# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 363
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7241 "2026-07-17T19:21:15Z")
Lil’ Marco, I have questions. Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced a U.S. diplomatic campaign to dismantle the International Criminal Court “brick by brick,” claiming the tribunal could be used to override U.S. courts and the Constitution. 1. Why now? We (US) have been ignoring the court all this time. 2. Is this “distraction” related to US war crimes committed recently and ongoing? (If you need examples; murder on the high seas, abduction and assassination of sovereign state leaders, coordinated bomb and missile attacks on foreign nations without a formal declaration of war, blocades of foreign countries based on whims and “gut” feelings, …). 3. Does this relate to the incarceration and murder of foreign nationals within the US? 4. How do you feel about invasion threats to Cuba, Canada, Greenland, Iceland​🤨, Panama, Mexico … and how these threats impact your travel and that of other US “dignitaries”? 5. How about those Epstein files? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7242 "2026-07-17T19:38:05Z")
Could be related to Netanyahu. He’s not exactly on good terms with the ICC at the moment. Though I’m sure a foreign head of government surely couldn’t have that much sway over US policy /s ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7243 "2026-07-17T21:05:25Z")
There is a bottom. _maybe_ ## [Felon’s TeleprompTer operator “on leave”](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-teleprompter-speech-bets_n_6a5920ffe4b06924e65272e3) for placing insider bets on Felonious speeches, making him upwards of $100,000 Only the best people. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7244 "2026-07-17T21:07:00Z")
His _real_ crime was not giving kickbacks to the boss /s ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7245 "2026-07-17T21:20:01Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > His _real_ crime was not giving kickbacks to the boss No “/s” needed there: this IS an observed pattern with Donald. He’s okay with grifting, but ONLY if it is done with the requisite messaging _'we may be doing well by following in your Glorious Wake, Dear Leader, but we know we owe it all to you_.’ He does love money. But in these cases it’s not so much that the criminal failed to hand him his envelope of cash—it’s the public perception that the c. **put one over on him**. It’s the image of ‘clueless loser’ that is infuriating him. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7246 "2026-07-17T21:24:13Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced a U.S. diplomatic campaign to dismantle the International Criminal Court “brick by brick,” claiming the tribunal could be used to override U.S. courts and the Constitution. Considering that the US has burned through all its diplomatic credit, good luck with that. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7247 "2026-07-17T21:45:03Z")
Dementia Donny says he’s going to tariff Canada for not raking their forests. > **[Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116936952365066409)** > > We are holding Canada responsible for the fact that they are not properly maintaining their Forests, and Brush therein, and the United States is being unnecessarily invaded by filthy, polluted, and unhealthy air, the quality of which is dangerous,... ---
**Author:** ![billy-jack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@billy-jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billy-jack)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7248 "2026-07-17T22:14:04Z")
He could just announce his own AI service soon and take a cut out of the billed “proceeds”. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7249 "2026-07-17T22:15:33Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > His _real_ crime was not giving kickbacks to the boss And only making a hundred grand. What kind of weak-ass grifting is _that?_ ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7250 "2026-07-17T22:24:30Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Dementia Donny says he’s going to tariff Canada for not raking their forests. I’m confused. I thought smoke was good; or is that only when it comes from burning coal and gasoline? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7251 "2026-07-17T22:27:08Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > There is a bottom. > > _maybe_ > > ## [Felon’s TeleprompTer operator “on leave”](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-teleprompter-speech-bets_n_6a5920ffe4b06924e65272e3) > > for placing insider bets on Felonious speeches, making him upwards of $100,000 > > Only the best people. “Ten dollar words” is not meant to be taken literally. At least, it didn’t use to be. > [@Smapti](#): > > Dementia Donny says he’s going to tariff Canada for not raking their forests. They’ll get right on that, starting with Nunavut. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7252 "2026-07-17T22:39:38Z")
