# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2026, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6081 "2026-06-06T04:44:22Z")

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> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> Next thing you know they’ll be saying corporations are people

Corporations _are_ “people” in a legal sense, and it’s a good thing they are, because you wouldn’t want to try to individually sue all of a company’s shareholders if the company had wronged you and you were seeking legal recourse.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2026, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6082 "2026-06-06T04:49:28Z")

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> [@Tatterdemalion](#):
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> Picky, picky.

Pat Paulsen for President!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2026, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6083 "2026-06-06T05:10:14Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Corporations _are_ “people” in a legal sense, and it’s a good thing they are, because you wouldn’t want to try to individually sue all of a company’s shareholders if the company had wronged you and you were seeking legal recourse.

Let me know the next time a corporation breaks the law and gets thrown in jail.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2026, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6084 "2026-06-06T06:09:24Z")

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We (US) have a low key delegation at Putin’s 2nd rate Davos-lite economic conference in St Petersburg.

Rodney Mims Cook Jr., who serves as chair of the [U.S. Commission of Fine Arts] and ballroom lackey is attending.

([Trump arts commissioner wants 3 arches in DC, not 1](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-arts-commissioner-wants-3-154016060.html))

Nobody told Sec. of State, Marco ‘big shoes’ Rubio someone was there to represent the US. Also attending were noted Trump remora Candace Owens and this fat boy.

[![](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_100,w_57,c_scale,f_avif/v200/rhsxqekbhyxbwmfqef9o) ](https://images.spot.im/image/upload/q_60,fl_lossy,dpr_3,h_100,w_57,c_scale,f_avif/v200/rhsxqekbhyxbwmfqef9o)

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**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2026, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6085 "2026-06-06T15:24:09Z")

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Is that a bodyguard with SS? (appropriate initials)  
I thin buddy has enough…protection…as it is.

EDIT: keeping typo

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**Author:** ![Tatterdemalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Tatterdemalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tatterdemalion)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2026, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6086 "2026-06-06T15:28:11Z")

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Raplying to Smapti, yes I absolutely would want to sue the investors if a cororation wronged me. A limited liability corporation is a mechanism, defined by statute law, for laying off risk. So that the investors are not out anything more than what they have invested. This has both pros and cons, but it has nothing to do with the consumer at all.

And what is defined by law can also be modified by law, and it is past time to do that. Citizens United and John Roberts be damned.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2026, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6087 "2026-06-06T23:35:42Z")

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[The vanity concert isn’t the only thing stars are abandoning.](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-white-house-cage-fight-151052000.html)

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> Several A-list celebrities invited to [President Donald Trump’s UFC cage fight](https://www.aol.com/news/majority-americans-disapprove-trump-ufc-004722399.html) on the White House lawn later this month have no plans to show up, according to a new report, becoming the latest group to snub a presidential celebration of America’s 250th anniversary.
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> Comedian Adam Sandler, actor and former professional wrestler Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, actor and musician Jared Leto and television host Mario Lopez are among the names that UFC President and CEO Dana White [told](https://time.com/article/2026/05/26/dana-white-ufc-white-house-fight-interview/)[_Time_](https://time.com/article/2026/05/26/dana-white-ufc-white-house-fight-interview/)were invited to the event on Trump’s birthday, June 14.
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> But representatives for the stars, and one person close to Johnson, [told](https://www.vanityfair.com/story/ufc-250-white-house-trump?_sp=dfc138d3-057d-4ab1-9a95-2eac10a623cd.1780687658656)[_Vanity Fair_](https://www.vanityfair.com/story/ufc-250-white-house-trump?_sp=dfc138d3-057d-4ab1-9a95-2eac10a623cd.1780687658656) that none of them plan to attend.

