# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/621 "2025-12-15T15:19:28Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > > [@aurora\_maire](#): > > > > Sorry, I was talking about “Hate, hate, hate. Double hate. Loathe entirely.” > > Specifically it is from the Jim Carey live-action version where he is going through the Whoville phone book. I still have no idea why the fucking White House thinks it’s a good idea to compare themselves favorably to the Grinch. It’s like they don’t realize he’s supposed to be the bad guy. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/622 "2025-12-15T15:30:21Z")
America loves a reformed sinner. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/623 "2025-12-15T15:31:02Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I still have no idea why the fucking White House thinks it’s a good idea to compare themselves favorably to the Grinch. It’s like they don’t realize he’s supposed to be the bad guy. The same reason they’ve compared Trump to Darth Vader and Thanos. ---
**Author:** ![SunUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SunUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SunUp)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/624 "2025-12-15T16:01:46Z")
> [@robby](#): > > It’s like they don’t realize he’s supposed to be the bad guy. Normally I would say that subtext is lost on them, but this isn’t that. It’s just text. Plain as the nose on your face. But I am reminded of: > …the soldier is not only a man fighting in accordance with the rules of the art of war, but also the ruthless standard bearer of a national conception and the avenger of bestialities which have been inflicted upon German and racially related nations. For this reason the soldier must learn fully to appreciate the necessity for the severe but just retribution that must be meted out to the subhuman species of Jewry. The [Severity Order](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severity_Order) issued by a German general (and endorsed by his superior) on the Eastern front in 1941, basically giving those troops the excuse - nay, impressing upon them the necessity - to be utterly cruel to anyone and everyone in occupied Russia. Also, much like the various morale-boosting efforts aimed at ICE agents, attempting to get them to put away their moral scruples by telling them they are doing important and valuable work and the people they are acting against are dangers to everything they hold dear. As Orwell might say, “Cruelty is kindness.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/625 "2025-12-15T16:28:27Z")
> [@SunUp](#): > > As Orwell might say, “Cruelty is kindness.” I thought that was [Nick Lowe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vo4lNb0w48). ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/626 "2025-12-15T16:29:59Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > (Sorry, gonna be that “Actually” guy) I missed that @aurora_maire was asking about the “title” in the image, not the text of the Truth Social post. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/627 "2025-12-15T16:31:24Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’ll have an Italian sub with extra pepperoni, hot peppers, and plenty of oil and vinegar. I’m pretty sure if you order that these days, you’re automatically deported to Switzerland, or something. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/628 "2025-12-15T16:41:38Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Specifically it is from the Jim Carey live-action version where he is going through the Whoville phone book And of course, it’s entirely on point that the Republicans are quoting the movie version, which distorted the whole story, completely missing the point of the original book/TV show. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/629 "2025-12-15T17:41:22Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I thought that was [Nick Lowe](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Vo4lNb0w48). Only in the right measure. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/630 "2025-12-15T19:44:13Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I still have no idea why the fucking White House thinks it’s a good idea to compare themselves favorably to the Grinch. It’s like they don’t realize he’s supposed to be the bad guy. The Right has inverted morality; good is evil, evil is good to them. Compassion is a sin, greed is good. Consensual sex is bad, rape is good. Facts are bad, lies are good. So characters like the Grinch (or Hitler) are heroic to them. If they have any problems with the Grinch, it’ll be that he turned nice in the end instead of just murdering all the Whos out of hand. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/631 "2025-12-15T20:05:03Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The Right has inverted morality; good is evil, evil is good to them. Compassion is a sin, greed is good. Consensual sex is bad, rape is good. Facts are bad, lies are good. Let’s face it, Jesus and Christianity are woke. He could have been rich and he chose not to be. How dumb is that? He would never have made a good Republican. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/632 "2025-12-15T20:06:18Z")
Trump is gloating about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. [![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/bafkreidw2d3msgpr5qmhbhi5upgsxy4q465cdmp74kn337ynxria7gkvoa@jpeg) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/bafkreidw2d3msgpr5qmhbhi5upgsxy4q465cdmp74kn337ynxria7gkvoa@jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/633 "2025-12-15T20:15:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Let’s face it, Jesus and Christianity are woke. He could have been rich and he chose not to be. How dumb is that? He would never have made a good Republican. Well, yes; people have pointed out for years that as much as the Republicans like to talk up being Christian, they’d have despised the actual person and everything he did & said. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/634 "2025-12-15T20:19:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump is gloating about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. That’s written far too well for it to have come from the felon himself. Which means he has flacks writing this crap for him. He’s basically a zombie now. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/635 "2025-12-15T20:28:33Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > That’s written far too well for it to have come from the felon himself. Reading that, I believe you. > [@Monty](#): > > Which means he has flacks writing this crap for him. This is bad. I mean, read the text. They are willing to do what they imagine he would want to say, and they come up with _this_? > [@Monty](#): > > He’s basically a zombie now. So the real assholes can act anonymously now and hide behind the orange screen and perform their worst instincts and fantasies? This is not going to end well. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/636 "2025-12-15T20:37:24Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > If they have any problems with the Grinch, it’ll be that he turned nice in the end instead of just murdering all the Whos out of hand. Does this mean we can say “Happy holidays” again? ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/637 "2025-12-15T21:34:11Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > That’s written far too well for it to have come from the felon himself. Which means he has flacks writing this crap for him. I can believe that with some of his other posts (there was one just the other day that I assumed was ghost written), but this? If this was ghost written, entirely without Trump’s input, then I can only conclude that the person behind it is actively trying to sabotage Trump now. This post is so far outside the bounds of decency that anyone with even a shred of common sense, even if they’re fundamentally an evil person who thinks that decency is a weakness that only losers care about, would realize that it’s likely to blow up in their face. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/638 "2025-12-15T21:49:53Z")
So, written by Vance? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/639 "2025-12-15T21:54:11Z")
If you told me they had him speak his mind, fed it into some AI bot with a prompt to make it sound like Trump but with better grammar and fewer misspellings, and posted the resulting garbage, I could believe it. I’d only be surprised they didn’t try it earlier ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/640 "2025-12-15T22:26:14Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > If this was ghost written, entirely without Trump’s input, Sometimes he dictates his posts. Apparently, some get cleaned up better than others. > [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=33)