# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8541 "2026-09-05T14:46:03Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> ETA: Stop calling them gold coins when they are not, it just strokes his ego. Brass tokens. Tinsel tokens. Lametta tokens.

He’s not the first to claim (or at least strongly suggest) they’re actual gold. These are made of the same stuff that $1 coins have been made of since about 2000 (or whenever the Sacagawea dollar was first issued). I believe the manganese modifies the copper to a golden color, rather than the usual red of the copper penny. But if you find one in circulation, it’s usually going to be brown, just like pennies that have circulated for a while. I assume that’s oxidation.

There used to be ads in newspapers trying to sell golden dollar coins for more than face value. One I remember in particular was a roll of 50 coins where the rolling material was clear plastic. They first sold those for $98, but later upped that to $120-something. The ad copy strongly hinted these were made of gold, but never came right out and said that.

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8542 "2026-09-05T14:59:45Z")

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Well, you can’t, can you?  
And those tokens are not investment vehicles for savvy international investors anyway. They are just small change to fleece the usual rubes. Losers gotta lose, it’s what they were born for (ask the Orange Stain if you don’t believe me). I wouldn’t worry too much the stability of the currency in the context of the legality of spending those overpriced chips. The buyers didn’t buy them for 2.44$ each to spend them. They are worshipping collectors, let them keep the shiny toy tin disks.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8543 "2026-09-05T16:11:15Z")

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I wonder if he’s getting any licensing fees for his image on the coin.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8544 "2026-09-05T16:24:39Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> I don’t think Chieftain Ineptstein wants to make his coins the standard 1$ payment vehicle, he wants people to collect them and to worship his image on them.

“Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

Sorry, don’t know why that quote popped into my head all of a sudden…

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8545 "2026-09-05T16:57:35Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> I live in Texas. Can you guess what makes **me** throw up?

Screwworms?

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**Author:** ![fachverwirrt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@fachverwirrt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fachverwirrt)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8546 "2026-09-05T18:30:29Z")

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> [@Spoons](#):
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> Not being in the USA, I can deface them without penalty, should I run across one. I’m thinking it will make a nice target for rifle practice.

There’s nothing illegal about defacing coins in the US as long as you’re not doing so fraudulently.

You can deface paper money too, as long as you’re not making it “unfit to be reissued”. So if he ever puts his mug on a dollar bill instead of a coin, you can draw dicks on his face all you want.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8547 "2026-09-05T18:38:38Z")

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Trump pushes about his support for Israel - to the Satmar rebbe, who doesn’t believe the state of Israel shouldn’t exist until the Messiah comes.

> **[Trump gushes about Israel to rabbis whose entire creed denies it should exist](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-israel-2677822798/)**
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> President Donald Trump welcomed six rabbis to the Oval Office and touted his support for Israel despite their coming from an anti-Zionist sect.A Friday piece for Judge Street Journal noted that Trump brought together Hasidic leaders from New York,...

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**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8548 "2026-09-05T18:56:55Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> The buyers didn’t buy them for 2.44$ each to spend them. They are worshipping collectors, let them keep the shiny toy tin disks.

I’m wondering how many collectors actually bought them. I imagine a lot of them were sold to MAGA PACs (Political Action Committees). They also buy books in bulk by Republicans so they can get on a best seller list (and get some tax break I’m sure). These become give-a-ways for donors, until they end up in a Dollar Tree. I’ll bet the same thing is happening with these coins.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8549 "2026-09-05T19:07:08Z")

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> [@fachverwirrt](#):
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> So if he ever puts his mug on a dollar bill instead of a coin, you can draw dicks on his face all you want.

The coin comes with a dick on his face pre-installed. Look at the nose.

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**Author:** ![ricepad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b38774/32.png) [@ricepad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ricepad)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8550 "2026-09-05T19:10:45Z")

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Are those coins actually legal tender? Can you buy stuff with them, or are you just another sucker holding the bag?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8551 "2026-09-05T19:20:48Z")

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> [@ricepad](#):
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> Are those coins actually legal tender?

Yes. If something has some denomination stamped on it and is released by the US government, it is legal tender at that amount. (If it has some denomination stamped on it and is released by a third party, it is counterfeit money and very illegal.)

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8552 "2026-09-05T19:37:28Z")

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Trump is suddenly looking very different today.

[![](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/bafkreid2pddecajci4nkbof66mc34ndji6uaa2fuwai6zpqlqopj2dqbfq) ](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/bafkreid2pddecajci4nkbof66mc34ndji6uaa2fuwai6zpqlqopj2dqbfq)

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8553 "2026-09-05T19:40:19Z")

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His shirt can hardly contain his neck. What a fancy dresser. A cosmopolitan gentleman.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8554 "2026-09-05T19:44:04Z")

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That rug isn’t doing him any favors.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8555 "2026-09-05T19:48:28Z")

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It gets an oil change every 3,000 lies.

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**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8556 "2026-09-05T19:56:58Z")

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The coins may be legal tender, but they were minted in clear violation of federal law.

Federal law ([**31 USC 5114**](https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title31-section5114&num=0&edition=prelim)) unequivocally states: “Only the portrait of a deceased individual may appear on United States currency and securities.”

(And yes, coins are legal tender and are considered to be [currency](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Currency).)

This law has not been repealed and is still in effect. Trump is breaking the law yet again.

> **[U.S. Mint Begins Selling Trump $1 Coins. Are They Legal?](https://time.com/article/2026/09/02/trump-1-gold-coins-go-on-sale/)**
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> Trump is the first sitting president in a century to appear on a U.S. coin, reviving questions about whether the practice is legal.

Scott Bessent has tried to obfuscate the issue by pointing to a commemorative coin issued over a century ago that featured Calvin Coolidge, but Congress passed a law then specifically allowing it (which was also controversial at the time). The current Congress has _not_ authorized an exception for the Trump coin.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8557 "2026-09-05T20:04:36Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> You know, for kids.

Yeah yeah, sure sure.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8558 "2026-09-05T20:44:00Z")

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> [@robby](#):
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> The current Congress has _not_ authorized an exception for the Trump coin.

Oh, are we still pretending Congress is relevant to government?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8559 "2026-09-05T22:28:21Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> A cosmopolitan gentleman.

[Distinguished](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/look-at-this-distinguished-gentleman), even.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2026, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/8560 "2026-09-05T22:32:51Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> and that all his Cabinet members and staff are to be entombed alive with him to serve him in the afterlife

Well, finally something I think we can all agree with him about…

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