# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/41 "2025-12-02T05:45:09Z")

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I knew he was pretty smart and a WWI Flying Ace. Yet he literally ran the Luftwaffe into the ground.

One interesting thing is, while in prison, he was weaned off some derivative of morphine. Alcohol withdrawal, other things like Diazepam (Valium) may likely kill you yet not morphine/heroin.

Anyways, Hegseth has not achieved the successes of this Nazi and is working on the failures of Göring. They wouldn’t deserve to sit at the same table.

Yet I’ll be glad to supply the beakers, acids, and plenty of almonds when Hegseth is about to have his face eaten by leopards. It’s really not that hard to make your very own. Or be crafty like the failed flying ace or trade for a pack of smokes (Red, from Shawshank Redemption, can get you anything)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/42 "2025-12-02T05:47:54Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Why is that, invariably, white supremacists are the worst physical and mental specimens of their race?

[![](https://i.imgur.com/llJdDKV.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/llJdDKV.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/43 "2025-12-02T06:18:20Z")

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[The felon destroyed part of the most iconic building on the planet and for what?](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-posts-cryptic-message-ballroom-154206424.html)

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> President [Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/) posted a mysterious message on social media over the weekend after there were setbacks on the 90,000-square-foot ballroom under construction at the White House.
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> “As long as we are going to do it, we are going to do it RIGHT,” Trump wrote in the Sunday, Nov. 30 cryptic post about the project.

I suppose there is a first time for anything. But I seriously doubt this is that thing’s time.

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> “The Presidential Ballroom, which I am building at the White House, with all private donations and funding (ZERO cost to the American Taxpayer!), will be, at its completion, the most beautiful and spectacular Ballroom anywhere in the World!” Trump wrote.

No, nope, no way, no how. The people of the country are paying every second that disgrace is polluting the office. And again, I suppose there’s a first time for everything and I doubt this thing’s time has come either.

What we’re going to be graced with, of course, is yet another unfinished or screwed up construction project courtesy of the felon.

[And in the category of “no surprise, Sherlock”, the felon ignores the law.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-told-crews-working-white-152055512.html)

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> President [Donald Trump](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/donald-trump) encouraged those working on the construction of his [new White House ballroom project](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/democrats-already-coming-plans-trump-225633290.html)to disregard traditional permitting, zoning, and code requirements, according to a new report.
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> Since announcing the project in July,[Trump’s ballroom has become larger](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/even-trump-architect-trying-shrink-190017298.html), costlier and more destructive than initially thought – raising concerns about whether [the president is following historical rules](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/photos-reveal-shocking-destruction-east-193833511.html) when it comes to a [White House](https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/white-house) addition.
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> The ballroom’s capacity, initially thought to be 650, has been raised to 900. Its cost has nearly doubled from $200 million [to $350 million](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-now-says-ballroom-cost-024830700.html). Its construction, which Trump initially said would not interfere with the integrity of the current White House, has [led to the destruction of the East Wing](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-melania-upset-east-wing-demolition-b2862932.html).
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> But to ensure the new ballroom is erected, the president has installed [loyalists into positions that would approve the new desig](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/white-house-fires-entire-commission-144928775.html)n and reportedly told teams they do not need to follow the same permit and zoning rules as other properties,[the _New York Times_ reported.](http://go.redirectingat.com/?id=44681X1458326&articleId=b2875706&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2025%2F11%2F29%2Fus%2Fpolitics%2Ftrump-white-house-ballroom.html&sref=/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-white-house-ballroom-zoning-b2875706.html)

[Did someone say “nuisance suit”?](https://www.aol.com/news/justice-department-could-present-indictment-215244857.html)

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> The Justice Department could present a new indictment against James Comey to a grand jury as soon as this week.
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> People familiar with the situation inside the Justice Department believe whatever comes next may happen quickly, and that no matter what, prosecutors will likely present new indictments against the former FBI director and New York Attorney General Letitia James to grand juries in the Eastern District of Virginia.
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> The previous cases against Comey and James were dismissed last week after a judge found that interim US Attorney [Lindsey Halligan](https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/30/politics/rise-fall-lindsey-halligan-63-days-us-attorney-alexandria-virginia?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) didn’t have the authority of a prosecutor when the indictments were returned in late September and early October.
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> Comey had previously pleaded not guilty to charges that he lied to Congress five years ago. James pleaded not guilty to mortgage fraud-related charges.
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> After the[dismissals of their cases,](https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/25/politics/lindsey-halligan-justice-department-prosecutors-dont-know-whos-in-charge?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo)FBI Director Kash Patel said over the weekend that “multiple responses” could come as early as “right after Thanksgiving” in the dismissed case against Comey.

[The felon’s copying war criminal Pete and you already know what for.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/just-trump-reportedly-summoning-top-142510001.html)

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> President **Donald Trump** is set to gather his top national security officials in the Oval Office on Monday evening for a closed-door “next steps” discussion on Venezuela.
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> Sources familiar with the matter [told CNN](https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/01/politics/trump-venezuela-meeting) that senior figures including Secretary of Defense **Pete Hegseth** , Secretary of State **Marco Rubio** , Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. **Dan Caine** , Chief of Staff **Susie Wiles** and Deputy Chief of Staff **Stephen Miller** are expected at the 5 p.m. (ET) session. It comes as the administration has escalated its regional posture with strikes on suspected drug-trafficking boats in the Caribbean.

