# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 330
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6581 "2026-06-22T04:16:59Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Time was a senile old man shouting about imaginary vandals was a sign to take the keys away and call the nice folks from the rest home. Imaginary _other_ vandals. > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > These days, it’s apparently a sign of genius Only stable ones. The felon might want to dial back those threats of killing negotiaters. Someone might get ideas such as moving the venue to Fidenae. [The felon doesn’t even know who his own daugher is…or is not!](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-baffles-internet-picture-woman-141354000.html) > [@](#): > > [President Donald Trump](https://www.aol.com/news/trump-administration-angry-netanyahu-won-095357721.html) confused the Internet ahead of Father’s Day by sharing an image of a blonde woman along with the message [“great daughter,”](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html)but no one knows who she is. > > Social media users were left scratching their heads over the image of the mysterious woman sitting on a couch in what seemed like a scene from the 1980s or 1990s when Trump, 80, shared on [Truth Social](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116785607752936424) Saturday night. > > Along with the image of the unidentified woman, Trump wrote: “Great daughter, My Honor!!! President DJT.” > [@CalMeacham](#): > > I was at a party this weekend and brought along a special drink I made – vanilla milk tinted a sickly green, poured into clear plastic cups that had the bottom lined with blue decorating frosting. > > I called it “The Reflecting Pool” I like it! But maybe this modification won’t put people off. use blue Jell-O powder or blue Curaçao syrup on the bottom, pour in a clear soda, then put in green M&Ms. Maybe crunch up a few blue ones to have the floating paint chip vibe. [Second fiddle/third wheel veep treated like he’s supposed to be at the kiddies’ table.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/grimacing-vance-snubbed-diplomats-iran-194938823.html) > [@](#): > > JD Vance’s push for diplomacy got off to an awkward start when he appeared to be snubbed by a fellow summit attendee in Switzerland. > > Vance, 41, was [joined by Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-says-jet-setting-goons-132226431.html) for the negotiations at the Lake Lucerne Summit with Iran on Sunday, mediated by Pakistan and attended by the interested party, Qatar. > > Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani kicked off Vance’s awkward day by appearing to walk right past him upon arrival. And my favorite part of that article is this. > [@](#): > > With the vice president positioned at the front of the receiving line, Sheikh Mohammed appeared to pass him over entirely, instead greeting the Iranian and Pakistani diplomats with hugs and kisses. > > A video appears to show Vance reaching out to get Sheikh Mohammed’s attention, only to receive what looked like a brief acknowledgment before the Qatari leader turned away. Along with this tie. > [@](#): > > While the U.S. trio and Qatari ministers spoke to the press following the meeting, [Axios](https://www.axios.com/2026/06/20/vance-iran-talks-switzerland) reports that Iranian foreign minister Abbas Araghchi was in the room, but opted not to join statements or stand for a photo with Vance. [_You think?!_](https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/former-trump-defense-secretary-don-191327513.html) (The **bolding** is mine.) > [@](#): > > Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper on Sunday said he doesn’t think “that the president is always getting good advice” from his advisers. > > “Do you trust that the president is being given advice by people who think their loyalty is to the Constitution?” NBC News’s Garrett Haake asked Esper — who served in President Trump’s first term — during Esper’s appearance on “Meet the Press.” > > **“I don’t see that the president is always getting good advice, and so I think that’s the question to ask. I think Republicans on Capitol Hill have asked that same question, ‘Is the president getting the best advice with regard to these strategic matters?’” Esper responded.** ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6582 "2026-06-22T04:43:20Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > What’s the President’s domestic agenda? > > Fixing a pool. > > And building a ballroom. The dementia is causing him to regress. In his head it’s 1985 and he’s the hottest name in east coast real estate, and this next big project is what’s FINALLY going to earn the respect of the Old Money and get his dad to tell him he’s proud of him. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6583 "2026-06-22T05:34:56Z")
Gilding the lions. From Rachel Maddow The report explained that the administration recently approved a $5 million no-bid contract to a gilding studio in Maryland to apply gold-toned coating to “four massive bronze horses positioned along the roads surrounding the Lincoln Memorial.” ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6584 "2026-06-22T07:00:18Z")
The poor horses now look just like his make-up. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6585 "2026-06-22T07:33:14Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > “I don’t see that the president is always getting good advice, and so I think that’s the question to ask. I think Republicans on Capitol Hill have asked that same question, ‘Is the president getting the best advice with regard to these strategic matters?’” Esper responded. (quoted from @Monty’s link) Well, that’s the problem with being so fuckin’ smart, isn’t it? Trump is supposed to know when he’s getting bad advice and he’s supposed to hire people who won’t give him bad advice in the first place. It’s almost like he’s actually a FUCKIN’ MORON instead. They hand him a _landmine_ and he uses it as a _suppository_. Whose fault is that? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6586 "2026-06-22T08:07:37Z")
