# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 318
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6341 "2026-06-16T01:39:26Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > They got first pick from the pizzeria basement. Kidnapped kids from Kenya? > [@Gatopescado](#): > > Fucking Idiots. And hypocrites. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6342 "2026-06-16T02:53:39Z")
[Guess who’s weaponizing the justice department!](https://www.aol.com/articles/newsom-says-justice-department-investigating-183931000.html) > [@](#): > > Washington — California Gov. Gavin Newsom said Monday that he and his wife are under investigation by the Justice Department. > > In a [video](https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/2066585778982166808?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) posted to X, Newsom said federal agents have sought to speak to his family, friends and former employees, demanded records and dug through years of documents. He accused the Justice Department under President Trump of “abusing the grand jury process.” > > “Donald Trump isn’t just coming after me because of my mean tweets,” Newsom said. “He’s coming after me because I’m considering running for president, because he hates that I consistently called him out over and over again for his lies and deceit. Donald Trump is simply the most corrupt president in American history.” > > Newsom cited other perceived political enemies of Mr. Trump, including New York Attorney General Letitia James, former FBI Director James Comey and former Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, who have been investigated by the Justice Department. The governor said he has joined the president’s “hit list.” > > Today, my wife & I joined Donald Trump’s hit list. He has directed his Department of Justice to investigate us. They have not found a crime - they are simply trying to find one. > > He isn’t coming after me because of mean tweets, but because I am considering running for President.… [pic.twitter.com/tVYk3WUvO8](https://t.co/tVYk3WUvO8?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) > > — Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) [June 15, 2026](https://x.com/GavinNewsom/status/2066585778982166808?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw?ftag=YHF4eb9d17) > > “After calling for my arrest last year, Donald Trump directed his Department of Justice to investigate me, and just in the last week I’ve learned that his campaign has reached my own home. To get me, he’s coming after my wife,” the California governor said. Let’s discuss the insult against Michelle Obama. [First, Hokit likes to call Black women men.](https://www.aol.com/articles/ufc-fighter-josh-hokit-insults-031826000.html) > [@](#): > > Hokit, who goes by “The Incredible Hok,” is known for his crazy antics and offensive persona in the sport, and this is far from his first controversy. > > Following a victory at UFC 324 in January 2026, Hokit sparked backlash when he ended a post-fight interview by claiming that WNBA star [Brittney Griner “is a man,”](https://www.on3.com/pro/news/josh-hokit-sparks-controversy-with-post-fight-insult-of-brittney-griner-after-ufc-324-victory/?utm_source=chatgpt.com) which UFC CEO Dana White later said he did not support. [Next, Dana White does nothing about the insult against Ms. Obama.](https://www.aol.com/articles/dana-white-addresses-ufc-fighters-160549000.html) > [@](#): > > Dana White, the UFC’s CEO, distanced himself from a fighter’s [disparaging remark about Michelle Obama](https://www.aol.com/sports/josh-hokits-michelle-obama-ufc-032400455.html). > > Josh Hokit, during a post-fight interview at the UFC’s event at the White House, said, "…Michelle Obama is a man! Am I right, America?‘’ > > In a text to TIME magazine, White said, “I understand that the Obama’s are public figures but I’m completely against saying nasty and false things about people’s families. Everyone knows my position on free speech but I hate that kind of nonsense.” And why would he? (Same link.) > [@](#): > > White has never publicly disciplined fighters for the use of slurs or derogatory language while prioritizing "free speech.‘’ > > That includes remarks from Bryce Mitchell, a fighter who during a podcast in January 2025 said Hitler was “a good guy.” > > Mitchell also said Hitler "fought for his country,‘’ denied the Holocaust occurred and lashed out at Jewish and LGBTQ+ communities. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6343 "2026-06-16T04:04:55Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > And Trump is throwing Vance under the bus as we’ve reached the “He throws a temper tantrum when the media accurately reports the terms of the agreement and tears it up” stage of negotiations. I heard on the radio (BBC, I think) that there will be a signing ceremony, but the memorandum has already been electronically signed. Electronically signed; is that anything like an autopen? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6344 "2026-06-16T04:17:16Z")
> [@](#): > > That includes remarks from Bryce Mitchell, a fighter who during a podcast in January 2025 said Hitler was “a good guy.” > > Mitchell also said Hitler "fought for his country,‘’ denied the Holocaust occurred and lashed out at Jewish and LGBTQ+ communities. Bryce is also a Biblical literalist, YEC, flat Earther that almost certainly thinks that Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a on a donkey, a colt, and a T. rex and chased the money lenders out of the Temple with an AR. Sadly, at this time it cannot be determined if this is because of sports-related traumatic brain injury or because Bryce just never was quite right in the head. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6345 "2026-06-16T09:31:14Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > In a text to TIME magazine, White said, “I understand that the Obama’s are public figures […] Is the Dana White quoted by **Monty** using the genitive as plural? Why does he do that? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6346 "2026-06-16T12:04:06Z")
I’d love to say he is just particularly stupid, but it’s a common grammatical error. And not an especially egregious error compared to more common ones ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6347 "2026-06-16T12:24:29Z")
