# The Trump Administration: The Clusterfuck Continues (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [December 1, 2025, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298 "2025-12-01T20:32:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 50
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/981 "2025-12-24T13:35:24Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Donald Trump says if people are nice enough about it, he might abandon his scandal-plagued second stint at the White House for a return to his glory days as a star of the small screen. I’m sure an entertaining reality show could be presented about life in prison… ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/982 "2025-12-24T13:46:05Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I’m sure an entertaining reality show could be presented about life in prison… I hope his life in prison is a rusted out RV on a bombing range in Nevada. “Don’t hit it, just get close” ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/983 "2025-12-24T14:38:30Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > > “If really good, would you like me to leave the presidency in order to make ‘hosting’ a full time job?” he added. I think he may have found the one thing that would make me consider lavishing him with fulsome praise. If, that is, I thought for even one second that he’d hold up his end of the deal. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/984 "2025-12-24T14:53:28Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > If, that is, I thought for even one second that he’d hold up his end of the deal. Well, he never has… so there’s that. Cf. Lucy, football. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/985 "2025-12-24T16:02:24Z")
Marco Rubio, representing trump while trying to sink as low as him, has banned several Europeans from entering the USA because they said something they don’t like, which, according to him is (drummroll…) censorship! [Link in Spanish.](https://www.eldiario.es/internacional/trump-prohibe-ciudadanos-europeos-viajar-eeuu-discursos-odio-internet-cruzada-ideologica-ue_1_12869019.html) Includes Rubio’s Xitter bullshit and some replies from the affected parties, including Thierry Breton’s. > Donald Trump continues to coerce Europe in his particular culture war and in defence of large technology corporations. US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has announced a ban on five European citizens entering the country for ‘coercing US platforms to censor, demonetise and suppress American opinions with which they disagree’. > Among those sanctioned is former European Internal Market Commissioner Thierry Breton, who was the driving force behind regulations to limit disinformation on platforms such as X, Meta and TikTok, according to a senior State Department official who spoke to the press. Also sanctioned were Clare Melford, co-founder of the Global Disinformation Index; British activist Imran Ahmed, executive director of the Centre for Countering Digital Hate; and Josephine Ballon and Anna-Lena von Hodenberg, heads of the German NGO HateAid. Rubio. Fuck him. Even his name is a lie. He is not blond. He is not even **[Blondi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blondi)**. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/986 "2025-12-24T16:58:41Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > Rubio. Fuck him. Even his name is a lie. He is not blond. He is not even **[Blondi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blondi)**. Nope. Rubio is a lapdog, though. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/987 "2025-12-24T17:55:25Z")
Not that any of those interdicted persons would be inclined to enter this country in any case. Not with this regime running things. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/988 "2025-12-24T20:31:36Z")
If he really has taken a cognitive test, and the doctor (I seem to recall him saying he was the same as Obama) saw his squashed, wrongly numerical clock drawing and he couldn’t recall any of the words (IMO these are the hardest parts and most indicative of a problem) is he obligated to inform the Vice President and/or SoS? Even if they ask? Does doctor/patient confidentiality rule over all? Especially given how trump pivots from vipers in Peru to how he astounded his doctor with his cognitive test? I mean, if he scores 30/30 that is what is expected. Even If for extra-credit he recited π to 100 digits it’s 30 or you fail and ought not be lying about the results. What the VP and SoS do with that information is at their peril. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/989 "2025-12-24T20:56:29Z")
> [@Coriolanus](#): > > If he really has taken a cognitive test, and the doctor (I seem to recall him saying he was the same as Obama) saw his squashed, wrongly numerical clock drawing and he couldn’t recall any of the words (IMO these are the hardest parts and most indicative of a problem) is he obligated to inform the Vice President and/or SoS? That issue is already under discussion. [https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB11347](https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB11347) Not about the stable genius though, who is the healthiest person in the history of the world. Essentially, no, the doctor is not only not obligated to, but is not even allowed to disclose such things, though Congress wants to change that. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/990 "2025-12-24T20:59:07Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > How does someone write a “fake opinion” ? Writing something you don’t actually believe. As is typical of the Right, it’s Trump accusing other people of doing what he and the people around him do. A man who punishes anyone who speaks the truth to him is not exactly a stranger to fake opinions…in fact, he _demands_ them. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/991 "2025-12-24T21:15:34Z")
