truth. Our allegiance is supposedly to the Constitution, not the holder of any political office. Unfortunately, decades of falling standards in civics education, decades of propaganda, and decades of our other government branches ceding more and more authority to the Executive have led us to a rather disturbing pass. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4599 "2026-04-15T12:13:09Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > So … RCCINO? > > ETA: Sounds like something you’d find in a _trattoria_.. CATHINO? ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4600 "2026-04-15T12:16:51Z")
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