Yeah. He’s definitely going to start an actual war. And that’s because the adults in the room aren’t actual adults.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/44 "2025-12-02T07:00:02Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > Finally, it looks like what was promised initially for the F-35 is still a long way away. We bought the sizzle, but the steak is looking a lot shittier than advertised.
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> Because Mr. Potato Head (thanks, Johnny) poured ketchup all over it?

Well, they _were_ [Trump steaks](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Steaks).

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/45 "2025-12-02T08:00:18Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Upgrades can only be done in the US, by a country that has explicitly and repeatedly threatened Canada’s sovereignty. This right there should be a dealbreaker.

Not so. Israel has been upgrading the hell out of it’s own F-35s ([link](https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/hkld211uwze)); I don’t see why Canada can’t do the same if it wants to.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/46 "2025-12-02T10:04:56Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> It’s a Crusader flag which has been co-opted by white supremacists and Christian nationalists, along with the “Deus Vult” slogan that Hegseth also has tattooed on him.

They claim it is Latin, but it actually only shows they are too lazy and ignorant to write it out: Deus Vultures - Godott’s scavengers.

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**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/47 "2025-12-02T13:29:56Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Not so. Israel has been upgrading the hell out of it’s own F-35s ([link](https://www.ynetnews.com/magazine/article/hkld211uwze)); I don’t see why Canada can’t do the same if it wants to.

I think that Israel is the only one who got that permission. Everybody else is held captive to US defense contractors.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/48 "2025-12-02T13:33:15Z")

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Have other countries even asked? Or are they just happy to leave it all to the U.S.?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/49 "2025-12-02T14:48:06Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Why is that, invariably, white supremacists are the worst physical and mental specimens of their race?

Because if they are actually impressive (or even adequate) people they don’t _need_ to fall back on “I’m white so I’m superior” to feel good about themselves.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/50 "2025-12-02T14:58:45Z")

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I just keep thinking “Where are the big guys in the white coats and a VERY large net?”

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/51 "2025-12-02T15:00:51Z")

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If you’re poor you’re crazy, if you’re rich you’re eccentric. Same goes for crime; it’s only a crime if you aren’t rich.

Trump would have spent most of his life in prison if he wasn’t rich.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/52 "2025-12-02T15:07:34Z")

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Final tally: 160+ posts over the course of five hours.

Including duplicates, reposting of insane conspiracy theories (Obama’s about to be indicted! Michelle Obama was operating Biden’s autopen! Pelosi planned January 6!), AI videos, and accusations of Sen. Kelly committing treason.

Then he woke up early just to post, “TRUTH SOCIAL IS THE BEST! There is nothing even close!!!”

Maybe I’ll just spend the day hitting refresh on his wiki page to see if I can catch the moment the verbs move to the past tense.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/53 "2025-12-02T15:10:09Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Final tally: 160+ posts over the course of five hours.

Well, I guess that’s better than fucking over the USA and the World some more. Keep those tiny digits working on his phone (well he does have to wipe. Sorry for that image).

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/54 "2025-12-02T15:41:53Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Still, I think Canada would have bought F-35s if Mr. Potato Head hadn’t bolloxed the deal. So there goes billions of dollars that would have gone to USian companies.

Yep. Canada Day last year, we had a fly-over here in Ottawa, that included as many planes as possible that the RCAF had every flown. Then they included a couple of F-35s. They were US aircraft on a routine NORAD patrol, and they scheduled the flyover as part of that routine. At the time, it was pretty cool, and spoke to how well the US and Canada can work together.

Of course, that’s all been trashed now.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/55 "2025-12-02T15:45:53Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> Of course, that’s all been trashed now.

It will take years, perhaps decades before anyone will ever respect and trust the USA again.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/56 "2025-12-02T16:37:35Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Have other countries even asked? Or are they just happy to leave it all to the U.S.?

Of course this would have been asked. The requirement to have upgrades done in the US would be part of the contract negotiations, and this non-negotiable, particularly when it comes to the “black box” electronics.

Also, is there a “Kill switch” on these planes sold to allies? Some say yes others say no. One thing is certain, Trump claimed that jets sold to allies would be downgraded by 10%. This came as something of a surprise, and will factor into the impressions countries have when purchasing jet fighters in future.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/57 "2025-12-02T17:07:36Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I just keep thinking “Where are the big guys in the white coats and a VERY large net?”.

They’re working for ICE.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/58 "2025-12-02T17:57:12Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Keep those tiny digits working on his phone (well he does have to wipe. Sorry for that image).

Given reports of a certain aroma emanating from him, it’s quite likely he doesn’t bother so to do.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/59 "2025-12-02T20:18:23Z")

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Trump 3 days ago: I AM THE AFFORDABILITY PRESIDENT

Trump today: The word affordability is a Democrat scam

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> **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3m6zfx6h4es2x)**
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> Trump: "The word 'affordability' is a Democrat scam"

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/60 "2025-12-02T20:19:10Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Keep those tiny digits working on his phone (well he does have to wipe. Sorry for that image).

I thought he had people to do that for him.

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