Dipstick doesn’t understand that he doesn’t charge Canada tariffs, he charges Americans for buying Canadian goods. And who in the fucking world rakes their forests? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7253 "2026-07-17T22:43:45Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > And who in the fucking world rakes their forests? Back in his first term he somehow convinced himself that Scandinavian countries don’t have wildfires because they “rake the forest”, because he can’t grasp that wildfires are part of the North American ecosystem which have been exacerbated by human activity and climate change. > **[California wildfires: Finland bemused by Trump raking comment](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46256296)** > > The Finnish leader is not sure where Donald Trump got the idea that Finland rakes its forest floors. [https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/08/20/trump-blames-california-for-wildfires-tells-state-you-gotta-clean-your-floors-1311059](https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2020/08/20/trump-blames-california-for-wildfires-tells-state-you-gotta-clean-your-floors-1311059) ---
**Author:** ![billy-jack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@billy-jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billy-jack)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7254 "2026-07-17T22:53:10Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Dipstick doesn’t understand that he doesn’t charge Canada tariffs, he charges Americans for buying Canadian goods. And who in the fucking world rakes their forests? Maybe he thinks that forests are just big golf courses with lots of obstacles in the fairways. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7255 "2026-07-17T23:10:30Z")
Y’all remember the constitution? [Rip van Simplefelon doesn’t.](https://www.aol.com/articles/why-trump-calling-major-tv-152443000.html) > [@](#): > > President Donald Trump accused U.S. TV networks that opted not to broadcast his [election security speech](https://time.com/article/2026/07/17/trump-speech-elections-china-save-act-takeaways/) of being engaged in a “plot” and said they should lose their licenses. > > “In a rare move, NBC and ABC ‘Fake’ News have both said that they would not cover this speech. They knew what it was about,” Trump said during his [25-minute address](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jjHi2O5fBw&t=1239s) Thursday night. > > As he made a series of allegations about foreign interference in U.S. elections, Trump claimed the major TV networks “are part of a plot, they want to continue this fraud, for whatever reason.” > > Doubling down on his stance, he said: “Fraud like this should mean a revocation of their licenses.” > > The White House’s Rapid Response social media account also [lashed out at CNN](https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2077924286531043393)for opting against a live broadcast of the speech. I got a kick out of this bit. > [@](#): > > TV networks are not required to provide a live broadcast of Presidential speeches. Some have occasionally opted not to air addresses from former Presidents, including Joe Biden’s 2022 speech on [threats to democracy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/media/2022/09/02/biden-speech-network-coverage-independence-hall/). Somebody back then must have been clairvoyant, realizing we would have an object lesson soon enough in such a threat. [“Only the Best People”, example number 99 and a half.](https://www.aol.com/articles/man-violent-past-didn-t-194443000.html) > [@](#): > > Outrage over the [fatal shooting of an immigrant father](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-biddeford-maine-shooting-b3013920.html) in Maine intensified Friday after reports revealed the [violent past and serious mental health struggles](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ice-officer-maine-shooting-david-brouillette-b3016544.html) of the ICE officer who allegedly pulled the trigger. > > The ICE officer who allegedly killed 25-year-old Colombian national Johan Sebastián Durán Guerrero in Biddeford on Monday was identified by[The Associated Press](https://apnews.com/article/ice-david-brouillette-johan-guerrero-maine-shooting-dbc30d6d59e2a95fb470afc188e125c6)and _[Portland Press Herald](https://www.pressherald.com/2026/07/16/ice-agent-who-shot-man-in-biddeford-identified-as-former-maine-law-enforcement-officer/)_ as David Brouillette, 37. > > Maine Senator Angus King has said that Durán Guerrero was not subject to an arrest warrant and that ICE officers at the scene [weren’t wearing body cameras](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ice-shootings-maine-texas-body-cam-video-b3014966.html). Immigrant advocacy groups also said he had a Social Security number and was authorized to work in the U.S. > > Brouillette told an ex-wife, Ashley Brouillette, late last year that he was hired by ICE, but she didn’t believe him at the time because of his long history of psychiatric issues, Ashley Brouillette told the AP. > > In addition to mental health struggles that dated to his childhood, Ashley Brouillette and other family members claimed to AP that he had a history of violent behavior that included assaulting women and tossing boiling water at Ashley Brouillette as she held their daughter. That’s just the tip of the _ice_berg. Feel free to read the rest for more of his appalling behavior. [What do dick doctors think of the war criminal’s focus on other men’s balls?](https://www.aol.com/articles/urologists-think-military-testosterone-testing-162005000.html) > [@](#): > > U.S. Defense Secretary [Pete Hegseth](https://time.com/article/2026/06/18/hegseth-us-troops-europe-review-nato-allies-criticism-iran-war/) announced on Wednesday, July 