# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/681 "2025-12-17T01:18:50Z")
So…war tomorrow then? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/682 "2025-12-17T01:48:35Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I’m hoping for a solid Hour and a Half further riffing on Peruvian Snakes. That shit is _funny!_ I’ve lost track. What? > [@Smapti](#): > > Mad King Donald proclaims that he has declared Venezwayler a terrorist organization and that it is “completely surrounded by the largest armada ever assembled”, a truly impressive feat considering that it has a 3200-mile land border. Not to mention the United States has not suffered any losses of land to that particular country. But, hey, there’s a high possibility he thinks they’re connected somehow with the Panama Canal. Also, haven’t the deportation flights from the US to Venezuela been stopped by Venezuela refusing permission for them to land? ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/683 "2025-12-17T02:05:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump is gloating about the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife. trump didn’t know who Rob Reiner was two days ago. He was told he was a big-time supporter of the Dems, and he had TDS, which absolutely nobody says. He’s such a fucking bastard for taking another shot at Jimmy Carter. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/684 "2025-12-17T02:05:58Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’ve lost track. What? I like Seth’s take on it [Trump & MAGA Wage War on Christmas; Trump Tells Snake Story; Fox Says Buy a Fake Tree: A Closer Look](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XocOZgQpIX8) ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/685 "2025-12-17T02:13:04Z")
> [@Dung\_Beetle](#): > > So…war tomorrow then? Well, Armada is fightin’ words. No matter how you look at it, it’s an act of war. Yet trump doesn’t want to capture any flags and potentially deal with the fallout of his actions. He’s got the oil. His only goal now is an unconditional surrender or a false flag operation to take the country before declaration papers hit the UN. Nobody declares was anymore. Drug Terrorism. Food for the MAGAs. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/686 "2025-12-17T02:23:09Z")
Trump’s Chanukah message to American Jews; our planes are invisible but when the bomb chutes open it goes unstealth and then you can see it and I saw it happen and it went bing bing > **[Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)](https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ma5lebekxl2o)** > > Trump: "The only time anybody could see those planes was when those bomb chutes open up, because it becomes totally un-stealth. You're going in, you go like this. As soon as it goes like this, for some reason the plane is totally visible. Not good. I... ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/687 "2025-12-17T02:55:34Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump will be giving a live televised address tomorrow night. What new spore of madness will this be? [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ukr3Y3unFhg/hqdefault.jpg "Underwear Must Be Worn On The Outside") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukr3Y3unFhg) ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/688 "2025-12-17T03:00:09Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Trump’s Chanukah message to American Jews; our planes are invisible but when the bomb chutes open it goes unstealth and then you can see it and I saw it happen and it went bing bing And, that my friends, is his view of the Miracle of Chanukah. [It’s definitely past time to stop calling the US a land which honors the rule of law.](https://www.aol.com/news/federal-judge-allows-trumps-white-234907268.html) > [@](#): > > A federal judge is allowing construction of [the White House ballroom](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/white-house-brings-new-architect-trumps-sprawling-300-million-ballroom-rcna247472) to move forward, rejecting a request by the National Trust for Historic Preservation to temporarily halt President Donald Trump’s $300 million project. > > The preservation group sued the Trump administration last week in a bid to halt an expansive revamp of the White House property that’s drawn [sharp criticism from Democrats.](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/democrats-regain-white-house-trumps-ballroom-early-casualty-rcna243683)The lawsuit alleges the administration broke ground before plans were submitted to the National Capital Planning Commission and without approval from Congress, as required for construction on federal park land in Washington, D.C. > > The Trump administration told U.S. District Judge Richard Leon on Tuesday that within the next “two weeks” it expects to meet with the National Capital Planning Commission and the Commission of Fine Arts to review plans that Justice Department attorney Adam Gustafson told the court were not yet finalized. > > Tad Heuer, the national trust’s attorney, quipped that [with this administration](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/two-weeks-notice-trumps-deadline-iran-familiar-one-rcna214089), “It’s always going to happen in the next two weeks.” But, hey, at least we got to see the felon and his flacks to go on record in court with an actual deadline of _two weeks_. [Killer Kennedy has the gall to say Lyme disease patients are being