# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 33
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/641 "2025-12-15T22:37:32Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump is gloating about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. Jesus Fuck. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/642 "2025-12-15T22:43:08Z")
He’s doubling down, because the part of his brain that used to tell him not to say the first thing that floats into his stream of consciousness has turned to pudding. > “Well, I wasn’t a fan of his at all,” Trump insisted. “He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned. In fact, it’s the exact opposite that I was a friend of Russia controlled by Russia. You know, the Russia hoax.” > > “I think he hurt himself career-wise,” he continued. “He became like a deranged person, Trump derangement syndrome. So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all in any way, shape, or form. I thought it was very bad for our country.” > **['Deranged!' Trump rips Rob Reiner as 'bad for our country' as he doubles down...](https://www.rawstory.com/rob-reiner-trump-2674401683/)** > > President Donald Trump refused to backtrack on his criticism of Rob Reiner following the Hollywood director's killing.During an Oval Office event on Monday, one reporter told Trump that some Republicans had condemned him for attacking Reiner after... ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/643 "2025-12-15T22:44:07Z")
Yup, he just doubled down on the garbage. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/644 "2025-12-15T22:44:25Z")
But god forbid anybody criticize Charlie Kirk. ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanubv.2/32/3260_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUBv.2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUBv.2)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/645 "2025-12-15T22:44:28Z")
Ninja! ---
**Author:** ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/646 "2025-12-15T22:54:49Z")
I guess he forgot he already did this nine months ago… > [@The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-1/1010068/3121): > > Mad King Donald declares that fentanyl is a WMD. [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-sign-executive-order-classifying-fentanyl-weapon-mass-2025-12-15/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-will-sign-executive-order-classifying-fentanyl-weapon-mass-2025-12-15/) ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2025, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/647 "2025-12-15T23:07:10Z")
Hospitals and surgery centers will be attacked by the US military. Any patients in there at the time will be “acceptable losses” in our forever war on drugs. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/648 "2025-12-16T02:17:13Z")
> [@Wheelz](#): > > But god forbid anybody criticize Charlie Kirk.. God forbid anyone actually quote the actual words that Charlie Kirk said. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/649 "2025-12-16T03:01:14Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > He’s basically a zombie now. He frequently reminds me of this exchange: > **Spock:** Captain, the speech follows no logical pattern. > **Kirk:** Random sentences strung together. > **McCoy:** He looks drugged, Jim. Almost at a cataleptic state. > –_Star Trek The Original Series_, “Patterns of Force” ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/650 "2025-12-16T05:11:41Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > He frequently reminds me of this exchange: The felon thinks he’s Garth of Izar. And, I wouldn’t be surprised if he developed shapeshifting abilities, as slippery as he’s been. [White House Ballroom Boondoggle is now classified information, so you better not whine about it.](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-administration-says-white-house-222819405.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration said in a court filing Monday that the president’s [White House ballroom](https://apnews.com/article/trump-ballroom-east-wing-white-house-844ddefd00c2323cf9419e5ba9635daf) construction project must continue for unexplained national security reasons and because a preservationists’ organization that wants it stopped has no standing to sue. > > The filing was in response to a lawsuit filed last Friday by the [National Trust for Historic Preservation](https://apnews.com/article/trump-white-house-ballroom-sued-preservationists-76dc3bbea28257e79f8becd487d2c4d7) asking a federal judge to halt President Donald Trump’s project until it goes through multiple independent reviews and a public comment period and wins approval from Congress. > > The administration’s 36-page filing included a declaration from Matthew C. Quinn, deputy director of the U.S. Secret Service, the agency responsible for the security of the president and other high-ranking officials, that said more work on the site of the former [White House East Wing](https://apnews.com/article/trump-ballroom-white-house-east-wing-mclaurin-f3ca84b49843b3eb3c14ad6d48f117c3) is still needed to meet the agency’s “safety and security requirements.” The filing did not explain the specific national security concerns; the administration has offered to share classified details with the judge in a private, in-person setting without the plaintiffs present. That’s some amazing assertion, given there’s no freaking plan for the damn ballroom. > [@](#): > > The filings assert that final plans for the ballroom have yet to be finalized despite the continuing demolition and other work to prepare the site for eventual construction. Anyway, in what world outside of _Spy vs. Spy_ or _Get Smart_ is a _ballroom_, for God’s sake, a national security issue? [And, of course, the felon just loves to attack the dead.](https://www.aol.com/articles/bad-country-trump-doubles-down-215142860.