15, that it is now mandatory for all service members age 30 and older to test their [testosterone](https://time.com/tag/testosterone/) levels every year. Younger service members have the option to get tested too. > > Hegseth said in a video titled "[The High T Department of War](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWjitRt7vOc)” that service members found to have “testosterone deficiency” could choose to receive [testosterone replacement therapy](https://time.com/3062889/manopause-aging-insecurity-and-the-2-billion-testosterone-industry/) (TRT). Hegseth said he had authorized the screenings to ensure that service members “have the right testosterone levels” to operate at their “absolute best.” > > “This initiative—it’s not about artificial enhancement, it’s about restoring and optimizing your natural capabilities, protecting your longevity, and ensuring you have the biological foundation required to sustain the fight,” Hegseth said in the video. > > He didn’t specify if [female](https://time.com/7259392/testosterone-therapy-women-benefits-risks/) service members would also be screened and have access to TRT. The Pentagon told TIME that it had no additional information to provide beyond Hegseth’s video and a department [statement](https://www.war.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/4546628/statement-by-chief-pentagon-spokesman-sean-parnell-on-enhanced-screening-protoc/) containing similar information. > > Doctors specializing in men’s health are divided as to whether people who don’t have symptoms of low testosterone should be tested for the condition. Many doctors also urge men to be cautious about taking TRT, which can stall sperm production and cause [infertility](https://time.com/5492615/male-infertility-taboo-society-shame/). > > “There’s no free lunch. There are side effects,” says Dr. Jeff Morrison, a urologist at the University of Colorado. “If you are interested in further fertility, then TRT is probably not a good option.” In short: he’s dicking it up. He’s stepping on his dick. He is a dick. [Guess who got helped my foreign election interference.](https://www.aol.com/articles/trump-declassified-docs-reveal-russia-153433000.html) > [@](#): > > The White House released a series of documents [Thursday evening](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-election-fraud-address-nbc-abc-licence-b3016842.html)promoting [President Donald Trump’](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-china-speech-election-interference-live-updates-b3016691.html)s assertion that U.S. elections are vulnerable, though at least one contains information the president has previously denied. > > Among the[trove of election integrity documents](https://www.whitehouse.gov/election-integrity/), released in tandem with the president’s speech, one National Intelligence Council assessment on “Foreign Threats to the 2020 Election” determined that Russian government-linked actors were trying to boost Trump’s campaign. > > The document insinuates that Russia seemingly preferred Trump and wanted to boost his campaign on social media while disparaging former President Joe Biden’s then-presidential campaign. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7256 "2026-07-17T23:36:54Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > Doctors specializing in men’s health are **divided** as to whether people who don’t have symptoms of low testosterone should be tested for the condition. Many doctors also urge men to be cautious about taking TRT, which can stall sperm production and cause [infertility](https://time.com/5492615/male-infertility-taboo-society-shame/). > > > > “There’s no free lunch. There are side effects,” says Dr. Jeff Morrison, a urologist at the University of Colorado. “If you are interested in further fertility, then TRT is probably not a good option.” My bold. “Divided”? You mean some doctors think this is a sensible idea?? I HATE these wimpy, weak-ass, equivocal reactions by actual medical doctors! They should be screaming, “ **THIS IDEA IS BATSHIT CRAZY!!** ” ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2026, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7257 "2026-07-17T23:54:02Z")
you forget that Mehmet Oz has an actual medical degree ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7258 "2026-07-18T00:23:55Z")
I posted a few days ago about him thinking that not using medical insurance is fraud, somehow, something. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7259 "2026-07-18T00:25:50Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > “Divided”? You mean some doctors think this is a sensible idea?? > > I HATE these wimpy, weak-ass, equivocal reactions by actual medical doctors! They should be screaming, “ **THIS IDEA IS BATSHIT CRAZY!!** ” Why do I imagine those partiular doctors are the surviving ones from those whom the tobacco industry hired? ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2026, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/7260 "2026-07-18T03:32:48Z")
It’s probably more like 998 doctors said “This is a terrible idea” and two writing-their-own-prescriptions-Adderall-addicts said “What was the question again?” and since the response was not unanimous the “fair and balanced” article has to report that opinions are divided. Sarcasm (sorta). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=362) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=364)