What? You don’t actually think he _listens_ to anyone, do you now? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6587 "2026-06-22T08:29:00Z")
> **[Good tsar, bad boyars](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_tsar,_bad_boyars)** > > "Good tsar, bad boyars" (Russian: Царь хороший, бояре плохие, romanized: Carʹ xoróšij, bojáre ploxíje \[t͡sarʲ xɐˈroʂɨj | bɐˈjærʲe pɫɐˈxʲije\]), sometimes also known as naïve monarchism, is a Russian phrase referring to a political phenomenon in which positive actions taken by the government are viewed as being the result of the leader, while negative actions taken by the government are viewed as being caused by lower-level bureaucrats unbeknownst to the leader. Originating from the Russian Empir... ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6588 "2026-06-22T09:18:50Z")
> [@John Wilmot - Earl of Rochester 1647-1680](#): > > We have a pretty witty king, > Whose word no man relies on. > He never said a foolish thing, > And never did a wise one And yea verily and forsooth 45/47 lags behind even Charles II. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6589 "2026-06-22T10:32:06Z")
> [@penultima\_thule](#): > > Charles II I somehow like the **[reference](https://youtu.be/dBPf6P332uM?list=RDdBPf6P332uM&t=40)** to Charles I better: Charles I of England was five foot six inches tall at the start of his reign, but only four foot eight inches tall at the end of it. How tall does 45/47 = .9574 claim to be? ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6590 "2026-06-22T10:51:18Z")
Yeah, well methinks we can all do so better than making some sort of martyr of him. My preference is for an ignominious exit stage left in at the hands of a ballot box in a monumental landslide but that requires the assistance of around 50 million Americans. ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6591 "2026-06-22T11:19:10Z")
> While Vance was meeting with Iranian diplomats, Trump warned the delegation against keeping the Strait of Hormuz closed. > > “You close it, and you won’t have a country,” [Trump said on Fox News](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jun/22/trump-administration-latest-updates-today). “You won’t even make it back to your fucking country.” > > Negotiators [walked out in protest](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/21/us-iran-talks-jd-vance-switzerland-strait-of-hormuz-lebanon), and Stengel said they had every reason to. > > “If there is one taboo in the history of diplomacy going back to the Peloponnesian War, is you do not threaten envoys, no matter how opposed you are,” he said. “And there he is, threatening envoys.” > **[MS NOW Analyst: Trump Just Broke Biggest 'Taboo' In Diplomatic History](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-threatens-envoys_n_6a38b9fae4b0810d441d5732?origin=home-latest-news-unit)** > > The president's warning against Iranian diplomats broke centuries of precedent. Stay classy, Donald. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6592 "2026-06-22T11:25:29Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The dementia is causing him to regress. In his head it’s 1985 and he’s the hottest name in east coast real estate, and this next big project is what’s FINALLY going to earn the respect of the Old Money and get his dad to tell him he’s proud of him. Well said. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6593 "2026-06-22T12:18:54Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Charles I of England was five foot six inches tall at the start of his reign, but only four foot eight inches tall at the end of it. Because of… Oliver Cromwell Lord Protector of England (Puritan) c’mon, everybody sing! ---
**Author:** ![Frodo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frodo/32/302_2.png) [@Frodo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frodo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6594 "2026-06-22T12:46:42Z")
You’d think the man cannot go lower anymore, but there seems to be no bottom to his imbecility. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6595 "2026-06-22T12:51:40Z")
> [@John Wilmot - Earl of Rochester 1647-1680](#): > > We have a pretty witty king, > Whose word no man relies on. > He never said a foolish thing, > And never did a wise one To which Charles II is said to have replied, _”My words are my own, and my actions are my ministers’.”_ ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6596 "2026-06-22T12:55:46Z")
For 45/47 that response is reversed i.e. my ministers actions are my words. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6597 "2026-06-22T14:50:23Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > Art of the deal my left nut. I think we need to find this guy, “Art” and fire him. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6598 "2026-06-22T16:46:57Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > But colloquially speaking, I think,In a situation were an English speaker says “Fucking xxxx” an Spanish speaker could very well say “Malditos xxxxx” so, I would respectfully submit that it’s a good translation Maybe it’s the Southern California boy in me, but I’m used to _fucking xxxx_ being rendered as _pinche xxxx_. Something tells me that _pinche rodentes_ wouldn’t have been well-received on Univision. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6599 "2026-06-22T16:58:01Z")
> [@Frodo](#): > > but there seems to be no bottom to his imbecility. I’d much rather not think about Trump’s bottom, thankyouverymuch. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2026, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/6600 "2026-06-22T17:08:51Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Qatari Prime Minister Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim bin Jaber Al Thani The more important your country is, the longer your PM’s name needs to be, I guess… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=329) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=331)