[And who’s surprised the Acting Attorney General is acting this way?](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-attorney-general-pick-says-202735000.html)

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> [Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche](https://www.aol.com/news/pam-bondi-puts-todd-blanche-234831372.html) said he is developing “roadblocks” to shield President Donald Trump from potential prosecutions after he leaves office in 2029.
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> Blanche made the remarks in an interview with _NewsNation_ released Thursday, the same day Trump announced he would [formally nominate him as the nation’s top prosecutor](https://www.aol.com/news/perturbed-bibi-bullish-midterms-study-171212175.html), a post which requires Senate confirmation.
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> Trump’s former personal attorney, Blanche became acting attorney general after Trump fired [Pam Bondi](https://www.aol.com/news/pam-bondi-diagnosed-cancer-she-143937186.html) in April. In the weeks since, he appeared to solidify his standing for the permanent role, advancing probes into the president’s political rivals and approving a controversial settlement in [Trump’s unprecedented $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-may-dropped-slush-fund-204339738.html).
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> In the pre-recorded interview, host Katie Pavlich brought up Blanche’s recent remark that Trump “[absolutely](https://www.aol.com/news/acting-ag-todd-blanche-says-202034655.html)” would have faced prison time if he had not won the 2024 election, referring to the [four criminal cases brought against him](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-ap-new-york-white-house-letitia-james-b2422669.html).
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> She also noted that some Democrats have explicitly called for Trump officials to face prosecution after the next election — potentially alluding to [Illinois Governor JB Pritzker](https://www.aol.com/news/pritzker-likens-trump-america-early-214732055.html), who told _The New York Times_ in March that “people in this administration who’ve broken the law” should be “criminally prosecuted, civilly prosecuted.”

[So now insider trading’s okay if a republican does it, evidently.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/trump-issued-pardon-former-republican-120515104.html)

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> WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has [issued a pardon](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/06/granting-pardon-to-stephen-e-buyer/) to [Stephen Buyer](https://apnews.com/article/buyer-republican-congressman-indiana-insider-trading-conviction-793e0476d42dac34ba01d8c1b541976c), a former Republican congressman from Indiana who served nearly two years in prison for making [illegal stock trades](https://apnews.com/article/technology-new-york-city-congress-9b2aa70c7d419cde7d3678505670ce85) based on inside information after he left office.
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> Buyer was sentenced to 22 months in prison in 2023 for [trades made while working as a consultant and lobbyist](https://www.sec.gov/files/litigation/complaints/2022/comp-pr2022-128.pdf). He was ordered to forfeit more than $350,000, representing the amount of the illegal gains, and pay a $10,000 fine. He was released in 2025.
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> The Supreme Court in May rejected Buyer’s appeal without comment or noted dissent.

How should a sitting president commemorate the D-Day landing? [Of course, by having AI fake up international crowds chanting support for him.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/article/trump-posts-video-of-ai-generated-characters-from-around-the-world-chanting-they-love-donald-trump-175004159.html)

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> President Trump shared an AI-generated video on Truth Social on Saturday — the 82nd anniversary of the D-Day landings in Normandy — featuring an auto-tuned chant of “they love Donald Trump” set against AI-generated characters from around the world.
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> The [one-minute clip](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116703094991947376) cycles through depictions of people the song frames as being from Mexico, Italy, the Middle East, Africa, China and India, with each verse ending in the refrain “They love Donald, Donald Trump.” One part of the video shows Trump riding a camel; another shows Trump riding a motorcycle in India.
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> “Everywhere I go, they love Donald Donald Trump,” the auto-tuned vocal track repeats. The voice closes out the video singing, “I gotta say, I love Donald Donald Trump. Might be president one day, just like Donald Donald Trump.”

And let’s not forget to have some blatant racism, to boot.

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> The depictions, particularly those representing African and Indigenous people, lean on stereotypical tribal imagery — including face paint, beadwork and feathered headdresses against an American flag backdrop.

That’s all I can post for this morning. I’m having Internet issues for my news sources.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2026, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6088 "2026-06-06T23:54:19Z")

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More anti-winning.

Attorneys for musician Chuck Redd say a D.C. Superior Court judge dismissed a breach of contract lawsuit filed against Redd after he [canceled a Christmas Eve performance](https://apnews.com/article/kennedy-center-jazz-jam-canceled-e556b53085a483140436cfaa8b6f177f) at the [Kennedy Center](https://apnews.com/article/trump-kennedy-center-b27248c91b59594da972b95191c4035f) in protest of President Donald Trump’s influence over the venue.