gaslighted.](https://www.aol.com/articles/gaslighting-lyme-patients-over-rfk-231417478.html) > [@](#): > > Heath Secretary [Robert F. Kennedy Jr.](https://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/robert-f-kennedy-jr/) promised a renewed focus on the “diagnostic efforts” for tick-borne Lyme disease, describing it on Dec. 15 as an “invisible” illness that he claims has been ignored by previous White House administrations. > > Kennedy made the comments as he convened a roundtable of patients and medical providers. > > Just one year ago before he was confirmed as the health secretary in February, Kennedy promoted a [conspiracy theory that Lyme disease is a militarily engineered](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/bioweapons-and-lyme-disease-with-kris-newby/id1552000243?i=1000642252702) bioweapon. In 2024, Kennedy said on his podcast that it was “highly likely” that Lyme disease was developed in a military lab on Long Island, New York. > > “And we cannot say 100% for sure, but we do know that they were experimenting with ticks there,” he said. > > He was asked about his comment about it being a “bioweapon” by Democratic Senator Michael Bennet of Colorado during his confirmation hearing in January. > > “I probably did say that,” Kennedy responded. And what is it, do you suppose, got the notorious antivaxer and health care charlatan to focus on this one particular disease? Could it, just perhaps, maybe be this? > [@](#): > > Kennedy said one of his sons suffered facial paralysis for almost a year because of Lyme disease. The rest of the article covers more of his nonsense. [Mick Foley quits WWE because of its relationship with the felon.](https://www.aol.com/articles/wwe-star-mick-foley-quitting-184108553.html) > [@](#): > > WWE Hall of Famer Mick Foley says he’s severing ties with the professional wrestling company over its “close relationship” with President [Donald Trump](https://people.com/tag/donald-trump/). > > Foley, 60, announced he was “parting ways” with WWE in [a post](https://www.instagram.com/p/DSVFwQxjZmC/?hl=en) on social media on Tuesday, Dec. 16, which said [Trump’s inflammatory comments](https://people.com/donald-trump-reacts-rob-reiner-death-trump-derangement-syndrome-11868993) in the wake of [director Rob Reiner and his wife Michele Reiner’s murders](https://people.com/rob-reiner-wife-michele-were-killed-by-son-sources-11868856) were the “final straw.” > > “While I have been concerned about WWE‘s close relationship with Donald Trump for several months — especially in light of his administration’s ongoing cruel and inhumane treatment of immigrants (and pretty much anyone who “looks like an immigrant”) — reading the President’s incredibly cruel comments in the wake of Rob Reiner’s death is the final straw for me,” Foley wrote on Instagram. > > “I no longer wish to represent a company that coddles a man so seemingly void of compassion as he marches our country towards autocracy,” Foley’s post continued. “Last night, I informed [@WWE](https://www.instagram.com/WWE/?hl=en) talent relations that I would not be making any appearances for the company as long as this man remains in office. [One of these things is ~~not~~ like the others.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-expands-travel-ban-adding-200449471.html) > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration announced Tuesday it was expanding [travel restrictions to](https://apnews.com/article/trump-travel-ban-immigration-enforcement-visas-b1eb79c7b5717c96daf51e978db83d1b) an additional 20 countries and the Palestinian Authority, doubling the number of nations affected by sweeping limits announced earlier this year on who can travel and emigrate to the U.S. > > The Trump administration included five more countries as well as people traveling on documents issued by the Palestinian Authority to the list of countries facing a full ban on travel to the U.S. and imposed new limits on 15 other countries. > > The move is part of ongoing efforts by the administration to tighten U.S. entry standards for travel and immigration, in what critics say unfairly prevents travel for people from a broad range of countries. The administration suggested it would expand the restrictions after the arrest of an Afghan national suspect in the [shooting of two National Guard](https://apnews.com/article/national-guard-shooting-dc-c5785dd8920d2d1ac7d71fab769faf5f) troops over Thanksgiving weekend. & > [@](#): > > On Tuesday, the Republican administration announced it was expanding the list of countries whose citizens are banned from entering the U.S. to Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, South Sudan and Syria. What is the common denominator here? Bueller? [Great description of the felon.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/people-noticing-something-very-weird-203108677.html) > [@](#): > > On Monday, President Donald Trump [presented](https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-remarks-mexican-border-medal-presentation-december-15-2025/) Mexican Border Defense Medals to service members in the Oval Office, and one moment from the event is going viral. > > As the service members received their medals, Trump just sort of…stood there. & > [@](#): > > And a “little toddler with no friends.” By the way, this is the very first I’ve hard of the [Mexican Border Defense Medal](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Border_Defense_Medal). If I were President Sheinbaum, I’d be giving the US ambassador some severe grief over that until it’s rescinded. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/689 "2025-12-17T03:14:19Z")