So it is not a new way to insult people one has to be aware of or that I could commit in error? That is nice to know. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6348 "2026-06-16T12:31:12Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > So it is not a new way to insult people one has to be aware of or that I could commit in error? Not as far as I know. It’s an extremely common error in usage. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6349 "2026-06-16T12:45:02Z")
Who knows? In a few decades, it may even become acceptable usage, much like ‘less’ almost entirely replacing ‘fewer’ in recent years. We don’t have an Academy for English usage (and both the UK and US have historically been rather against strict prescriptivism). ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6350 "2026-06-16T13:13:49Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > We don’t have an Academy for English usage (and both the UK and US have historically been rather against strict prescriptivism). Well, yeah. We’re not _French_. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6351 "2026-06-16T13:20:56Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > I don’t for a second believe anyone perpetuating this rumor seriously believes Michelle Obama is not biologically a woman I’m not telling this story to dispute your point, necessarily-- this example may be an outlier. At least, I hope it is. But I’m sharing it as a symptom of how weirdly widespread and persistent these BS right-wing rumors are, even among demographics you wouldn’t normally expect. My wife and I were in downtown Detroit a few months ago, waiting on the QLine (a streeetcar that runs up and down Woodward Ave.). We struck up a conversation with a Black woman in her 60s who was a retired nurse. She was really nice and we were enjoying talking to her at first. Then she told us she was a strong trump supporter (I think she assumed we were, too, at first). We were kind of taken by surprise, and sort of gently tried to sound her out, without being confrontational, as to why she liked him. She said her whole family thinks she’s crazy for supporting trump, but she thinks trump was good for Black people for reasons I don’t quite remember specifically, except that they were the same false talking points echoed by other trump supporters. Then she dropped the bomb that she not only didn’t think Obama was a good President, but that Michelle was a trans man. We were like “whaahh, really?” What followed was a litany of wing-nut CT stuff like “think about it-- there are no records to show that she was in a hospital actually delivering her kids”. So public figures are all supposed to publicly post hospital records proving they actually birthed the children they claim they did, apparently? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6352 "2026-06-16T13:37:28Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Is the Dana White quoted by **Monty** using the genitive as plural? Why does he do that? You know the right - they’re obsessed with other people’s genitives. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6353 "2026-06-16T13:49:58Z")
Heh, awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6354 "2026-06-16T14:32:10Z")
I can’t imagine a **[national dictation competition](https://www.irishtimes.com/world/2023/06/12/france-sets-new-guinness-world-record-for-the-largest-spelling-contest-ever/)** where people willingly participate in any anglophone country\*. And not because anti-prescriptivism and not being _French_, but because the rules are despised. Furthermore, dictations are taken by hand and you would complain about cursive. > [@Gyrate](#): > > obsessed with other people’s genitives. Now I get it, thank you. \* TBH, they don’t do that in Spain or Germany either, but they/we still can write with a ballpen on paper without complaining. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6355 "2026-06-16T14:46:28Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Exactly this. The “Michelle Obama is secretly a man” rumor is a way to signal to like-minded people that you’re part of the “in group” without actually using the n-word. And you can back slap other Klan members and congratulate each other on your “cleverness” over the in-joke. (A shibboleth of sorts I suppose. I don’t for a second believe anyone perpetuating this rumor seriously believes Michelle Obama is not biologically a woman) Unfortunately, there’s any number of ways to hide your racism. A group of scout leaders I know use “Canadian” as their racist euphemism. “That part of town has too many Canadians.” Yeah, you guys aren’t fooling anyone. If you have to hide your speech, then maybe you shouldn’t be saying it. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6356 "2026-06-16T15:26:15Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > I can’t imagine a **[national dictation competition](https://www.irishtimes.com/world/2023/06/12/france-sets-new-guinness-world-record-for-the-largest-spelling-contest-ever/)** where people willingly participate in any anglophone country\*. Never heard of spelling bees? ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6357 "2026-06-16T15:28:51Z")
I thought it was a section of the NYT, like the crossword. Should I web-search it? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6358 "2026-06-16T15:55:02Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > Well, yeah. We’re not _French_. It’s one of our last redeeming qualities. [![](https://reactiongifs.com/r/daduntsh.gif) ](https://reactiongifs.com/r/daduntsh.gif) ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6359 "2026-06-16T16:12:27Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Unfortunately, there’s any number of ways to hide your racism. A group of scout leaders I know use “Canadian” as their racist euphemism. “That part of town has too many Canadians.” Yeah, you guys aren’t fooling anyone. If you have to hide your speech, then maybe you shouldn’t be saying it. Huh huh huh. Let’s go Brandon, amirite? 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6360 "2026-06-16T16:13:15Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Who knows? In a few decades, it may even become acceptable usage, much like ‘less’ almost entirely replacing ‘fewer’ in recent years. Literally. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=317) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=319)