The dismissal on Friday was granted under Washington’s [Anti-SLAPP laws](https://code.dccouncil.gov/us/dc/council/code/titles/16/chapters/55), which are designed to prevent meritless lawsuits intended to silence opposing points of view on matters of public interest

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6089 "2026-06-07T00:37:08Z")

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In case you were wondering, here’s what Trump decided to post today instead of saying or doing anything to commemorate D-Day;

[![](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16636/4443b942bbc533cc.jpg) ](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16636/4443b942bbc533cc.jpg)

[![](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16637/70ba054abefe4f47.jpg) ](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16637/70ba054abefe4f47.jpg)

[![](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16639/9c5dc6bdab97817e.jpg) ](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16639/9c5dc6bdab97817e.jpg)

[![](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16634/16f50b7757403295.jpg) ](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16634/16f50b7757403295.jpg)

[![](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16640/19ea8f22288e98a6.jpg) ](https://truth-archive.us-iad-1.linodeobjects.com/attachments/16640/19ea8f22288e98a6.jpg)

Full-blown dementia coupled with narcissistic collapse.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6090 "2026-06-07T00:52:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Doesn’t matter what the courts say about the Second Felonial Era breaking the law.]([Even If Trump's Ballroom Project Is Illegal, a DOJ Lawyer Says, the Courts Cannot Stop It](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/even-trumps-ballroom-project-illegal-200032296.html))
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> > Last March, U.S. District Judge Richard J. Leon [ruled](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/grandiose-white-house-ballroom-plan-193046172.html) that President Donald Trump’s White House ballroom project is illegal because “no statute comes close to giving the President the authority he claims to have.” But even if higher courts ultimately agree with Leon, a Justice Department lawyer argued on Friday, they cannot stop the project.
> > 
> > The lawyer, Yaakov Roth, was [asking](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-appeals-court-hear-challenge-trumps-white-house-ballroom-2026-06-05/) the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit to overturn Leon’s [preliminary injunction](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.287645/gov.uscourts.dcd.287645.61.0_1.pdf), which it temporarily [stayed](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/trump-ballroom-construction-allowed-now-us-appeals-court-says-2026-04-18/) in April, or block it while the case, [_National Trust for Historic Preservation v. NPS_](https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/73127510/national-trust-for-historic-preservation-v-nps/), is pending. Because the ballroom project serves national security interests and is already pretty far along, Roth said, it would be an “abuse of discretion” to order that it be halted pending congressional approval.
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> > “When did it become impossible for courts to stop this project?” Judge Patricia Millett, a Barack Obama appointee, [asked](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2U1Uxoh0IM) Roth. “I think it would’ve been improper to enjoin it even on day one,” he replied.
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> > Even if “this were complete lawlessness by the government,” the project “couldn’t be stopped?” Millett asked. “I think that’s right,” Roth said. He conceded that Congress could pass a law prohibiting the project, in which case the Trump administration presumably would be obliged to obey.

Something that I learned today that goes hand in hand with the bit you posted here (I cut content that wasn’t relative to this factoid) is that Trump’s attorneys are claiming that [Trump could bulldoze the Statue of Liberty](https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/05/white-house-ballroom-donald-trump-00951892), and that no one in government or the judicial branch could stop him.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6091 "2026-06-07T03:36:13Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Trump’s attorneys are claiming that [Trump could bulldoze the Statue of Liberty](https://www.politico.com/news/2026/06/05/white-house-ballroom-donald-trump-00951892), and that no one in government or the judicial branch could stop him.

My wife and I are currently watching _The Man in the High Castle_. We’ve already seen the episode where Lady Liberty was blown up. Last night, we saw the episode with what replaced her. And, yet, that monstrosity is still not as tacky as anything Rip van Simple has managed to put up or plans to put up.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6092 "2026-06-07T05:10:53Z")

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[Secretary of war crimes wants to kill everyone on the military’s death row.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/army-lays-groundwork-death-row-152531445.html)