Ditto. Turns out it was reactivated in August, the original being designed in 1918 to be given to troops who fruitlessly chased Pancho Villa around in his own country. I wonder if you _have_ to wear all the awards you are given. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/690 "2025-12-17T03:26:38Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And what is it, do you suppose, got the notorious antivaxer and health care charlatan to focus on this one particular disease? Could it, just perhaps, maybe be this? > > > [@](#): > > > > Kennedy said one of his sons suffered facial paralysis for almost a year because of Lyme disease. Or maybe he’s trying to court Ross Douthat for a position at HHS? (For the uninitiated: Douthat is a Trump-skeptical conservative commentator who wrote a whole book about his battle with Lyme disease, in which he credits alternative medicine for his recovery.) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/691 "2025-12-17T03:45:36Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > And, that my friends, is his view of the Miracle of Chanukah. Nobody tell him the story involves a miraculous everlasting supply of oil. We’ll NEVER hear the end of that tangent. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/692 "2025-12-17T03:52:35Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > I wonder if you _have_ to wear all the awards you are given. Depending on the uniform and the occasion, one can wear a reduced “rack” or one must wear all awards. > [@Smapti](#): > > Nobody tell him the story involves a miraculous everlasting supply of oil. We’ll NEVER hear the end of that tangent. The horror! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/693 "2025-12-17T09:45:40Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Depending on the uniform and the occasion, one can wear a reduced “rack” or one must wear all awards. Trump of course prefers enhanced racks. ---
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/694 "2025-12-17T12:58:46Z")
Trump yet again making it clear that he thinks stealth planes are actually invisible, Romulan cloaking device invisible. I imagine that sometime during his first term he was treated to a presentation by the air force wherein he got more and more agitated because he could see the planes. At which point a quick thinking officer ordered the planes to circle somewhere behind the viewing stand, out of sight but in earshot, while pointing to the empty air and describing the many amazing maneuvers the now invisible aircraft were doing. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/695 "2025-12-17T13:30:21Z")
> [@yendis](#): > > Trump yet again making it clear that he thinks stealth planes are actually invisible, Romulan cloaking device invisible. He does. HIs lack of knowledge is stunning. And bomb shutes? You mean bomb bay doors maybe? ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/696 "2025-12-17T13:35:04Z")
There’ve been a few Truth Social posts lately-- this ‘Venezuela armada’ post here, the horrible Rob Reiner post, and others-- that are odd in that they perfectly mimic trump’s rhetorical style (long single paragraphs, random capitalized words, all-caps ‘shouting’ of certain sentences, the stupid “thank you for your attention to this matter” catchphrase, and of course the gallons of spilled bile), but are otherwise grammatically sound. No childish misspellings, no mangled syntax, well constructed compound sentences. Supposedly from a guy who, speaking in public at a Christmas event just the other day, went on a 10 minute long rambling tangent about Peruvian snakes. Who is writing his TS posts for him these days, I wonder? Stephen Miller would probably be good at it, but I’m sure he has his hands full planning pogroms. Probably someone a little lower down on the totem pole. > [@Gatopescado](#): > > > [@Monty](#): > > > > I’ve lost track. What? > > I like Seth’s take on it > > [Trump & MAGA Wage War on Christmas; Trump Tells Snake Story; Fox Says Buy a Fake Tree: A Closer Look](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XocOZgQpIX8) [Kimmel had a good take on it too](https://youtu.be/2nph8GjOQPU). “He claims Peruvian snakes kill 28,000 people a year… I looked it up-- 10 deaths over the last 15 years”. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/697 "2025-12-17T13:40:39Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > You mean bomb bay doors maybe? They’re actually called “Mumbai doors” now. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/698 "2025-12-17T14:02:03Z")
At a meeting in one post, the bleached blond that follows him around with the ‘glorifying’ twitter posts is shown typing up his comments. This was some time ago as the group was watching a Harris speech. Trump was throwing out the usual crap that his mind fixates on. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/699 "2025-12-17T14:20:51Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > And bomb shutes? You mean bomb bay doors maybe? Those use the electric. His concept of a bomb shute is closely linked to the White House presidential toilet. ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/700 "2025-12-17T14:31:16Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > They’re actually called “Mumbai doors” now Nice! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=36)