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON ‒ [President Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/) doubled down on his [widely criticized attack](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/trump-slams-rob-reiner-death-154109791.html) of the late film director Rob Reiner, expressing no regret nor offering an apology for comments [that even some Republican supporters](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/conservatives-condemn-trumps-disgusting-rob-204546555.html) have since denounced. > > “I thought he was very bad for our country,” Trump said on Dec. 15 when asked whether he stands by his social media post about Reiner from earlier in the day. [Damn, and now Marjorie Taylor Greene is the voice of reason.](https://www.aol.com/articles/marjorie-taylor-greene-blasts-trump-200806417.html) > [@](#): > > ontroversial Georgia lawmaker Marjorie Taylor Greene lashed out at [Donald Trump](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/donald-trump/)on Monday, Dec. 15, over [the president’s shocking social media post](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/trump-slams-rob-reiner-death-154109791.html)about the death of slain director and actor Rob Reiner. > > Reiner, 78, was killed alongside his wife, Michele Singer, in their Los Angeles home just one day earlier on Dec. 14, according to police. > > “This is a family tragedy, not about politics or political enemies,” Greene, a Republican state representative and long-time Trump ally, wrote in a separate post on X. [I just might have to join forces with the felon on getting rid of the Department of Education.](https://www.aol.com/news/flag-linked-christian-nationalism-jan-215650906.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON – A top official at the [U.S. Department of Education](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/clock-ticking-trumps-education-department-205632099.html) has been keeping a [controversial flag](https://globalextremism.org/global-extremist-symbols-database/) linked to [Christian nationalism](https://www.usatoday.com/web-stories/what-is-christian-nationalism/) and the [Jan. 6 insurrection](https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/politics/2022/01/03/jan-6-insurrection-photos-capitol-riot/9052798002/) hung outside his office, according to the agency’s union and a department employee who has observed it. > > It’s the latest in a series of instances in which the flag – which depicts a pine tree and the words “An Appeal to Heaven” – has been associated with agencies and figures at the highest levels of the federal government. > > Though long tied to the [American Revolution](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/youre-hear-lot-americas-250th-121625101.html), the banner in more recent years “has been adopted primarily by evangelical Christian nationalist groups,” as well as the Proud Boys and certain neo-Nazi groups, according to the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism, an independent nonprofit organization. It was flown in 2021 by rioters at the U.S. Capitol as they tried to prevent Congress from certifying the 2020 presidential election results. > > The symbol’s emergence at the agency responsible for overseeing [billions of dollars in federal funding](https://www.yahoo.com/news/billions-federal-funding-schools-hold-155654383.html) for the nation’s schools is already raising concerns about the [separation of church and state](https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-leaders-calling-religion-public-090742427.html). Getting rid of the department gives these cretins one less platform for their hateful and unconstitutional agenda. [War Criminal Hegseth kills another eight people.](https://www.aol.com/articles/us-military-says-strikes-3-025351944.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military said Monday that it attacked three boats accused of smuggling drugs in the eastern Pacific Ocean, killing a total of eight people as scrutiny over the boat strikes is intensifying in Congress. > > The military said in a statement on social media that the strikes targeted “designated terrorist organizations,” killing three people in the first vessel, two in the second boat and three in the third boat. It didn’t provide evidence of their alleged drug trafficking but posted a video of a boat moving through water before exploding. Oh, that’s okay then. There’s an exciting video of people getting blown to smithereens. That must mean everything was right and proper. [The felon accuses Governor Polis of working for Tred de Aragua.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-launches-scathing-baseless-attack-222108161.html) > [@](#): > > President **Donald Trump** launched into a scathing and baseless attack against Colorado Gov. **Jared Polis** (D) on Monday, accusing him of being “run by Tren de Aragua” – the Venezuelan gang Trump has labeled a terrorist organization. Of course, there is no evidence or regular accusation that Polis is in any way connected with the gang. & > [@](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > And last month, we seized another 1.7 million fentanyl pills in the state of Colorado, the poorly run state of Colorado, with a governor who’s incompetent and, frankly, with a governor that won’t allow our wonderful Tina to come out of a jail—in a high-intensity jail—because she caught people cheating on an election, and they said she was cheating. She wasn’t cheating. She went over. She looked at one of the election scams going on, and because she did that, they put her in jail for nine years. > > > > The governor of Colorado is a weak and a pathetic man who was run by Tren de Aragua. The criminals from Venezuela took over sections of Colorado, and he was afraid to do anything. But he puts Tina in jail for nine years because she caught people cheating. And when she walked over and got involved in it, they said she was cheating. She wasn’t cheating. She caught people cheating on the election—2020—along with a lot of other people that cheated on that election. You’ll see that coming out more and more. Yep. He’s upset his acolyte Peters is not getting pardoned for committing election fraud on his behalf. [Let’s see if the felon does China’s bidding and deports Guan Heng](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/chinese-man-documented-alleged-uyghur-174806245.html). > [@](#): > > A Chinese man who left his country after filming at sites of alleged human rights violations against Uyghurs now faces the risk of removal from the United States, his lawyer and mother told AFP. > > Guan Heng, 38, underwent an immigration hearing in New York on Monday after being detained by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) in August, his mother said in an interview. > > The case could see him taken out of the United States and potentially landing back in China. > > “I’m really, really worried that things will be very bad for him if he is made to return,” Guan’s mother, Luo Yun, told AFP in Chinese. > > “If he has a chance to remain in the United States, he’ll at least be safe,” she said. “I’m incredibly anxious and upset.” > > On Monday, the session ended with a next hearing date set for January, said Guan’s lawyer, Chen Chuangchuang. He noted that Guan had been detained over illegal entry into the country, but was seeking asylum. How many times does the felon and his flock of fools have to be reminded: one of the legal ways to remain in the country is to enter without visa and apply for asylum. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/651 "2025-12-16T07:10:03Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump is gloating about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. Good lord. That man is completely unhinged. His family - even as little as they care for him - should have him medically boarded. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/652 "2025-12-16T07:13:29Z")
Nope. The damned Cabinet should avail itself of [Section 4 of the 25th Amendment to the United States constitution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_4:_Declaration_by_vice_president_and_cabinet_members_of_president's_inability). > [@](#): > > Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President. > > Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department [_[sic](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic)_][[note 2]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#cite_note-8)[[7]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#cite_note-9) or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/653 "2025-12-16T12:08:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Nope. The damned Cabinet should avail itself of [Section 4 of the 25th Amendment to the United States constitution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-fifth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Section_4:_Declaration_by_vice_president_and_cabinet_members_of_president's_inability). Come on, you don’t think that band of lickspittles and sycophants is going to come anywhere close to 25th Amendmenting him. Not even if he had a debilitating stroke. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/654 "2025-12-16T12:27:35Z")
Hell, I don’t think they’ll accept the fact of it if he dies in office. I was just saying what they _should_, not what they _will_, do. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/655 "2025-12-16T12:29:50Z")
Seriously. There are no adults in the room. Everyone, for your own sanity, recognize this and abandon any pipe dreams. There is only a slim Republican majority, and at other times a slim Democratic majority. Until the end. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/656 "2025-12-16T13:58:35Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Anyway, in what world outside of _Spy vs. Spy_ or _Get Smart_ is a _ballroom_, for God’s sake, a national security issue? Well I imagine there are probably some serious security issues that need to be resolved after some damn fool knocked down the East wing of the white house and left a gaping hole. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/657 "2025-12-16T14:39:15Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Damn, and now Marjorie Taylor Greene is the voice of reason. Words I never thought I’d see strung together in one statement. _[Glances out the window to see if the Four Horsemen are galloping across the sky…]_ * * * * * * > [@Monty](#): > > > President **Donald Trump** launched into a scathing and baseless attack against Colorado Gov. **Jared Polis** (D) on Monday, accusing him of being “run by Tren de Aragua” – the Venezuelan gang Trump has labeled a terrorist organization. Does trump believe this gives him license to shoot and kill the Governor? Preferably in the middle of Fifth Avenue? I wouldn’t be at all surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/section_maker_jupe/32/1424_2.png) [@Section\_Maker\_Jupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Section_Maker_Jupe)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/658 "2025-12-16T16:09:57Z")
Interesting interview from Susie Wiles > **[Trump chief of staff Susie Wiles says president ‘has an alcoholic’s...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/16/politics/susie-wiles-interview-trump)** > > The White House chief of staff, Susie Wiles, delivered a series of unusually candid and at times unflattering assessments of President Donald Trump, his second-term agenda and some of his closest allies in a series of wide-ranging interviews with... ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/659 "2025-12-16T16:15:20Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Does trump believe this gives him license to shoot and kill the Governor? Preferably in the middle of Fifth Avenue? I wouldn’t be at all surprised. He’s a malignant narcissist. Trump thinks that the fact that he’s Trump - the sole meaning & purpose for the existence of the universe - gives him the right to do _anything_ and be praised for it. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/660 "2025-12-16T16:47:42Z")
a. Wow. That’s a compelling read; b. If true (and _not_ taken materially out of context), it’s pretty staggering – if totally unsurprising – stuff; c. Given the above caveat … I wonder if a feeling is starting to materialize in certain dark corners of MAGA, the GOP, the Manosphere, and the Trump Inner Sanctum that he’s genuinely vulnerable, and if what we’re seeing is basically trial balloons lofted by those insiders who are wondering what the next lines on their CVs might be. Bob Woodward took Trump interviews “out of context,” too – that is, until you actually listened to the tapes (which thoroughly exonerated Woodward and corroborated his accounts). Rats? Sinking ship?? Hm. Whomst can say… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=32) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=34)