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> The Army is preparing to carry out the executions of the military’s four death-row inmates if ordered to do so by the president, according to an internal planning document reviewed by ABC News. If carried out, it would mark the first time the military executed convicted American inmates in more than a half-century
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> The plan, dubbed “Operation Resolute Justice” and issued internally in February, directs Army officials to coordinate with the Federal Bureau of Prisons to transfer condemned prisoners from the U.S. Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, to the federal execution facility in Terre Haute, Indiana, where the Justice Department carried out a series of non-military federal executions during President Donald Trump’s first term.
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> The military has not executed a service member since 1961, when Pvt. John Bennett was put to death after being convicted of the rape and attempted murder of an 11-year-old girl in Austria.
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> Cynthia Smith, an Army spokesperson, said the service conducts planning exercises for executions, much as it does for other potential missions as the services regularly try to anticipate orders from the White House.
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> “Exercises regarding this operation have been conducted regularly for the past 20 years. These drills are a standard component of our continued planning and preparation if the president approves a death sentence,” Smith said, adding that the service has not been given a specific order from the president.
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> The Army’s internal plan directs multiple Army components to prepare for and facilitate executions “no later than 150 days from the date of presidential approval of the death sentences,” laying out timelines for check-in meetings and procedures for carrying out executions should the president authorize them.
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> While military courts can impose death sentences, presidential approval is required before any execution can proceed. The White House did not respond to a request for comment when asked whether Trump intends to give approval to move forward with the execution of any of the military’s death row inmates, referring ABC News to the Army.

But not to worry, part of the plan is how to handle the press.

> [@](#):
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> The plan also addresses how the Army would manage public communications surrounding an execution, including provisions for media access to witness the executions.

[Locals not impressed with the war criminal Hegseth.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/world/articles/french-villagers-persona-non-grata-162653496.html)

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> Pete Hegseth flew to France to commemorate the anniversary of the D-Day landings, but the locals were not pleased to see him.
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> The 45-year-old Secretary of Defense was “persona non grata” for locals of Langrune-sur-Mer, a small town in Normandy where an international ceremony was held on Saturday, according to French news station [BFM TV](https://www.bfmtv.com/societe/video-il-n-a-pas-sa-place-pete-hegseth-persona-non-grata-en-normandie-pour-le-82eme-anniversaire-du-debarquement_VN-202606060110.html).
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> Sylvie Lamy Thepaut, a member of the local association Langrune en Commun, did not hold back on her distaste for Hegseth.
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> “He has very warlike remarks, and it seems to us that he does not exactly share our values ​​of democracy and freedom,” she told the outlet, speaking in French.

You got that right, sister!

[Felon-class battlships are in trouble already.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/legislators-demand-navy-prove-trump-124652884.html)

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> Concerned about a cascading impact on [America’s already strained nuclear shipbuilding industry](https://www.twz.com/alarming-navy-intel-slide-warns-of-chinas-200-times-greater-shipbuilding-capacity), the House Armed Services Committee wants the Secretary of the Navy to prove that procurement of the proposed [nuclear-powered](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-class-battleships-nuclear-powered-003823456.html)[_Trump_](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-class-battleships-nuclear-powered-003823456.html)[class battleships](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-class-battleships-nuclear-powered-003823456.html) won’t exacerbate existing construction delays on [aircraft carriers](https://www.stripes.com/branches/navy/2026-05-11/navy-uss-doris-miller-delay-21641982.html) and [submarines](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-class-battleships-nuclear-powered-003823456.html). This follows a congressional move last month [to block the Navy](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/congress-moves-block-trump-class-185627778.html) from starting construction of the first of the new class of battleships until the service provides assurances that key weapon systems are “sufficiently mature.”

[The felon caught lying about statistics.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/even-trump-says-doesn-t-224307036.html)

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> President Donald Trump uses [a lot](https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/23/politics/fact-check-28-false-claims-trump?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo) of [fictional statistics](https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/17/politics/fact-check-trump-drug-prices-wars-shutdown?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo). He usually deploys them with a breezy confidence.
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> At an [event](https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-remarks-agriculture-roundtable-chippewa-falls-wisconsin-june-5-2026/) in Wisconsin on Friday, though, he made a statistical claim that sounded so clearly dubious that he wondered aloud where it had come from.
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> “And we’ve also had huge drops in — and I’ll tell you, this is something that’s amazing: African American unemployment is now doing better than it’s ever done. And I don’t know where that stat came from, but I’ll take it,” he said. “I don’t know where the hell that stat come — but we’ll take it.”

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> [@Monty](#):
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> until the service provides assurances that key weapon systems are “sufficiently mature.”

(quoted from the link)

So like… never? Those magical railguns that are supposed to be mounted on the Trumpy-Wumpy class are vaporware right now. Also, I thought Trump already knew the dangers of mixing magnets and water!

