# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8301 "2026-08-27T17:44:51Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> The court ordered removal of his name in May. The announcement that the Center would be closed for two years for renovations was in March.

That vote was because nobody wanted to perform there and nobody was buying tickets because he slapped his name on it, fired the real board, and appointed himself chair. That killed it. The “we need to close it” was to avoid the embarrassment that everyone hated him taking control of it. “Those grapes were probably sour anyway” essentially.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8302 "2026-08-27T17:54:37Z")

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Whatever happened with the Gulf of Mexico? Is anyone actually calling it the Gulf of America these days, or did people just ignore the stupidity after the initial furore?

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8303 "2026-08-27T17:59:15Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> There it is, Folks. Update your maps!

Of all the things to promptly reverse once a future Democratic president takes office, these idiotic renamings would seem to be among the easiest.

> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Whatever happened with the Gulf of Mexico? Is anyone actually calling it the Gulf of America these days, or did people just ignore the stupidity after the initial furore?

It changed on Google Maps.

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**Author:** ![MonkeysBrother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ab097/32.png) [@MonkeysBrother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MonkeysBrother)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8304 "2026-08-27T18:03:24Z")

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A Canadian friend sent me a screenshot from a blog called Life in Canada. It’s a border map with Lake Erie relabeled as Lake Trumpsatwat.  
I’ll admit it made me laugh out loud.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8305 "2026-08-27T18:05:10Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> It changed on Google Maps.

Only on the American site. The civilized world does not recognize an order from the Moron-in-chief.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8306 "2026-08-27T18:09:05Z")

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Ahem.

[![Google Photos](https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/AP1GczO16MKTRcFE6lPkRm-q81i0MBsEy5kN3jeiI8LIscbBJuHrVH11NimDrpiSA9Pzie-mswCvkFK2mI2bNw_Eht3lgJn52lpRO2_05oyxehTF4nMiMnk=w600-h315-p-k "New photo · Thursday, Aug 27 📸") ](https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOuPtelruW2AFMdvorb5v91fvwA4xKO14L5OXZBGvGmrz-Rs6aUWLqLTHnsW4H8ow?key=N0JNckVnZThWc1NfMnhYV1BtWXBPdHVDVnVSX0xn)

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8307 "2026-08-27T18:33:01Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > [@robby](#):
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> > It changed on Google Maps.
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> Only on the American site. The civilized world does not recognize an order from the Moron-in-chief.

Good point…I should have clarified this.

It hasn’t changed on Wikipedia, at least. And per their entry for the [Gulf of Mexico](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico#Name):

> [@Wikipedia](#):
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> …In a January 2025 executive order, United States president Donald Trump directed federal agencies to rename the waters bounded by the U.S. to the “Gulf of America”. Some major online map services and several U.S.-based media outlets voluntarily adopted the change when serving U.S. users, but it also stoked controversy, with Mexican president Claudia Sheinbaum and others objecting to the declaration. A February 2025 poll by Marquette University found that among 1,018 respondents across the U.S., 71% opposed renaming the Gulf of Mexico and 29% supported the name change.

The American public also overwhelmingly opposes Trump’s trade war against Canada, and surely will not support this name change either.

> **[The bizarre roots of Trump’s trade war on Canada](https://www.vox.com/politics/500447/canada-trade-war-tariff-trump-obsession)**
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> I asked around, and nobody really wants this.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8308 "2026-08-27T18:41:23Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> > Only on the American site. The civilized world does not recognize an order from the Moron-in-chief.
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> Good point…I should have clarified this.

They haven’t caved on Lake Ontario… yet.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8309 "2026-08-27T18:58:44Z")

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We have too many threads about Chieftain Ineptstein the Orange Stain with No Brain, we had a brief discussion on Lake CIOSNB in the **[invading Panama and Greeland](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-now-wants-to-use-military-force-to-take-the-panama-canal-and-greenland/1012691/1148)** thread:

> [@Trump now wants to use military force to take the Panama Canal and Greenland](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/trump-now-wants-to-use-military-force-to-take-the-panama-canal-and-greenland/1012691/1148):
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> OK, if you go to Google Maps here in Germany, it is labeled Golf von Mexiko (Golf von Amerika). Golf von Mexiko comes first, Google is a US corporation, so they bow to Chieftain Ineptstein the Orange Stain in brackets: [[image] ](https://i.imgur.com/GFyCXpQ.png)

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8310 "2026-08-27T19:31:49Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Is anyone actually calling it the Gulf of America these days, or did people just ignore the stupidity after the initial furore?

Naturally, it’s used by default among US oil and gas companies, at least in-country. They certainly aren’t using the naming in their offices in Mexico.

So, yes, it’s widely used. But many people end up forgetting regularly. I have, so far, not used that naming once at work.

For example, the use of Persian vs Arabian Gulf is something companies have to be very careful about. So, this isn’t a new thing but it is a particularly dumb example of it. It was never controversial to call it the Gulf of Mexico in the US ever.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8311 "2026-08-27T19:39:31Z")

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> [@Dr.Drake](#):
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> Whatever happened with the Gulf of Mexico? Is anyone actually calling it the Gulf of America these days, or did people just ignore the stupidity after the initial furore?

On my bike commute to work, I pass a house that has a gigantic “Gulf of America” flag out front. I can safely assume the house is occupied by maroons.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8312 "2026-08-27T19:50:20Z")

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Please tell me that you live somewhere near the gulf. I mean, it’s still a moronic thing to do, but if you live in, say, Ohio, that’s extra levels of delusion.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8313 "2026-08-27T19:56:46Z")

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Oh, OH!! I know this one!!

Idaho!!

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8314 "2026-08-27T20:03:39Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> the use of Persian vs Arabian Gulf is something companies have to be very careful about.

Don’t you mean the Gulf of Trump?

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8315 "2026-08-27T20:47:39Z")

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That’s what I said, yes

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8316 "2026-08-27T20:49:34Z")

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done with being nice

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/6SUAdxU9CDE/maxresdefault.jpg "Canadian Resistance Army - Trade War (Official Music Video)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SUAdxU9CDE)

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**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8317 "2026-08-27T21:09:09Z")

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We could make this a game. Which executive order renaming things do you think Trump will sign next?

1. Changing Lake Superior to Lake Trump
2. Changing Mt. Ranier to Mt. Trump
3. Changing the White House to the Trump House
4. Changing Washington D.C. to Trump D.C.
5. Changing Florida to Trumpland
6. Changing the United States of America to the United States of Trump

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8318 "2026-08-27T21:17:36Z")

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> [@Toxgoddess](#):
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> 1. Changing the United States of America to the United States of Trump

You mean the Trumpnited Trumps of Atrumpitrump.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8319 "2026-08-27T21:22:36Z")

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“North Carolina is great. I won at golf three times.”

> <https://x.com/Acyn/status/2093030069858173196>

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2026, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8320 "2026-08-27T21:25:46Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> Ahem.

Shouldn’t that lake’s name have _TYFYATTM_ at the end?

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