# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\
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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> Ok, Robert, not that I blame fluoride for your grammar, but the phrase you are seeking is “more stupid”.

In addition to **Monty** ’s M-W definition, he was quoting RFK, Jr. [bolding mine]

> ''The more you get, the **stupider** you are, and we need smart kids in this country, and we need healthy kids," he said during a cabinet meeting on April 30 with [President Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/).

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> been a trend lately of young right-wing evangelicals becoming nominally Catholic, either because they have an architecture fetish, the hierarchical structure appeals to their inner authoritarian,

What I see there are young RW-leaning men who have absorbed the ideology’s not just anti-Modernist but even “anti-Enlightenment” message, but then somehow conclude that even Calvinism is not “trad” enough or leaves too much room for further interpretation.

They also probably look at their conservative RW “nondenominational” megachurch preachers and can tell their teaching is theogically shallow as a rain puddle. But instead of deep diving on the doctrines of their alternatives, they fix upon the forms that offer them ritualistic and “mystical” elements — plus the celebration of martyrdom that caters to their persecution complex— and a hardline stance on no LGBT affirmation and no female clergy.

Then they’re upset to discover for example that to the RCC “pro-life” means you oppose BOTH abortion AND the death penalty.

All that BTW I also see in the simultaneous phenomenon of “Ortho bros” which is a similar “revival” of young Christian Right males only towards Eastern Orthodoxy. Probably from watching too much RT and because beards are in style nowadays 😜

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> …they fix upon the forms that offer them ritualistic and “mystical” elements — plus the celebration of martyrdom that caters to their persecution complex— and a hardline stance on no LGBT affirmation and no female clergy.
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> Then they’re upset to discover for example that to the RCC “pro-life” means you oppose BOTH abortion AND the death penalty.

Checks all the boxes.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> > [@Monty's quote](#):
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> > with Secretary of Health and Human Services [Robert F. Kennedy Jr. saying in 2025](https://www.yahoo.com/news/rfk-jr-pushing-curbs-fluoride-190145072.html), without evidence, that fluoride exposure makes children “stupider.”
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> Ok, Robert, not that I blame fluoride for your grammar, but the phrase you are seeking is “more stupid”. I get it, English is a complex language, and you need to pay attention in school in order to become fluent.

Maybe RFK Jr. doesn’t want to go to Jupiter ('cause he’d get more stupider). We all know he wants to go to Mars, probably to get more candy bars.

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Of course it’s a word. It’s why boys go to Jupiter.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
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> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#):
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> ('cause he’d get more stupider)

Ok, I get the incorrectly correcting people bit and I try to tamp down my grammar Nazi proclivities, but … Either ‘more stupid’ or ‘stupider’ are perfectly cromulent. ‘More stupider’ makes me want to claw my eyes out.

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> All that BTW I also see in the simultaneous phenomenon of “Ortho bros” which is a similar “revival” of young Christian Right males only towards Eastern Orthodoxy. Probably from watching too much RT and because beards are in style nowadays 😜

IIRC, George Costanza was particularly drawn to the hats.

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It’s from a kid’s chant (as Wookie obviously knows)

_Boys go to Jupiter to get more stupider  
Girls go to Mars to get more candy bars._

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I know, but it still chaps my hide

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> [@Monty](#):
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> So, will the Prime Minister advise the King to call off his state visit to Washington before it’s too late?” Ed asked. “Because I really fear for what Trump might say or do while our King is forced to stand by his side. We cannot put His Majesty in that position.”

I agree. Putting the King in the position of having to stand next to a dangerous crazy man is not what the government of the UK should be doing. It’s gone beyond “well we need to do this to suck up to Trump.”

It would be a direct acknowledgement and support of everything Trump is saying and doing.

If the UK government does not cancel this visit directly, I suggest King Charles could come down with something that prevents travel. This would save face for the government.

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4611 "2026-04-15T16:23:26Z")

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Regarding Truth Social posts from him like this one (“Will someone please tell Pope Leo that Iran has killed at least 42,000 innocent, completely unarmed, protesters in the last two months, and that for Iran to have a Nuclear Bomb is absolutely unacceptable. Thank you for your attention to this matter. AMERICA IS BACK!!! President DONALD J. TRUMP”), does he realize that there’s an alternative to passive-aggressive posting like this? As POTUS, he can get literally anyone in the world on the phone, including the Pope. So why not call him to deliver the message directly? Is he too chickenshit just to tell people his message?

Does he do any quiet diplomacy? Talking to other world leaders directly?

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**Post date:** [April 15, 2026, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/4612 "2026-04-15T16:34:11Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> does he **realize**

My bold.

Surely you realize what an absurd question that is.  
🧐

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Does he do any quiet diplomacy?

Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!

Particularly when it comes to public figures and leaders whom he doesn’t like (or whom he feels are opposing him), it seems like he really **really** prefers public shaming/bullying. And I don’t think he’s really ever been capable of quiet _anything_ (and even less so these days); he craves the attention too much.

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> So why not call him to deliver the message directly? Is he too chickenshit just to tell people his message?

Yes. 45 folds like a cheap suit whenever he has to confront someone directly.

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He’d much rather perform than govern. That’s what this grandstanding on social media is: performing for his rubes. Governing involves work, nuance, a soul. None of those things interest him as much as the attention he gets by performing.

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Does he do any quiet diplomacy?

Yes, but he says the quiet part loud.

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> > [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> > Does he do any quiet diplomacy?
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> Yes, but he says the quiet part loud. -

I wish he would only say the smart part out loud.

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Then he would stay sile… oh I see your point.

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> ‘More stupider’ makes me want to claw my eyes out.

That is stupid, don’t do it: it hurts and you won’t be able to see anymore. Claw somebody else’s eye out. Much better for you.

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> [@aurora\_maire](#):
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> This has to be what happened. It’s a perfect Trump thing to do.
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> [https://x.com/mannyfidel/status/2044168279623676046?s=46&t=hUTQWHj9NQWf8Y8RgMv1TA](https://x.com/mannyfidel/status/2044168279623676046?s=46&t=hUTQWHj9NQWf8Y8RgMv1TA)

Although I fully agree that it’s plausible that Donald heard someone say ‘the image is doctored’ and decided that meant ‘the image is of you as a doctor’--------the “explanation” doesn’t really make sense, either.

How is an AI-generated image “doctored” when it’s all fake to begin with? By definition, as it were?

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