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6094 "2026-06-07T05:36:58Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> [Secretary of war crimes wants to kill everyone on the military’s death row.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/army-lays-groundwork-death-row-152531445.html)

Lest anyone not click that link the reason for Pete’s bloodthirst is explained below,

> Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said in September he would be seeking the execution of Nidal Hassan, who was sentenced to death for the Fort Hood mass shooting in 2009 which left 13 dead and 32 injured, according to The Hill.
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> “I am 100% committed to ensuring the death penalty is carried out for Nidal Hasan,” Hegseth said. “The victims and survivors deserve justice without delays.”

Since these executions require Hegseth to request and receive Presidential authorization we can be pretty sure which two on the list are getting executed,

> The other three death row inmates are:  
> **Ronald Gray (Sentenced 1988):** A former Army cook convicted of two murders, an attempted murder, and rape in the Fayetteville, North Carolina area.  
> **Hasan Akbar (Sentenced 2005):** Convicted of premeditated murder for a 2003 grenade and rifle attack on his fellow soldiers in Kuwait, killing two officers and wounding 14 others.  
> **Timothy Hennis (Sentenced 2010):** A former Master Sergeant who was convicted in 1989 for a 1985 triple murder and rape in North Carolina, acquitted, then later reconvicted based on new DNA evidence.

and which two are getting pardons.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6095 "2026-06-07T05:41:00Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Secretary of war crimes wants to kill everyone on the military’s death row.

I’m having a hard time getting worked up about this one. The four inmates currently awaiting a death sentence are;

- Ronald Gray, who kidnapped, raped, and murdered an 18-year-old private and a 23-year-old civilian and attempted to do the same to a 20-year-old private
- Hasan Akbar, who fragged his own unit in Kuwait in 2003, killing two officers and injuring 14 other soldiers with four hand grenades and a riflle
- Timothy Hennis, who responded to an ad for a dog up for adoption and used it as a pretense to get into a woman’s home and rape and murder her and her 5-year-old and 3-year-old daughters
- Nidal Hasan, who shot and killed 13 of his fellow soldiers in an Islamist terror attack at Ft. Hood

IMO, they’ve all got it coming.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6096 "2026-06-07T05:42:04Z")

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Nobody deserves the death penalty. Capital punishment is wrong. It’s immoral and inhumane.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6097 "2026-06-07T05:42:42Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Capital punishment is wrong.

I disagree. Some people don’t deserve to live after what they’ve done. There’s no question that any of them are guilty and the sentence was unanimously approved by a jury and by the flag officer who convened their courts-martial. They’ve received due process and the punishment fits the crime.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6098 "2026-06-07T05:49:51Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> There’s no question that any of them are guilty

> Timothy Hennis, a former master sergeant who worked on parachutes in the 82nd Airborne Division, was convicted in 1986 in North Carolina state court of raping a woman and murdering her and two of her daughters. The conviction was later overturned for insufficient evidence, and a 1989 retrial ended in an acquittal.
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> Years later, preserved evidence was retested using DNA analysis not available at the time, prompting renewed scrutiny of the case.
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> Although double jeopardy protections barred another state prosecution, U.S. military prosecutors can still charge a former service member if the offense was committed while the service member was on active duty. Hennis, who had honorably left the Army in 2004, was recalled to active duty and tried again in military court where he was convicted and sentenced to die.

Tried, overturned, retried, acquitted, but what’s a little forced ~~tripple~~ double jeopardy between friends?

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6099 "2026-06-07T05:51:15Z")

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> [@crowmanyclouds](#):
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> but what’s a little forced ~~tripple~~ double jeopardy between friends?

Acquitted in state court, retried in federal court which provides an exception to double jeopardy, 16 years later, after DNA evidence that wasn’t testable in 1989 proved incontrovertibly that he was guilty.

> **[Double Jeopardy Clause | Dual sovereignty doctrine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Jeopardy_Clause#Dual_sovereignty_doctrine)**
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> The double jeopardy clause does not generally protect a person from being prosecuted by both a state government and the United States federal government for the same act, nor does it protect a person from being prosecuted by multiple states for the same act. Because American law considers each of the state governments to be distinct from the federal government of the United States as a whole, with its own laws, court systems, and sovereignty, these parallel prosecutions are considered to be diffe...

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**Post date:** [June 7, 2026, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6100 "2026-06-07T05:54:19Z")

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Yes, that’s what I FUCKING posted.

But don’t stop trying to keep old Smapti from taking you over.

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