# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 319
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6361 "2026-06-16T16:32:24Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Literally. Your just not getting it. All language’s are flexible, and only the speaker’s get to say what is valid. They’re should of never been a problem. Anymore, everyone knows what they mean, amirite? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6362 "2026-06-16T16:38:42Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Your just not getting it. All language’s are flexible, and only the speaker’s get to say what is valid. This isn’t an example of a problem with language or grammar, as what you’ve written represents the sounds of a 100% correct sentence. This is a problem of ORTHOGRAPHY. “language’s” and “languages” are pronounced identically, and the rules for distinguishing different forms of the same word are odd and inconsistent, and use a punctuation mark that has several other uses. As long as we have a writing system where homophonic syllables have multiple spellings, we’ll have this sort of error. ---
**Author:** ![MonkeysBrother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ab097/32.png) [@MonkeysBrother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeysBrother)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6363 "2026-06-16T16:41:00Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Your just not getting it. All language’s are flexible, and only the speaker’s get to say what is valid. They’re should of never been a problem. Anymore, everyone knows what they mean, amirite? 👏 ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6364 "2026-06-16T16:42:13Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > As long as we have a writing system where homophonic syllables have multiple spellings, we’ll have this sort of error But we do get good Jeopardy! questions. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6365 "2026-06-16T16:42:53Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > a 100% correct sentence It’s your language, not mine, but… really? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6366 "2026-06-16T16:44:38Z")
…yes. An apostrophe generally doesn’t change pronunciation. The words “speakers” and “speaker’s” are both pronounced the same way, which was the point. The sensibility of such a language on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6367 "2026-06-16T16:45:08Z")
It’s a very stupid system. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6368 "2026-06-16T16:49:40Z")
Are you telling me that “They’re should of never been a problem” and “Anymore” are correct? That what **Just\_Asking\_Questions** wrote > [@Dr.Drake](#): > > is a problem of ORTHOGRAPHY but apart from that grammatically correct, or am I being whooshed? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6369 "2026-06-16T16:54:28Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Your just not getting it. All language’s are flexible, and only the speaker’s get to say what is valid. They’re should of never been a problem. Anymore, everyone knows what they mean, amirite? sounds identical to You’re just not getting it. All languages are flexible, and only the speakers get to say what is valid. There should’ve never been a problem. Any more, everyone knows what they mean, am I right?" The only difference (to my ear) is that “any more” and “anymore” have a slightly different cadence, with the space representing a slight pause. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6370 "2026-06-16T16:56:33Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Are you telling me that “They’re should of never been a problem” and “Anymore” are correct? Said aloud, should of and should’ve are identical. I think that is what the good Dr is saying. I was specifically making a point about writing, rather than speaking, and I should of been clearer. 😉 The “positive anymore” is regional. The first time I heard it I was like “what??” It still sounds wrong, but it is gaining acceptance. To me, it’s bizarre and wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6371 "2026-06-16T16:58:21Z")
OK, got that too, sorry it took a while. Back to the Clusterfuck. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6372 "2026-06-16T17:06:17Z")
Ok, clusterfuck it is! My idiot congressman, Andy Biggs (R, Trump’s butt), had a FB post about the rasslin’ spectacle, and was bragging up that some rando AZ resident won (it was fixed, wasn’t it?) something. The clusterfuck part is he obviously hired a bunch of trolls/drones to agree. It was like a circle jerk more than a clusterfuck, but that’s just detail, innit? I follow his FB, and rarely have I ever seen that many post not just agreeing but posting stuff like “trump is the greatest president EVER” and “this event brought pride\* to our country.” And lots of personal attacks were made on us blue types. It was weird. I think Andy actually fancies himself as trump’s “good son”. He must have daddy issues. The amount of butt kissing he does is cabinet-level, North Korea level. \*sweaty half naked guys up close and grabbing each other? hey, they said it, not me! ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6373 "2026-06-16T17:35:58Z")
> [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](#): > > Unfortunately, there’s any number of ways to hide your racism. A group of scout leaders I know use “Canadian” as their racist euphemism. “That part of town has too many Canadians.” Yeah, you guys aren’t fooling anyone. If you have to hide your speech, then maybe you shouldn’t be saying it. QFT. As a former Scout and current Scout leader myself (for the past 20+ years), I would have no problem calling them out. Something like, “What part of the Scout law does that kind of talk exemplify?” ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6374 "2026-06-16T17:47:56Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > They’re should of never been a problem. You mispelled “porbelm”. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6375 "2026-06-16T17:50:24Z")
> [@Dr.Drake](#): > > This is a problem of ORTHOGRAPHY. “language’s” and “languages” are pronounced identically, and the rules for distinguishing different forms of the same word are odd and inconsistent, and use a punctuation mark that has several other uses. Heh. I once wrote a comic with one character freaking out at another character for using such words improperly. A third character broke the third wall by observing that it was kind of scary that he could hear apostrophes. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6376 "2026-06-16T18:17:50Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > …yes. An apostrophe generally doesn’t change pronunciation. I’ve been waiting for an opportunity to post this: [![](https://i.imgur.com/oiivCWk.jpeg) ](https://i.imgur.com/oiivCWk.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6377 "2026-06-16T19:01:14Z")
Are you sure God doesn’t kill a kitten? [![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51185721049_8b5eea0484_z.jpg) ](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51185721049_8b5eea0484_z.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6378 "2026-06-16T19:04:43Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > I think Andy actually fancies himself as trump’s “good son”. He must have daddy issues. The amount of butt kissing he does is cabinet-level, North Korea level. The guy wants to be governor, and David Schweikert looks more like “a governor from Central Casting”, so Biggs has some space to make up in the race for that all-important MAGA endorsement. See: Paxton, Ken. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6379 "2026-06-16T19:05:43Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > I’ve been waiting for an opportunity to post this: Its a terrible thing to see when apostrophes are incorrectly used (or not used) in any case. English grammar does have it’s quirks, but the rules arent that difficult to learn. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2026, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6380 "2026-06-16T19:21:32Z")
Yes, they are. Is it “Teachers’ Union” or “Teachers Union”? Traditional grammar would insist on the former, but the latter is almost universal now, on the shaky logic that it’s not literal possession, or by analogy with “teacher parking space \> teachers parking spaces.” “Kids’ menu” is almost never used; “kids menu” instead. So we have one technical rule that people only bother with in formal writing (s’ for plural), and one parallel rule we mostly do follow (’s for singular). So we have a rule that we apply 80% of the time (singular) and 20% of the time (plural, numbers courtesy of my butt). How can anyone learn to get it right when the rules are inconsistent and in flux? Edit: while I can’t blame this on Trump policies, his administration’s support for formal education isn’t going to help. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=318) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=320)