If he is going to assert he scored perfectly, I still want to see him draw the clock at a rally, and let the MAGA’s shout out the time he should do. He won’t of course. Such a suggestion can only come from lefty wraiths. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/992 "2025-12-24T21:17:18Z")
I suspect the ongoing tests are not at Trump’s request. Some persons are concerned enough to track his decline, and they are careful to frame the tests as measures of his cognitive strength, tests that he “aces” regardless of the results. That’s the only way they get him to continue. So, my suspicion is the tests are anything but private. They’re conducted as matters of national security, and whatever mechanism they need to get the results to those who need them (e.g., Trump is duped into allowing the sharing), that’s what they do. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/993 "2025-12-24T21:26:15Z")
Sure, yet he ought not be able to get away with asserting how he performed more than perfect. Prove it. White board, draw a circle and fill in the numbers. If the clock is approximately round and the 3, 6, 9 and 12 are in the proper place, great so far! Wow, Mr. President, no one has ever drawn a clock face before! Then correctly draw in a random, MAGA chosen time, and let the crowd see your result. If I ask you to bring an unopened deck of cards and say I can pick out all four aces after you shuffle as much as you want, and I hand you four aces, that would be on the level of what he is claiming. ---
**Author:** ![Stratocaster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stratocaster/32/16393_2.png) [@Stratocaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stratocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/994 "2025-12-24T21:33:53Z")
Again, just my speculation, but I think the moment he realizes these are to gauge cognitive decline, the tests are over. But if they play to his ego and limitless need for praise, he keeps taking the tests. That, of course, creates the situation where he brags to the press about his tremendous test results, which I’m sure his handlers would prefer he didn’t. But they’re between a rock and a hard place. The only way they get him to continue is to play to his ego, and that means there’s zero chance he won’t brag about how awesome he is. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/995 "2025-12-24T21:37:29Z")
Well put. I totally agree. It’s not quite proven, yet there are clearly times when he’s not there, so it’s valid speculation. And he knows how to game it. Fake and Perfect are his favorite words. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/996 "2025-12-24T22:24:42Z")
My wife’s sisters (four) all married doctors. I asked informally what the ongoing MRIs and cognitive tests were for. 3/4 came back with the standard 'not my patient, no knowledge of the patient’s history, bad to make an uninformed opinion). So I asked a more hypothetical question, ‘If you did this, what would be the reason?’. More heming and hawing about not my speciality but they would be tracking a progressive condition that manifests with cognitive decline. What about the other doctor? Allen said Trump was Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Of course, Allen is a dentist, DDS. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/997 "2025-12-24T23:19:44Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Of course, Allen is a dentist, DDS. I reckon there are several classes in cereal and each mascot marketing campaign. (kidding) > With a beaming smile on his face, President Trump proudly said he had aced the cereal mascot questions. “I got Tony the Tiger! Who does not love Frosted Flakes here?”\ ***wild MAGA cheers**. > I knew the Lucky Charms Elf, or I mean Leopard. err Leprechaun." He cocks his head. “Yet not his name. My mother’s from Scotland, yet I do not think the Luckycharm has a name. I aced the Krispies, you know the Rice and Krispies? I got all of their names: Fizz, Snap and Sizzle.” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/998 "2025-12-24T23:36:19Z")
Trump not really doing his best to beat those pedophile accusations. > Trump participated in the NORAD Santa Tracker phone calls on Christmas Eve from Mar-a-Lago, taking calls from children across the country. The president’s comments during one interaction raised the eyebrows of several political analysts and observers. > > During one call, a child asked Trump how he was doing. The president replied, “I’m doing fine,” before making a questionable comment. > > “You sound so beautiful and cute,” Trump said. “How old are you?” > > “I am eight,” the caller said. > **['Just can't help himself': Internet erupts over Trump's strange Christmas Eve...](https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2674828350/)** > > President Donald Trump made some strange comments as he took phone calls from his southern Florida abode, Mar-a-Lago, during a Christmas celebration on Wednesday. Trump participated in the NORAD Santa Tracker phone calls on Christmas Eve from... ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/999 "2025-12-24T23:48:42Z")
Aid, just off the phone with Vance who said, > “Get him away! Tell him one of our Submarines is missing tonight! No forget that! Tell him Vladimir Putin wishes to speak to him on the pink phone, located in the outside lobby!” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2025, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298/1000 "2025-12-25T00:29:38Z")
“We want to make sure that Santa is being good. We want to make sure that he’s not infiltrated, that we’re not infiltrating into our country a bad Santa.” > **[Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social)](https://bsky.app/profile/acyn.bsky.social/post/3marax5boke26)** > > Trump: We track Santa. We want to make sure that Santa is being good. We want to make sure that he's not infiltrated, that we're not infiltrating into our country a bad Santa. Santa loves Oklahoma like I do. You know, Oklahoma was very good to me in... [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=49) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-trump-administration-the-clusterfuck-continues-part-2/1025298.md?page=51)